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U.N. "Disarming" Iraq from WMD while allowing them WMD???
U.N. Export List to Iraq ^ | May 28, 2006 | avacado

Posted on 05/28/2006 6:59:14 AM PDT by avacado

My subject title doesn't make sense, does it? How coud the U.N. be disarming Iraq from WMD while allowing them WMD at the same time. Is there a 4th dimension of space that I am not aware of?

Chemicals allowed for export to Iraq by other countries:

- Sodium Cyanide
- Hydrogen Cyanide
- Phosgene

Well golly, gee-whiz... those chemicals are WMD with a world history of being used as chemical weapons. The U.N. is a complete joke! They are looking for chemical weapons while allowing Saddam to purchase chemical weapons! Yeah, that's the ticket! Makes good sense to me!

U.N. (Oil-for-Food programme) Goods Review List: http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/documents/S-2002-515.pdf


TOPICS: War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bush; iraq; iraqiintelligence; prewardocs; prewarintelligence; saddam; terrorism; wmd; wmds; wot
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Give me one cowboy from Crawford, Texas over these U.N. nitwits any day.
1 posted on 05/28/2006 6:59:17 AM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

Ridiculous. Everyone knows that Iraq has no WMD and never did.


2 posted on 05/28/2006 7:00:55 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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I don't know about phosgene, but the rest of those chemicals have industrial uses, such as electroplating.
3 posted on 05/28/2006 7:02:22 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie
--- I don't know about phosgene, but the rest of those chemicals have industrial uses, such as electroplating. ---

Dual use chemicals that have a history of being used as chemical weapons should NOT be allowed. There are 2 lists in that PDF document and many chemicals are banned from Iraq and hydrogen cyanide and phosgene should be on the banned list.

What's the point of inspections if Saddam can have all the hydrogen cyanide and phosgene his little heart desires?

5 posted on 05/28/2006 7:07:43 AM PDT by avacado
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Dual use chemicals that have a history of being used as chemical weapons should NOT be allowed.

I'd prefer to allow our military people decide that. The inability to run a plating operation can seriously hamper oil production, for example.

What's the point of inspections if Saddam can have all the hydrogen cyanide and phosgene his little heart desires?

What planet are you on? Excuse me, but he's in jail.

6 posted on 05/28/2006 7:13:58 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

This mindset is exactly why a rogue nation must attack and kill many before any international action can be taken. It is wrong to hold terror to that high of a standard... or any standard for that matter. EVIL is EVIL.

LLS


7 posted on 05/28/2006 7:14:28 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Carry_Okie
--- What planet are you on? Excuse me, but he's in jail. ---

Yes, I know that. Thanks for the update. And had you read what I wrote, I was referring to inspections. You know, the past. And if you want to support Saddam having had hydrogen cyanide and phosgene then that's just fine.

8 posted on 05/28/2006 7:18:40 AM PDT by avacado
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What planet are you on? Excuse me, but he's in jail.

I think someone's missed the war. Now if Saddam's acquitted of all charges and he reclaims his former position, we've got a serious problem. As of right now, this is a non-issue, unless there's some weird chemical weapons smuggling ring selling phosgene to, say... Iran or Syria.
9 posted on 05/28/2006 7:20:44 AM PDT by Renderofveils (Qur’an 8:39 “So, fight them until all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.”)
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And had you read what I wrote, I was referring to inspections. You know, the past.

Just to avoid confusion, you may want to write historical commentary in the past tense.
10 posted on 05/28/2006 7:23:24 AM PDT by Renderofveils (Qur’an 8:39 “So, fight them until all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.”)
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To: avacado
I was referring to inspections. You know, the past.

Then make that clear, you know, by providing dates. For all I know the UN is regulating Iraqi imports today.

And if you want to support Saddam having had hydrogen cyanide and phosgene then that's just fine.

As I said, I don't know about phosgene, but I do know that lethal gases are used in the production of agricultural pesticides (remember Bhopal?). Were we allowing the Iraqis to import pesticides for agriculture, they could obtain the chemicals to produce WMD them. So, are you advocating that the Iraqis under Saddam not be allowed to grow food?

The fact is that dual use is a reality of chemistry and that the legitimate uses are facts of economic necessity. WMD can be produced from chemicals that are necessary for everyday sustenance. Thus the only real way to preclude the conversion of chemicals into WMD was the inspection routine. Such isn't so simple as you would wish.

11 posted on 05/28/2006 7:27:48 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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--- I was referring to inspections. You know, the past. ---

Then make that clear, you know, by providing dates. For all I know the UN is regulating Iraqi imports today.

I have had enough of you. Had you READ the document that I posted instead of shooting your mouth off we wouldn't be having this conversation. The document is dated and refers to prior UN Resolutions.

Have a nice day.

12 posted on 05/28/2006 7:39:20 AM PDT by avacado
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Unfortunately, wasn't it under the Reagan administration that Iraq was removed frm the terrorist-sponsoring lists, allowing dual use tech to be exported there?


13 posted on 05/28/2006 7:41:59 AM PDT by Gorobei
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What's the point of inspections if Saddam can have all the hydrogen cyanide and phosgene his little heart desires?

Ummm...he's not in power anymore. There was this war in 2003 and he was removed from power.

Then, in July of 2003, his sons Uday and Qusay were killed by American forces.

Then in December '03, Saddam was captured by U.S. forces in a spider hole in Tikrit.

I know he still says he's the President of Iraq, but he's really not. It's a guy named Talabani now and he's on our side.

14 posted on 05/28/2006 7:48:10 AM PDT by Allegra (Finbar for Texas Governor!)
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To: avacado
Seeing as you've now had comments from three others responding to the confusion in your post, best you deal with the fact that what you meant isn't what you wrote.
15 posted on 05/28/2006 7:52:48 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: avacado
You spelled "avocado", wrong troll.

You never heard of the concept of multiple use chemicals?
You are aware that many lethal compounds can be made from common household chemicals and products?

You want to prevent them from making detergents? Industrial solvents? Other useful things not WMDs?

Perhaps your most important goal is to remind us all that something else in Iraq is being screwed up by George Bush and "his" war?

16 posted on 05/28/2006 7:52:56 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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--- What's the point of inspections if Saddam can have all the hydrogen cyanide and phosgene his little heart desires? ---

Ummm...he's not in power anymore. There was this war in 2003 and he was removed from power.

Errrr.... this was about the inspections prior to the war. You know, back when the U.N. was trying to disarm Iraq just as the title says. Read the document instead of being glib with me.

17 posted on 05/28/2006 7:54:16 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Gorobei
--- Unfortunately, wasn't it under the Reagan administration that Iraq was removed frm the terrorist-sponsoring lists, allowing dual use tech to be exported there?

The subject is about the inspections and the chemicals allowed by the U.N. during a 12 year period of disarmament. Maybe you should start a Reagan post for your subject....red herring.

18 posted on 05/28/2006 7:56:48 AM PDT by avacado
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Or maybe I'll post where I please.

Perhaps it was a necessary evil at the time, given the rise of the Iranian threat, but getting that sort of technology into Hussein's hands in the first place was not a good idea.


19 posted on 05/28/2006 7:59:58 AM PDT by Gorobei
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To: Publius6961
--- You spelled "avocado", wrong troll. ---

Two things. I can spell the word any way I like. It's a made up name. Second, I am no troll. I came here for the prewar documents and have been trying to assist jveriats in any manner that I can. I was also asked by jveritas to make this post.

And it's nice to see that you are incapable of discussing the subject of the UN allowing the Hussein regime to have phosgene and hydrogen cyanide - known WMD.

Have a nice day.

20 posted on 05/28/2006 8:00:56 AM PDT by avacado
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