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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 28 May 2006
Various big media television networks ^ | 28 May 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 05/28/2006 5:08:34 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: Peach
Did Sensenbrenner add "Not this time?"

LOL. No, I had better clear that up right away. That was my addition.

151 posted on 05/28/2006 6:38:00 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Dog
On ABC's This Week, Jack Murtha raised the possibility that General Pete Pace ordered "the massacre at Haditha."

House republicans should censure Murtha on that alone.

152 posted on 05/28/2006 6:38:28 AM PDT by anita
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To: Morgan in Denver
4.7% Unemployment is in Economic Terms Full Employment. That means under 5% and you are starting to employ the marginal and unemployables.

Where are you going to get the new workers to replace the 8% of he workforce that is supposedly made up of Illegals?

153 posted on 05/28/2006 6:38:56 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The is no right to commit Treason in the 1st Amendment .)
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To: Mo1
that's why I keep saying folks need to pay attention to exactly what ALL is in that Senate Bill

That final 'manager' amendment( #4188), too, has allot that should be read. Specter and Durbin (?) (IIRC) sneaked it through at the last minute.

One of the major provisions of that amendment is that any action on the border -- troops, fences, BP -- requires the US government to consult with the Mexican government.

That amendment is over 100 pages (IIRC), so it needs scrutinizing. Specter managed to keep the text of the amendment from being printed until the Senate had ended its session.
154 posted on 05/28/2006 6:39:07 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Bahbah

Oh! Darn. It would have been a good line for Sensenbrenner to have tossed of.


155 posted on 05/28/2006 6:39:30 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: Peach

Brit just gave ABC news heck for the Hastert is under investigation story. ;-)


156 posted on 05/28/2006 6:40:40 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Peach
Russert: Will you accept any legislation which puts illegals on path to citizenship. Sensenbrenner: No. Talk of amnesty is increasing crossing the border as we speak.

If the House stands firm, the GOP base is going to become very motivated. The reward may well be extra seats and a further shift to the right.

If Hagel thinks we're at full employment now, just wait and see what happens when an industry develops to track down, prosecute & drive illegals out of our country. We will have to increase legal immigration (of course, from countries of our choosing) just to handle the work-load.

157 posted on 05/28/2006 6:41:08 AM PDT by lemura
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To: kerryusama04

One strange aspect of the William Jefferson story is that his legal troubles were known before Nancy Pelosi et al started their campaign slogan "Culture of Corruption". How tone deaf or insulated from the real world are the dems?


158 posted on 05/28/2006 6:41:30 AM PDT by maica (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle --Abraham Lincoln)
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To: anita
Great stuff anita! I always love your nuggets. There is never a week that goes by that does not see the New Media slowly but surely trumping the old drivers by.
159 posted on 05/28/2006 6:41:45 AM PDT by rodguy911 (support the new Media, ticket the drive-bys)
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To: Dog
On ABC's This Week, Jack Murtha raised the possibility that General Pete Pace ordered "the massacre at Haditha."

OMG. On Memorial Day weekend we have to hear this kind of crap. It's Vietnam lies redux ala John Kerry. It worked so well then, the leftists are trying it again. Our poor troops.

160 posted on 05/28/2006 6:42:29 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: TomGuy

Hagel thinks the length of the Senate bill makes it better. It doesn't. It just provides more ways to get around the law and more work for the courts to figure it out.


161 posted on 05/28/2006 6:42:54 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: MNJohnnie
Where are you going to get the new workers to replace the 8% of he workforce that is supposedly made up of Illegals?

The sad fact is that we don't know how many illegals are here, where they work, how many receive EITC payments, pay into SS, pay taxes, receive social services, etc. How can you set good public policy without knowing the extent and breadth of the problem? Secure our borders and enforcement of our existing laws first before cmprehensive immigration reform.

162 posted on 05/28/2006 6:43:13 AM PDT by kabar
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To: NordP

Thanks for the backgrounder on Tony Orlando, and thanks for your terrific tagline!!


163 posted on 05/28/2006 6:43:32 AM PDT by maica (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle --Abraham Lincoln)
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To: MNJohnnie
Where are you going to get the new workers to replace the 8% of he workforce that is supposedly made up of Illegals?

Oh, a couple of million Chinese, Indians, Argentinians, Congoese, et al may qualify. The important point is that WE get to choose who we allow in, not the illegal immigrants.

164 posted on 05/28/2006 6:43:42 AM PDT by lemura
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To: Dog

OMG.


165 posted on 05/28/2006 6:44:06 AM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve.)
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To: TomGuy

If the are illegal and have been working illegally how does one prove when and for what they have work in order for tax to be collected.

Surely if they worked illegally (money in back pocket) there will be no records or will it calculated on the going rate for the job they admit they were doing.


166 posted on 05/28/2006 6:44:09 AM PDT by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: maica
Great post, maica, my motto is and will be, vote the Rino out.
167 posted on 05/28/2006 6:45:31 AM PDT by rodguy911 (support the new Media, ticket the drive-bys)
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To: SwatTeam; All

Be my guest. You can add to it too from the links.

There was a great read on FR yesterday too if people want to get an uplift for Memorial Day by a fellow Freeper.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1639284/posts


168 posted on 05/28/2006 6:46:52 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: rodguy911
my motto is and will be, vote the Rino out.

I prefer: replace a Rino with a conservative. ;-)

169 posted on 05/28/2006 6:47:48 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: snugs

It gets worse than that. The Senate bill has different rules for people who have been here less than two years, 2 to 5 years, and more than five years. Imagine how difficult that is going to be to enforce. Moreover, the Senate bill wants to deport people who have been here less than two years ignoring the fact that we can do that now under existing laws.


170 posted on 05/28/2006 6:49:28 AM PDT by kabar
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To: samantha
samantha, I fully agree with your assessment of the dems.

Howard Dean's brother along with MoveOn.org & liberals are trying to defeat Joe Liberman because he supports Iraq war. Evan Byoh, is nowadays voting with liberals fearing similar backlash. 'nough said.

171 posted on 05/28/2006 6:50:07 AM PDT by anita
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To: Alas Babylon!

How dumb does "President" Frist think the American people are? Very bad performance from someone who should have stuck to medicine, IMO.


172 posted on 05/28/2006 6:50:45 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Bill Kristol now downplaying the opposition within the GOP to the Senate bill. Kristol doesn't get it.


173 posted on 05/28/2006 6:51:16 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Peach
God Bless Sensenbrenner!
174 posted on 05/28/2006 6:51:33 AM PDT by NordP (Dig a moat the length of Mexican border, take the dirt & raise New Orleans' levees--add alligators.)
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To: Morgan in Denver

What were the details of the campaign finance reform bill?


175 posted on 05/28/2006 6:52:49 AM PDT by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: snugs
If the are illegal and have been working illegally how does one prove when and for what they have work in order for tax to be collected.

Further, how do you figure out how long an "undocumented" person has been in the country. I am imagining Joe Isuzu "Trust ME".

176 posted on 05/28/2006 6:53:41 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

To liberals, everyone who disagees with them is in an underclass. They hate capitalism, freedom, our market economy, the military and America. Yet, they want people to vote them into office so they can create their vision of utipia. Amazing.


177 posted on 05/28/2006 6:53:59 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: MNJohnnie
Typical Bush, setting the proper, mature tone here.

Too bad, but for his arrogant behaviour bloggers would have demolished ABC for their Hastert story.

178 posted on 05/28/2006 6:55:36 AM PDT by anita
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To: Alas Babylon!

NBC is putting the interviews with former presidents on its web sites.


179 posted on 05/28/2006 6:56:22 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: rodguy911

My pleasure, Rod.


180 posted on 05/28/2006 6:56:23 AM PDT by anita
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To: kabar
Bill Kristol now downplaying the opposition within the GOP to the Senate bill. Kristol doesn't get it.

I almost got whiplash a few weeks ago when I heard Kristol come down on the "comprehensive" side of the issue. I did not see that coming.

181 posted on 05/28/2006 6:56:45 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20)
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To: maica
How tone deaf or insulated from the real world are the dems?

More likely they hope their voters are and again here she went on the offensive rather than defensive with her Republicans culture of corruption, hoping it would be taken at face value and that the dems would not be looked at too closely. Unfortunately as far as the media is concerned this is working. Lets hope the American people are smarter

182 posted on 05/28/2006 6:57:01 AM PDT by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: Dog

No idea, but it would not surprise me if Murtha accused General Pace of murder. Murtha is just plain nuts.


183 posted on 05/28/2006 6:57:11 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: Morgan in Denver

You took those 7,636,539 words right out of my mouth, Morgan. Case well made.


184 posted on 05/28/2006 6:57:13 AM PDT by chiller (every time we call MSM "mainstream" we confirm their status. "OLD" or "ANTIQUE" please.)
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To: Morgan in Denver
This immigration bill contains much more. Rush Limbaugh published a lengty article about the ramifications:

Rush Limbaugh Transcript on Immigration (Today's show) [5-26-2006]

I'm not a Limbaugh-bot, but he has an eye-opening perspective in that lengthy analysis.

======

With the immigration bill, we are being sold a bill of goods.

"The great mass of people will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one."

Adolf Hitler (1889-1945), German dictator. Mein Kampf, vol. 1, ch. 10 (1925)

===

The 'Immigration Bill' is the big lie that the Senate and the White House are trying to sell us now.
185 posted on 05/28/2006 6:58:42 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: anita
A response to the suggestion that Bush has done the mature thing (a position with which I agree):

I agree but wait and see if this does not give people who like to bitch about Bush something else to complain about. Left by Terrye on May 25th, 2006

186 posted on 05/28/2006 6:59:01 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Bahbah
You're welcome. You gotta give credit where credit is due.

I only wish I could tell you ALL he said during those dinners. Suffice to say, it would make you smile, be proud, laugh, be upset, and down right fascinated throughout it all. He's really fun to be around.

187 posted on 05/28/2006 6:59:06 AM PDT by NordP (Dig a moat the length of Mexican border, take the dirt & raise New Orleans' levees--add alligators.)
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To: betsyross1776

You're welcome but Hannity or Ingraham will have to figure it out for themselves. They will, I'm sure, before the election in November.


188 posted on 05/28/2006 7:00:03 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: anita

I just read your response and I LOL! I never thought of the MSM/DNC as cyclops before,but your post made me think of the old horror movie "cyclops" the one eyed monster, and it fits them. Of course ceeBS has that logo that looks like a "cyclops" also. The MSM/DNC will now and forever be known as "cyclops" because their one eye is representative of how they all think/see as one,no divergent opinion for them.


189 posted on 05/28/2006 7:00:15 AM PDT by samantha (cheer up, the adults are in charge! Soldier in Bucket Brigade Reporting for Duty.)
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To: maica

America: the land of opportunity.

Just ask all the ex-presidents or foreign country leaders who are now at our universities and on speaking tours. ROFLOL


190 posted on 05/28/2006 7:01:34 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: kabar
Hey Kristol...."You want fit the description of Rush's ELITE COUNTRY CLUB REPUBLICANS part of the Party, or what???"

It's MUCH nicer down here with the 'little people!'"

NordP

191 posted on 05/28/2006 7:02:35 AM PDT by NordP (Dig a moat the length of Mexican border, take the dirt & raise New Orleans' levees--add alligators.)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

This is a really frightening thought, but Hastert and Frist both coming out for Jefferson makes it look like the Pubbies have something to hide in their offices. What in the hell is going on with them?


192 posted on 05/28/2006 7:02:40 AM PDT by samantha (cheer up, the adults are in charge! Soldier in Bucket Brigade Reporting for Duty.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I just saw Bill Frist on Fox. He makes me ill. Oh no...there's more.


193 posted on 05/28/2006 7:03:21 AM PDT by montomike (If you didn't find this funny and were offended...have a riot.)
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To: Bahbah

Thanks Bahbah....


194 posted on 05/28/2006 7:03:27 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: snugs

Lets hope the American people are smarter

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The Jefferson case is one that everyone can 'understand." He was videotaped taking a bribe. The numbered bills were found in his freezer, And he commandeered National Guard troops to go to his home in New Orleans during the critical rescue phase of post-Katrina.

His name could be used as a synonym for corruption, and the dem-enabling media will not be able to suppress this story.


195 posted on 05/28/2006 7:03:34 AM PDT by maica (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle --Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Morgan in Denver

Oh, yeah

Gorbachev settled in San Francisco, didn't he.


196 posted on 05/28/2006 7:05:32 AM PDT by maica (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle --Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Bahbah
There is a debate going on whether Bush abandoned Conservatives or Conservatives abandoned Bush - Anchoress gives a dissection. Worth the read IMO which I agree 100%.
197 posted on 05/28/2006 7:05:45 AM PDT by anita
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To: snugs
If the are illegal and have been working illegally how does one prove when and for what they have work in order for tax to be collected.

According to the provisions in this new Senate bill, all they have to do is sign an affidavit stating 'I've been here x number of years, and I owe $y amount in back taxes.'

[There are no provisions for verification, nor any provisions for punishment for lying on the application.]
198 posted on 05/28/2006 7:06:01 AM PDT by TomGuy
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I saw the post earlier that said Durbin was going to be on the conference committee. He is a supporter of the "Dream Act" which is the provision in the immigration bill that gives in-state tuition to illegals. This is one of the worst things in the bill and I don't hear anyone talking about it.


199 posted on 05/28/2006 7:06:28 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: samantha
As someone who is English I find this so hard to understand. Are they saying that constitutionally you cannot search the office of a Congressman or was it way it was gone about.

I know there is the separation of powers thing which I am just about holding onto by the skin of my teeth which we do not have.

At the end of the day though to be you have either done something wrong or not and if you have then there should be powers to search in particularly your office.
200 posted on 05/28/2006 7:07:26 AM PDT by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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