'Ex-Gays' Seek a Say in Schools

Los Angeles Times ^ | May 28, 2006 | Stephanie Simon

[DBeers]

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — Over the last decade, gay-rights activists have pushed programs to support gay and lesbian students in public schools. Their success is striking:

More than 3,000 Gay-Straight Alliance clubs meet across the country. Nearly half a million students take a vow of silence one day each spring in an annual event to support gay rights. California may soon require textbooks to feature the contributions of gays and lesbians throughout history.

Critics, mostly on the religious right, view all this as promoting the "homosexual lifestyle." Unable to stop it, they have turned to a new strategy: demanding equal time for their view in public schools and on college campuses.

Conservative Christians and Jews have teamed up with men and women who call themselves "ex-gay" to lobby — and even sue — for the right to tell teenagers that they can "heal" themselves of unwanted same-sex attractions.

They argue that schools have an obligation to balance gay-pride themes with the message that gay and lesbian students can go straight through "reparative therapy." In this view, homosexuality is not a fixed or inborn trait but a symptom of emotional distress — a disorder that can be cured.

Alan Chambers, a leading ex-gay activist, recalls how scared and depressed he felt when a high-school counselor advised him to deal with his attraction to other boys by accepting his homosexuality. He had no choice, she told him: He was gay. "It was very damaging," Chambers said. "I didn't want that. I hadn't chosen it."

His senior year, Chambers found his way to Exodus International, a network of groups that support ex-gays. He is now married to a woman, a father of two — and the president of Exodus.

~SNIP~

[DBeers]

Note: this assumed objective article on the truly subjective OOZES homosexual agenda driven bias -it provides a smorgasborg of omnimegamulti barf alerts some of which are quite humorous when considering and extrapolating the necessarily applied impact on the agenda premising the assault evidenced in this piece...

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[CharlesWayneCT]

I don't remember ANY of my history books mentioning ONE THING that "heterosexuals" did for society. So why are we going to highlight was "gays" did?

[mmercier]

in an old post I mentioned that those who were not gay but were recruited in public schools would cause a backlash when they realized they were not queer.

someone who has been giving head since 5th grade that suddenly realizes he is not queer when he is 20 is a person that must be dealt with; and he will demand not justice, but retribution.

Time only will tell.

[pleikumud]

I am repeating here what I've said elsewhere:
When scientists look for signs of life, such as on Mars, they look for life forms that reproduce. Since gay sex cannot possibly reproduce another life, it is clear that gay sex is contrary to nature.
It is also a worldwide health problem, since it is the root cause of AIDS. Homosexuals and lesbians are not engaged in a "life style", they are undermining human existence.

[Gordongekko909]

Oh, we aren't. The history books will have to "find" gays that did great things. These could be people who did great things that we already knew were great (Abraham Lincoln), or they will just make up great things that were done by not-so-great people who were allegedly gay (Oscar Wilde). Or take a person who is largely presumed gay and puff his achievements as hard as possible (Oscar Wilde again).

Expect to see a lot of Oscar Wilde.

[new cruelty]

[fieldmarshaldj]

Paul Lynde and Stephen Stucker... all day... every day...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA !!!

[kcvl]

A Very Wary Christmas
Friday, December 9, 2005
Stephanie Simon - - Los Angeles Times
|
Retailers and governments heed the wrath of Christians who seek recognition of the sanctity of the occasion. Attorneys are standing by.






Grooming Politicians for Christ
Tuesday, August 23, 2005
Stephanie Simon - - Los Angeles Times
|
Evangelical programs on Capitol Hill seek to mold a new generation of leaders who will answer not to voters, but to God.

[kcvl]

Christians Sue for Right Not to Tolerate Policies
Stephanie Simon/Los Angeles Times (4/10/06)

With her lawsuit, Ruth Malhotra joins a growing campaign to force public schools, state colleges and private workplaces to eliminate policies protecting gays and lesbians from harassment. The religious right aims to overturn a broad range of common tolerance programs.

[Lucky Dog]

Homosexuality is defined by behavior, i.e., unless one engages in sexual activity with a member of the same sex, he, or she, is not a homosexual. (The term sexual orientation is a diversionary tactic employed to rhetorically cloud the issue.)

Any human behavior (not driven by autonomic or instinctual responses) that is not voluntary is, by definition, a psychosis.

Therefore, homosexual behavior is either a voluntary choice or a psychosis.

If homosexual behavior is a voluntary choice, then it is subject to the same types of societal regulations as is any other sexual behavior such as pedophilia, prostitution, polygamy, etc.

If homosexual behavior is a psychosis, then it is validly subject to treatment and possible cure.

If homosexual behavior is voluntary, it has no more claim to discussion in a public school curriculum than does pedophilia, prostitution, polygamy, etc., i.e., none.

If homosexual behavior is involuntary (a psychosis), it has no more claim to discussion in a school curriculum than does any other psychosis, i.e., none.

In either case, homosexual practitioners have no valid claim to insist on inclusion of discussion of their sexual proclivities in a public school curriculum. Homosexual individuals are incapable of reproduction if they are exclusively homosexual. (If these individuals do not practice exclusively homosexual activity, then, by definition, they can choose not to be homosexual.) By the principles of genetics, exclusively homosexual practitioners would cause such types of individuals to appear in the population at no greater rate than that of other genetic disorders which prevent their victims from procreating, not the currently observed proportion of the population.

[DBeers]

She seems to really be exploring her "masculine" side -no doubt, compensating for the effeminate leftist men she encounters...

/end psychoanalysis

[Gordongekko909]

Okay, I'd stick him the history books just for being funny as all hell. Our children need to learn how to speak Jive, while we're at it.

Yeah, Airplane ruled. If I were a teacher, my students would have to watch Caddyshack too.

[little jeremiah]

"Omnimegamulti barf alerts"... You've outdone yourself, DB!

[DBeers]

;-)

[balrog666]

Homosexuality is defined by behavior

Duh, wrong!

You could ask any of the ex-homosexuals here on FR.

Or consult the American Psychiatric Association. Or even Wikipedia.

[gidget7]

"recalls how scared and depressed he felt when a high-school counselor advised him to deal with his attraction to other boys by accepting his homosexuality. He had no choice, she told him: He was gay. "It was very damaging," Chambers said. "I didn't want that. I hadn't chosen it."



And therein lies the scariest part of this whole agenda being in schools. More young people have attempted to, or succeeded in, committing suicide because guidance councilors told them that, as well as teachers and other students. We never hear of them however, until Mr. Chambers came along and told his story.

I personally know a family whose son falls into this category. Thankfully he didn't fall prey, but did attempt to end his life, before his parents packed up and moved him south to a much more conservative area. He too, is now married, and very happy with his life.

THIS is the real danger to kids suffering from same sex attraction disorder, many of them want nothing to do with the lifestyle.

[gidget7]

My guess would be they will seize historical figures, so to speak, say they were gay when in fact the weren't, and none of them are alive to refute it, affirm it, give permission for them to release said information, or deny them the right to use it.

Talk about privacy rights invasion!

[Lucky Dog]

Duh, wrong!

What an amazingly intellectual response. Did you think that one up all on your own?

Is rape defined by a behavior? Is prostitution defined by a behavior? Is polygamy defined by a behavior? Are not all of these sexual behaviors? If any of the practitioners failed to engage in any of these behaviors, would they still be described by the term?

Homosexuality is not one whet different. If the practitioners does not engage in the sexual behavior with a member of the same sex, then he, or she, can not be described as a homosexual. Having so-called attractions to a member of the same sex does not make someone a homosexual any more than wanting to marry more than one woman makes some one a polygamist.

Your response indicates a distinct lack of the mastery of logic.

[Das Outsider]

Our children need to learn how to speak Jive, while we're at it.

Then let's get started:

'Ex-Gays' Seek some Say in Farms
Los Angeles Times ^ | May 28, 2006 | Stephanie Simon

Posted on 05/28/2006 2:23:19 PM PDT by DBeers

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. WORD! — Ova' de last decade, gay-rights activists gots pushed honky codes t'suppo't gay and lesbian students in public farms. Deir success be strikin':

Mo'e dan 3,000 Gay-Straight Alliance clubs meet across de country. Slap mah fro! Nearly half some million students snatch some vow uh silence one day each sprin' in an annual event t'suppo't gay rights. Califo'nia may soon require textscribblin's t'feature da damn contribushuns uh gays and lesbians droughout histo'y.

Slap mah fro! Critics, mostly on de religious right, view all dis as promotin' de "homosexual lifestyle." Unable t'stop it, dey gots turned t'a new strategy, dig dis: demandin' equal time fo' deir view in public farms and on college campuses.

Conservative Christians and Jews gots teamed down wid dudes and honky chicks who call demselves "ex-gay" t'lobby — and even sue — fo' de right t'tell teenagers dat dey kin "heal" demselves uh unwants'ed same-sex attracshuns.

Dey argue dat farms gots an obligashun t'balance gay-pride demes wid de message dat gay and lesbian students kin go straight drough "reparative derapy. Slap mah fro!" In dis view, homosexuality be not some fixed o' inbo'n trait but some symptom uh emoshunal distress — some diso'da' dat kin be cured...

Courtesy The Dialectizer