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U.N. "Disarming" Iraq from WMD while allowing them WMD???
U.N. Export List to Iraq ^ | May 28, 2006 | avacado

Posted on 05/28/2006 6:59:14 AM PDT by avacado

My subject title doesn't make sense, does it? How coud the U.N. be disarming Iraq from WMD while allowing them WMD at the same time. Is there a 4th dimension of space that I am not aware of?

Chemicals allowed for export to Iraq by other countries:

- Sodium Cyanide
- Hydrogen Cyanide
- Phosgene

Well golly, gee-whiz... those chemicals are WMD with a world history of being used as chemical weapons. The U.N. is a complete joke! They are looking for chemical weapons while allowing Saddam to purchase chemical weapons! Yeah, that's the ticket! Makes good sense to me!

U.N. (Oil-for-Food programme) Goods Review List: http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/documents/S-2002-515.pdf


TOPICS: War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bush; iraq; iraqiintelligence; prewardocs; prewarintelligence; saddam; terrorism; wmd; wmds; wot
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To: Renderofveils; avacado
As of right now, this is a non-issue, unless there's some weird chemical weapons smuggling ring selling phosgene to, say... Iran or Syria.

I agree. Iraq and chemical weapons aren't an issue at this point. We have an embassy in Iraq now. And a bunch of military bases.

And Saddam's locked up in an fortress in the Radwaniyah sectio undisclosed location (sorry, but it's the worst-kept secret in Iraq) unless he has to be in court.

21 posted on 05/28/2006 8:02:43 AM PDT by Allegra (Finbar for Texas Governor!)
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To: Carry_Okie

The Germans know ALL about Phosgene!


22 posted on 05/28/2006 8:05:59 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: avacado
The subject is about the inspections and the chemicals allowed by the U.N. during a 12 year period of disarmament.

Want to talk 'red herring'?

When did that 12-year period end?
Why do you think it's important today?

I couldn't care less at this point. Why am I talking to a troll?
Have a nice day.

23 posted on 05/28/2006 8:06:31 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: TADSLOS

Hey,that's right,Bush lied!!!


24 posted on 05/28/2006 8:06:31 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: avacado

BTTT


25 posted on 05/28/2006 8:08:51 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Publius6961
--- Want to talk 'red herring'? When did that 12-year period end? Why do you think it's important today? I couldn't care less at this point. ---

I don't really care what YOU want. Understand. I was simply putting forth known chemcials weapons that the UN was allowing Saddam to import at a time when inspectors were in the country looking to destroy chemcial weapons.

As for you, you have issues.

26 posted on 05/28/2006 8:11:26 AM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

Raw chemicals that could have been used for the manufacture of chemical weapons should NEVER have been allowed to be shipped to Iraq while Saddam was in power. If the UN was concerned about Iraq having fertilizer (or pesticides) to facilitate crop growth then they should have made arrangements to ship the pre-processed materials to the fields where it was to be applied. Why we as a nation give a penny of support to the UN is beyond my comprehension...


27 posted on 05/28/2006 9:12:19 AM PDT by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: avacado
The U.N. is a complete joke!

This just in... :D

28 posted on 05/28/2006 9:23:05 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: Fruitbat; avacado
This thread is like a time warp.

Where's Hans Blix?

29 posted on 05/28/2006 10:06:05 AM PDT by Allegra (Thread Hijacker Extraordinaire)
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To: Publius6961; avacado; My2Cents; jveritas; Peach
Hey, Carry_Okie and Publius6961. What is your DEAL? Don't be back-stabbers; you're too eager on this one and you've jumped the gun. I googled Sodium cyanide, and found no healthful use for it on the Wikipedia listing, unless Iraq is big into mining. It's one of the most rapidly-acting poisons. Granted, hydrogen cyanide can be used for good purposes, but so can nuclear bombs, and we didn't send THEM to Saddam either.

Avacado, good catch. I checked out the PDF and couldn't find quanities listed anywhere. Is there any way of finding that out, I wonder?

Ping to Greg and Peach, my other FRiends who were (and presumably still are) interested in the WMD discussion.
30 posted on 05/28/2006 11:53:28 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger ("Good guys" aren't always "nice guys".)
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To: Carry_Okie

You can use phosgene for 'human plating' but we have no evidence that Saddam ateany of his adversaries.


31 posted on 05/28/2006 12:09:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Allegra
--- This thread is like a time warp. Where's Hans Blix? ---

Really? How so? I have never seen posted, nor discussed, the Goods Review List of the U.N.'s regarding Iraq nor have I seen posted, nor discussed, then fact that while the U.N. was searching for chemical weapons Iraq was allowed to import chemical weapons.

Look, if this thread is not your cup of tea, then move along. It's that easy.

32 posted on 05/28/2006 12:24:36 PM PDT by avacado
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To: DaveLoneRanger
--- I googled Sodium cyanide, and found no healthful use for it on the Wikipedia listing, unless Iraq is big into mining. It's one of the most rapidly-acting poisons. ---

Saddam had a past history of using sodium cyanide to manufacture the chemical weapon called tabun.

--- Avacado, good catch. I checked out the PDF and couldn't find quanities listed anywhere. Is there any way of finding that out, I wonder? ---

Countries could freely export to Iraq anything on List A that is less than 10% solution and if more than that concentrate then they were supposed to submit a form to the UN. I believe a company in Finland exported sodium cyanide to Iraq in 2002 without submitting a form to the UN. And since the program was handled by the Oil-for-Food program, we all know how honest that operation was.

33 posted on 05/28/2006 12:30:39 PM PDT by avacado
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To: MHGinTN
You can use phosgene for 'human plating' but we have no evidence that Saddam ateany of his adversaries.

Phosgene is an intermediate chemical in the production of pesticides and herbicides.

34 posted on 05/28/2006 12:39:45 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

And of course Saddam needed millions of tons to sustain that massive agricultural infrastructure he operated, planting Iranians.


35 posted on 05/28/2006 12:46:46 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
And of course Saddam needed millions of tons to sustain that massive agricultural infrastructure he operated, planting Iranians.

Millions of tons? Prove it.

36 posted on 05/28/2006 12:55:20 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Who are you, Ramsey Clark? Where did you check your sense of humor when you clicked on FR today?


37 posted on 05/28/2006 1:02:26 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
Hyperbole is not debate. The point is that dual use can only be verified by inspection and audit. To ban the importation of phosgene, is pointless because it denies how easy it is to produce. To assert that a country with a large ag and chemical base should be incapable of manufacturing phosgene is equally silly. They could simply overheat vinyl to get loads of it. I doubt anyone was suggesting that Iraq under OFF should have been incapable of importing vinyl goods. It's silly, and it's therefore understandable why the UN blew off direct import controls, preferring to audit weapons production and storage.

Thus in no way am I saying that Saddam was no threat to use phosgene for WMD. What I am saying is that blowing off control of its import is not prima facae evidence that the UN is approving of their manufacture.

38 posted on 05/28/2006 1:11:31 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Allegra
Where's Hans Blix? Perhaps Scott Ritter, Jacques Chirac, and Slick Willie needed a 4th for bridge. :) This whole thread has been rather silly.
39 posted on 05/28/2006 1:56:37 PM PDT by Gorobei
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To: Renderofveils; Carry_Okie; avacado
Now if Saddam's acquitted of all charges and he reclaims his former position, we've got a serious problem.

Saddam is NOT getting out of an Iraqi jail with his skin....sorry if that blows up your theory, but it just won't happen. Beyond that, the Saudis and the Kuwaitis want a piece of him once the Iraqis are done.
40 posted on 05/28/2006 1:59:09 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq)
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