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Search for Jimmy Hoffa slows as digging begins
Reuters ^ | Fri May 26 | Rebecca Cook

Posted on 05/26/2006 11:27:48 AM PDT by 300magnum

MILFORD TOWNSHIP, Michigan (Reuters) - FBI teams on Thursday sifted by hand through dirt from a chest-deep hole in the ground in an intense search for the body of labor leader Jimmy Hoffa three decades after his disappearance.

Wearing Evidence Response Team T-shirts and hard hats, FBI agents directed a work crew that used heavy equipment to rip up the concrete floor of a horse farm barn demolished a day earlier.

Investigators then worked by hand to sort through soil under the foundation of the barn and could be seen photographing and videotaping potential evidence around a hole marked off with yellow crime scene tape.

Orange work cones marked what had been the perimeter of the barn on the Hidden Dreams Farm near Detroit.

The investigation was triggered by a tip from Donovan Wells, 75, a federal prisoner serving time for marijuana trafficking who lived on the farm at the time of Hoffa's disappearance.

A former lawyer said Wells offered the information to the FBI 30 years ago. Now, he has offered it again in hopes of securing a reduced sentence.

The farm was previously owned by Hoffa associate Rolland McMaster. It is about 20 miles 32 km from where the legendary Teamsters union boss disappeared on July 30, 1975.

No trace of Hoffa has ever been found, and no one has been charged in the case.

Wells, who has reportedly passed a polygraph test, told his lawyers that he saw men burying what appeared to be a body with a backhoe on the farm a day after Hoffa vanished.

Hoffa was last seen outside a Detroit-area restaurant where he was to meet New Jersey Teamsters' boss Anthony "Tony Pro" Provenzano, a member of the Genovese crime family, and a local Mafia captain, Anthony "Tony Jack" Giacalone. He had called his wife to say no one else had shown up for the meeting.

He disappeared just as he was to embark on a campaign to get reelected to his post as president of the Teamsters sparked a nationwide investigation.

Hoffa was declared dead in 1982, and numerous books about his life have pinned his disappearance on mobsters who murdered him because they did not want him interfering with their close ties to the union.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drugskilledbelushi; hoffa; jimmyhoffa

1 posted on 05/26/2006 11:27:50 AM PDT by 300magnum
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To: 300magnum

Jimmy Hoffa - union leader - organized crime - why do they always go together?


2 posted on 05/26/2006 11:29:46 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: 300magnum
Orange work cones marked what had been the perimeter of the barn on the Hidden Dreams Farm near Detroit.

--chortle--

3 posted on 05/26/2006 11:30:00 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: 300magnum

One question that crosses my mind - if there's no sign of Hoffa or any other criminal activity, who pays to rebuild the barn?


4 posted on 05/26/2006 11:30:45 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 300magnum

Tommy DeVito: Hey Henry, Henry, hurry up will you? My mother's gonna make some fried peppers and sausage for us. Oh hey, Henry, Henry. Here's an arm.
Henry Hill: Very funny, guys.
Tommy DeVito: Hey, here's a leg. Here's a wing.
[He laughs]
Tommy DeVito: Hey, what do you like, the leg or the wing, Henry? Or do you still go for the old hearts and lungs?


5 posted on 05/26/2006 11:30:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: 300magnum

I'd be curious to see how they will reimburse the current owners of the farm. This appeared to be a neat, well kept barn.


6 posted on 05/26/2006 11:31:38 AM PDT by cjshapi
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To: 300magnum

We dig for dead corrupt union bosses and let millions of illegals flod across the border.............[HIJACK]........


7 posted on 05/26/2006 11:31:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: 300magnum
Orange work cones marked what had been the perimeter of the barn on the Hidden Dreams Corpse Farm near Detroit.
8 posted on 05/26/2006 11:32:08 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: 300magnum

The farm they are digging at is just across the street from the GM proving grounds main entrance. I grew up at the bottom of the hill on Kensington Rd, I use to hunt deer in the gravel pit about 2 blocks down from this barn. Kind of funny they would bury him just across from the proving grounds filled with his workers...


9 posted on 05/26/2006 11:33:50 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: Red Badger
We dig for dead corrupt union bosses and let millions of illegals flod across the border.

Exactly. At this late date, are there that many suspects not in nursing homes or dead? Wasting tax dollars on instead of using it for something that's needed.

10 posted on 05/26/2006 11:36:16 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: DuncanWaring

you and i.


11 posted on 05/26/2006 11:37:42 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Texas Longhorns === National Champions)
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To: mtbopfuyn

Isn't it fun to hi-jack a thread?..........


12 posted on 05/26/2006 11:38:29 AM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: Red Badger

*****Isn't it fun to hi-jack a thread?..........*****

Armed with nothing but a keyboard...


13 posted on 05/26/2006 11:39:32 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Texas Longhorns === National Champions)
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To: DuncanWaring; All
One question that crosses my mind - if there's no sign of Hoffa or any other criminal activity, who pays to rebuild the barn?

Good question. My wife and I asked the same thing last night. Any FReepers know?

14 posted on 05/26/2006 11:40:53 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunnion.)
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To: 300magnum

As a contractor, I wonder how much excess money is being spent above what this should really cost.

Do you think they assigned one or two agents to lead , a couple of experts to over view the search methods, a couple of local cops for security?

More likely they have a huge expensive mob there, yet at this stage they don't even know if they'll find anything.


15 posted on 05/26/2006 11:43:09 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: 300magnum

Wouldn't it have been cheaper and less manhours to rent one of those machines that move over ground and outline anything buried underground like bodies?


16 posted on 05/26/2006 11:43:36 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: 300magnum

The bar closed and the drunk decided to take a short-cut through the cemetery since he was sure his wife was tapping her foot & watching the clock. It was late fall and getting dark early. The moon was behind a cloud and it was darker out than a woodchuck's a**-hole.
He fell face-first into an freshly dug grave and broke his leg, but managed to prop himself on an elbow then started yelling for help.
Another fellow who had also helped close the bar, but hadstopped to `drain his lizard', having had a beer (or eight) and some shooters, heard the cries for help and slowly staggered over to the grave.
Since the moon had come out, the guy in the grave saw the other man's head looking down, and he cried out,

"You gotta (hic) help me, buddy. I'm freezing my tail off down here!"

And the other man thought about it, then replied:
"Well it's no wonder. You ain't got no dirt on you."


17 posted on 05/26/2006 11:43:38 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Red Badger

Quit jacking threads....ya hoodlum. ;-)


18 posted on 05/26/2006 11:43:39 AM PDT by 300magnum (We know that if evil is not confronted, it gains in strength and audacity, and returns to strike us)
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To: DuncanWaring

One question that crosses my mind - if there's no sign of Hoffa - or like the WMD, they never existed!


19 posted on 05/26/2006 11:44:49 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: DuncanWaring
One question that crosses my mind - if there's no sign of Hoffa or any other criminal activity, who pays to rebuild the barn?

My question, too. They are really trashing that property on what seems to be thin evidence. The owners had to move their animals elsewhere. Lots of cost to them.

20 posted on 05/26/2006 11:45:23 AM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Abathar

Perhaps they wanted to keep him close to the pulse of the union.


21 posted on 05/26/2006 11:46:05 AM PDT by rod1
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To: 300magnum
A former lawyer said Wells offered the information to the FBI 30 years ago. Now, he has offered it again in hopes of securing a reduced sentence.

Hmmmm . . . doesn't sound very encouraging.

22 posted on 05/26/2006 11:46:09 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Abathar; beaversmom

When we lived in the Detroit area we ate at the restaurant where he was last seen. I think at that time it was the "Red Fox" or something? It has changed a few times since he was there I know. And it may be gone by now. Can you remember the place Abathar?


23 posted on 05/26/2006 11:46:45 AM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: 300magnum

I remember once on Monday Night Football the guest in the booth, Rudy Guiliani, was asked if it was true that Hoffa was buired under one of the goalposts at the Meadowlands. Rudy said he thought there was a "little bit of Jimmy everywhere" - heh


24 posted on 05/26/2006 11:46:47 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: beltfed308
One question that crosses my mind - if there's no sign of Hoffa or any other criminal activity, who pays to rebuild the barn? Good question. My wife and I asked the same thing last night. Any FReepers know?

It will be rebuilt at taxpayer expense using union labor and with all building materials delivered by teamsters local 702.

25 posted on 05/26/2006 11:47:02 AM PDT by OSHA (Chuck Norris sends Karl Rove Christmas cards.)
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To: 300magnum

Tony's gonna get mad.............


26 posted on 05/26/2006 11:47:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: frogjerk

Kinda like Frenchmen and white flags.


27 posted on 05/26/2006 11:48:17 AM PDT by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: Wolfstar
My question, too. They are really trashing that property on what seems to be thin evidence. The owners had to move their animals elsewhere. Lots of cost to them.

Of course, if they do find Hoffa here they can probably make some money on tourists. Perhaps they have been promised a bigger and better barn once all this is done.

28 posted on 05/26/2006 11:49:24 AM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: 300magnum
JIMMY HOFFA NEVER EXISTED! Just like WMD's! Can't find em, then it never existed.
29 posted on 05/26/2006 11:49:29 AM PDT by Bommer (Attention illegals: Why don't you do the jobs we can't do? Like fix your own countries problems!)
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To: 300magnum

No thread hijacking? Then I guess you don't want me to mention, The Da Vinci Code, The Methodists, The Masons, The WOD, American Idol, Catholic Priests and their altar boys, ANWR, etc..................?


30 posted on 05/26/2006 11:50:01 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: 300magnum

Sounds the guy wanted to tear down his barn and replace it with a swimming pool and rather than hire illegals to do the job he found an even cheaper labor source! ;-)


31 posted on 05/26/2006 11:50:30 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: 2banana
Jimmy Hoffa - union leader - organized crime - why do they always go together?

Could it be because they were?

32 posted on 05/26/2006 11:53:03 AM PDT by Protagoras ("A real decision is measured by the fact that you have taken a new action"... Tony Robbins)
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To: 300magnum

Oh no, he's dead. After 30 years. Who woulda thought...


33 posted on 05/26/2006 11:54:28 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: 300magnum

Next thing you know we'll hear they've called in a crack archeology team from Egypt to help out.


34 posted on 05/26/2006 11:58:04 AM PDT by GnuHere
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To: TXBubba

Yes, it was the Red Fox or Fox Run (I'm getting old...) on Telegraph rd, and I have eaten there with my parents. It had such notoriety that business was great, I still remember my grandfather and father laughing about how much it increased their business for years afterword.


35 posted on 05/26/2006 12:00:22 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: Abathar

That's the place. It was remodeled not long before we moved. No more dark wood etc. They changed to a bright floral design. Kind of removed the "image" I thought.


36 posted on 05/26/2006 12:09:14 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: GnuHere

Crack archaeology teams from egypt are often from Ann Arbor...


37 posted on 05/26/2006 12:13:00 PM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: TXBubba

Macchus Red Fox Restaurant is where Jimmy disappeared on July 30, 1975. Yes, it was on Telegraph. It's now called Andiamo. 6676 Telegraph Road Bloomfield Hills.

The Feds will rebuild/repair everything--at taxpayers expense. Even if they find something, it will prove nothing.

The good old days of 'Chucky' O'Brien, Tony 'Jack' Giacolone, and Antonio 'Pro' Provenzano.

My mother-in-law was on the Federal Grand Jury investigating the case back then. Two U.S. Marshalls would come to her house the evening before with a notice to appear for duty. This went on for around a year.

My father-in-law always had me answer the door. If I recall his comments correctly--"F%*# them, they'll never find anything".

Maybe the guy was right.


38 posted on 05/26/2006 12:46:07 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Abathar

See #38.


39 posted on 05/26/2006 12:52:42 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: 300magnum
The investigation was triggered by a tip from Donovan Wells, 75, a federal prisoner serving time for marijuana trafficking who lived on the farm at the time of Hoffa's disappearance.

An old farmer's son went to prison for bank robbery. The money was never found.

One day the farmer wrote a letter to his son in prison saying, "Son, I am afraid I am going to lose the farm without you to help plow the fields. I don't know what to do. - Your loving father."

A couple of days later the farmer received a letter back from his son saying, "Dad, whatever you do, don't plow the south field because that is where I buried all of my money!"

That same day, a large group of FBI agents showed up at the farm. They spent the entire day digging up the field, but found nothing. After several hours of digging, they finally left.

A few days later, the farmer received another letter from his son. "Dad under my circumstances, that was the best I could do for you. Let me know when you are ready to plow the north field. - Your loving son."

40 posted on 05/26/2006 1:16:34 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (What did Rather know and when did he know it?)
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