If you meet this guy, I guess you should just call a congressman and they will sing kumbaya to you.
Posted on 05/25/2006 3:44:46 PM PDT by no dems
I heard this on Sean Hannity's Fox Radio broadcast a short while ago and just now on "Lou Dobbs Tonight" on CNN:
Arlen Specter, according to Congressman John Kyl of Arizona, slipped a provision into the Immigration Bill the Senate passed today requiring the U.S. to consult with Mexico BEFORE building a wall in any area along the border.
Thank you President Bush and Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA) for campaigning so hard for Specter in the '04 GOP primary in PA, saving his butt and giving him 6 more years in Washington to continue on his course to destroy this great Republic. We are so indebted to you.
(Tongue in cheek)
This piece of crap bill better not pass the House!
Im sure this is a mistake. He would never do this.
I've never thought Arlen Specter can't stoop any lower...
I just e-mailed my congresscritter to tell him to oppose it.
Seems like a bad move for the liberals...I can't imagine this bill going anywhere with the House with that little amendment added...
It was Chris Dodd's amendment, actually
Veto the bill and start over!
He appeared happy when he introduced the bill. I could not believe my ears and eyes -- and it passed and is now part of the passed bill.
whatever happened to Arlen's beloved "separation of powers?'..imagine...the Congress telling the Executive what to do..
It won't pass the House.
More interesting, it gives us an insight into the overclass' minds. They share more identity with the Mexican overclass than Americans.
t was Spector's package (a bunch of amendments from both sides)
BUT Dodds Amendment
http://cboldt.blogspot.com/
UPDATE @ 17:23 - Found it. Senator Dodd's S.Amdt.4089 contains the following language:
(b) CONSULTATION REQUIREMENT.--Consultations between United States and Mexican authorities at the federal, state, and local levels concerning the construction of additional fencing and related border security structures along the United States-Mexico border shall be undertaken prior to commencing any new construction, in order to solicit the views of affected communities, lessen tensions and foster greater understanding and stronger cooperation on this and other important issues of mutual concern.
30 posted on 05/25/2006 6:29:24 PM EDT by Mo1
If you meet this guy, I guess you should just call a congressman and they will sing kumbaya to you.
Full amnesty and no border security. Wasn't that Bush's plan all along?
You wanna guess how many Mexicans will cross the border within the next couple of days/weeks after the Mexican media publicizes the US amnesty?
Check his freezer for frozen pesos!!!
I saw that too. This is Specter's last term so he doesn't care. I can't say what I'd like to see happen to him because it would get me banned, but suffice to say that he is one of the biggest POS Senators in DC!
It will when Rove and Bush apply appropriate pressure
I would like to know what meds or smokes our senators are using now. These people have departed into the Land of Oz.
Don't forget that Rush Limbaugh had a love fest on the air with Specter as well.
It's not a mistake. He did it.
Specter should be the first RINO rat to be defeated.
The better question is...."Whatever happened to Arlen's brain?"
Folks, this is not so bad. It depends on how the administration interprets the word "consults". I would have expected any administration to consult with Mexico before building significant sections of wall. It is part of being a good neighbor, whether they are or not.
Remember that "consult" does NOT mean "ask for permission". For instance, a good parent always "consults" with their children before they are spanked.
"It was Chris Dodd's amendment, actually..."
Then Congressman Kyl needs to make a retraction and clear the air.
They should put Specter into a cannon and shoot him across the border into Mexico (the way the Russians did with the false Dmitri).
I hope this is tongue in cheek!
I have always detested Specter, and wish he would get voted out believe me. Mr. Magic Bullet is the one republican I still couldn't stand once I changed parties. He might as well just become a rat and be done with it. Actually, I think he is one along with McCain. (moles)
"I think Dodd did this... recheck your facts."
FACT: I reported what I heard on two credible broadcasts. I did not take a nap and dream it.
If it's incorrect then John Kyl, Sean and Lou need to check the facts. What I reported was "fact"; that was what they said.
John Kyl is not congressman. He is Arizona's only good conservative senator.
Not to me and maybe not to you but what will it mean to the first federal judge to hear "the fence suit?"
"...a good parent always "consults" with their children before they are spanked."
Gee, do parents still do that these days?
I'm calling Childrens' Protective Services right now!!!
(Sarc.)
""Remember that "consult" does NOT mean "ask for permission". For instance, a good parent always "consults" with their children before they are spanked.""
Do you consult your neighbor first?
The "consult" provision gives Bush a photo op meeting with Fox where Fox, with Bush's support, appeals to liberal guilt, MSM follows the line, some sheeple follow.
Bush and Fox and their elites will not be satisfied until there are no wage disparties on either side of the border.
R O T F L M A O
Actually, you are probably right on this one, Shermy. Part of diplomacy is "playing nice" even when you're just steam rolling them.
It won't.
It was Spector's package (a bunch of amendments from both sides)
BUT Dodds Amendment
http://cboldt.blogspot.com/
UPDATE @ 17:23 - Found it. Senator Dodd's S.Amdt.4089 contains the following language:
(b) CONSULTATION REQUIREMENT.--Consultations between United States and Mexican authorities at the federal, state, and local levels concerning the construction of additional fencing and related border security structures along the United States-Mexico border shall be undertaken prior to commencing any new construction, in order to solicit the views of affected communities, lessen tensions and foster greater understanding and stronger cooperation on this and other important issues of mutual concern.
Why do you get so upset over any language about a wall? The senate has solved our illegal invasion problem by making all our illegals legal, inviting their relatives to come in and making sure many millions more can come in legally.
In short, the senate will now let everyone in thru the front door, so we don't need a wall anyway.
"Veto the bill and start over!"
George Bush hasn't vetoes a bill in six years and he's not likely to start with this one. In fact, he's in agreement.
Our only chance is in the House.
Alzheimer's?
I'd probably give the Mexican gov a heads up on basic info, however; I would not make it law.
Gotta wait until 2010 for that. Further comments might get me banned.
ping
Did I consult my neighbor first?
For the last fence that I built, I did. I was expecting that the neighbors might be willing to split the cost. They would not and they did not want the much older Cedar fence replaced with block. I built it anyway and gave them a vote on the color and treatment of the block on their side. Soon after it went up, the husband came over with a some cash, which represented good faith on their part.
"Good fences make good neighbors." -- Robert Frost
I am confused - who thinks Spector can't sink any lower?
Bush wants secure borders with Iraqs neighbors.And democracy and the rule of law to prevail. Thats great George.But have you given any thought to what your doing to America ?
When Lou Dobbs reported this last minute provision, (that we must consult Mexico before erecting any fence on OUR side of the border!) he was said he was "breathless" at this willful surrender of American sovereignty.
He also said that he was astonished that the Senate could be so utterly oblivious and contemptuous of the views of the American public which overwhelmingly demands border security FIRST.
Our only hope is that House won't compromise too much. If any havn't done it, it's time to call and write your representative.
Also, for those who missed Lou tonight, I suggest you go to LouDobbs.com to see the full transcript -- it has much more about this disastrous amnesty bill that will be guaranteed to appall you! But perhaps we FReepers are no longer capable of being shocked by Bush and this Senate.
I would have thought he would require the U.S. to consult with the Scots. Hard to keep up with the old fool, isn't it?
Thanks GWB and Ricky Santorum. We could have possibly been rid of this senile old goat........But you know the 11th commandment...go with the incumbent(R)....
Feh!
FMCDH(BITS)
It most certainly does. Consult=permission, that's what it means for the Nature Conservancy, the ACLU and every other liberal organization. Speaking of the NC, wait until you figure out their plans for MN, WI, MI, NY, and OH.
The funny thing is, when the GOP takes the sucker bet and is voted out of power this Nov, Speaker Pelousy and Senate President Reid is going to impeach and throw this whole miserable bunch into prison anyway. Jorge Dos, for all his efforts to suck up, will be the first impeached president actually removed. Start the tiny violins.
Cellmates of Skilling, indeed.
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