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RFID Tracks school kids in Tucson
arizona daily [red] star ^ | 05.28.2006 | Jeff Commings

Posted on 05/28/2006 5:15:09 PM PDT by Tucson_AZ

"The district-wide program would start with kindergarten through fifth-grade students, Rowley said, because they are less likely to complain about wearing a tracking device. As the children get older, the program could work its way into middle and high schools. "By the time a kindergartner gets to sixth grade, they'll get used to it," Rowley said."

(Excerpt) Read more at azstarnet.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 666; bigbrother; children; chip; chipimplant; implant; markofthebeast; prviacy; rfid
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"This will allow the school to know as soon the kid boards the bus that they (students) are in their possession," he said.
1 posted on 05/28/2006 5:15:11 PM PDT by Tucson_AZ
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To: Tucson_AZ

this is bull. better stop this in its tracks


2 posted on 05/28/2006 5:16:48 PM PDT by ARA
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To: ARA

Suggest doing this at the border and it will be dead in a heart beat.


3 posted on 05/28/2006 5:18:30 PM PDT by Baynative (Liberty is only one generation away from from extinction.)
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To: Tucson_AZ
Evil enters like a needle and spreads like an oak.

Notice how this is a school board regulation? Could this be overstepping their bounds by just a tad? Imagine how much power, by analogy, a taxing authority could have with something like this being acceptable.

4 posted on 05/28/2006 5:21:31 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Tucson_AZ
By the time a kindergartner gets to sixth grade, they'll get used to it

And so it begins, get the kids used to being marked, tracked, and sorted

Gets a lot easier to do the same thing to them 20 years later,
then to their children with implants cradle to grave,
all tracked by our beloved government...

Kind of makes you all tingly inside
5 posted on 05/28/2006 5:23:37 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: ARA

"School kids" will certainly mean everyone to age 18, soon enough anyway. And then they're supposed to learn maturity instantly after that.

When they don't, the nanny-state will raise the age of adulthood - like for driving and alcohol - when the real problem all along was that they have been treated half their age their whole lives.

As they will still be treated at age 30 and beyond...


6 posted on 05/28/2006 5:23:49 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Tucson_AZ

"Damn, THX-1138 missed the bus again!"


7 posted on 05/28/2006 5:27:33 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: HangnJudge

If they ever force me to accept an implant I will pull out my knife and digg it out the moment they get done implanting it.

oh wait, knives will probobly be illegal then like they are in the UK.

oh well, a spoon works just as good as a knife. It just takes a little longer. on the bright side it scoops much better.


8 posted on 05/28/2006 5:29:42 PM PDT by Ainast
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To: Tucson_AZ
It's always to protect the children, first. What really is telling here is the fact that they admit, that by tracking them young they will be "used" to it --read that as Conditioned.

All these programs for the kids have always been about conditionig and control.

-Dogs to search for drugs, submitting to an animal for judgement.

-Police road stops to inspect child safety seats, conditioning them to submit to a uniform without question.

-Encouraging them to report behavior that might be illegal by their parents, trust the state not your family

Now this tagging them like animals in an experiment. Because it will start with a "key fob" and end up with a implant at birth, after all a key fob could be missplaced and its bulky let us just inject you. We promise to keep this information confidential...yeah right and a social security number would never be used for ID or tax purposes too. Remember that "promise".

9 posted on 05/28/2006 5:30:14 PM PDT by Kakaze (American: a Citizen of the United States of America........not just some resident of said continent)
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To: Tucson_AZ
... a plastic watchband, a small black box hooked to a belt loop or a key fob.

This reminds me of the ID/communicator thingies in "Star Trek," those little chevrons on the uniforms.

You know the kids will trade them around, leave them on the playground, flush them down the toilets, and Zot-knows-what else. All in good fun!

"Hey, for $20, I'll wear your ID tag and take your math test for you!"

10 posted on 05/28/2006 5:31:23 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Let all creation sing of salvation. Let us together give praise forever!)
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To: SteveMcKing

I think they shoud lower the drinking age to 15, and raise the driving age to 25. / sarc


11 posted on 05/28/2006 5:34:56 PM PDT by Lokibob (Spelling and typos are copyrighted. Please do not use.)
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To: Tucson_AZ
From the article:
In the small town of Sutter, Calif., parents successfully lobbied the district to discontinue their monthlong ID tag program in February 2005 after discovering children were forced to wear them and that personal information was sent through the system. This year, the California state Senate proposed a law prohibiting the use of RFID technology in state and local governments.
Kalifornicia turned down this Big Brother technology? Astounding!

I love my implanted RFID chip and my implanted RFID chip loves me.

12 posted on 05/28/2006 5:36:58 PM PDT by upchuck (Wikipedia.com - the most unbelievable web site in the world.)
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To: Ainast
Hmmmmm...

Aren't they setting us up for the same thing with our computers
Individually identified on the Internet,
so we can be marked, identified, sorted, and targeted
for our antisocial behavior?

Sort of makes posting to this forum fun doesn't it
13 posted on 05/28/2006 5:38:37 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Tax-chick
"Hey, for $20, I'll wear your ID tag and take your math test for you!"

Yup, this could be a lot of fun.

RFIDs are easy to spoof. You just put another (or several) RFIDs on your person (the kid's pockets, for instance) and the reader gets jammed with conflicting signals. What's the school gonna do then--schedule your kid for surgery to correct the problem? Inject him with another transponder?

14 posted on 05/28/2006 5:39:43 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: upchuck

Does your implanted RFID chip release drugs into your system to make you not only compliant, but feel good as well? Just wondering cause all mine does is rat me out.


15 posted on 05/28/2006 5:39:57 PM PDT by Ainast
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To: Tucson_AZ

All it will take is one pervert using one of these systems to find a victim to put a permanent end to this silly notion.


16 posted on 05/28/2006 5:42:08 PM PDT by thoughtomator (A thread without a comment on immigration is not complete)
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To: randog

these are not IMPLANTED into the student, its no more then an ID badge with a barcode, except that this one transmits a code wirelessly to a sensor.


17 posted on 05/28/2006 5:42:49 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Ainast

Does your implanted RFID chip release drugs into your system to make you not only compliant, but feel good as well? Just wondering cause all mine does is rat me out




All mine did was give me a nearly constant erection.


18 posted on 05/28/2006 5:43:30 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Lokibob

Heh.

I've no opinion on drinking, but for driving the age should be as low as possible. More years on the road = experience = saftey. A 40-year old new driver is as dangerous as a 16-year old, probably moreso due to slower reflexes.


19 posted on 05/28/2006 5:45:01 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: durasell

I have the Citizen OU-812 which does all these things. Highly recommended.


20 posted on 05/28/2006 5:48:25 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: oceanview
these are not IMPLANTED into the student, its no more then an ID badge with a barcode

Maybe not today, or tomorrow
But my instincts tell me that this
is bad JuJu.

Government should not
be trusted to hold this information
of a free and peaceful person. Period
21 posted on 05/28/2006 5:49:35 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Dumpster Baby

My suits no longer fit,I had to have all the legs on the tables in my home altered, and don't even get me started on crowded subways or elevators!


22 posted on 05/28/2006 5:49:40 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: HangnJudge
And so it begins, get the kids used to being marked, tracked, and sorted

Nah. It began when they started chasing God out of the schools and public places.

It continues with the attempt to marginalize or destroy Christianity (and Judaism), one twist, one seduction, one theory, one perversion at a time.

And it is gaining.

Anyone who had read their Bible would object out of hand to the mark, or anything approximating it. They had to remove the main source of objection from public discussion first.

23 posted on 05/28/2006 5:51:24 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: HangnJudge

hold what information? where you kid is located on school grounds?


24 posted on 05/28/2006 5:53:03 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Dumpster Baby

...on the positive side, I need no longer fear rolling out of bed in my sleep.


25 posted on 05/28/2006 5:54:37 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: thoughtomator

I think suggesting that it be used to track people coming across the border, as stated above, will get it killed quicker.


26 posted on 05/28/2006 5:54:56 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Amnesia is a train of thought.)
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To: oceanview
hold what information? where you kid is located on school grounds?

Again, this particular implementation is not in an of itself egregious

That they are clearly, by their own remarks,
wanting to implement this technology forward,
is worrisome to anyone who wants their children to be
able to speak and live freely in their adult life...
27 posted on 05/28/2006 5:59:33 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: durasell

A few glitches, though: I break out tap dancing entering or leaving the local Wal-Mart, and now I absolutely CRAVE pancake mix mold.


28 posted on 05/28/2006 6:00:19 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Dumpster Baby

That's funny, I find myself drawn to Bed, Bath & Beyond. Once inside I say things like, "Egyptian cotten 600 thread count" and "vanilla scented candle..."


29 posted on 05/28/2006 6:03:15 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Tucson_AZ

Interesting that we're tracking our children and at the same time invite illegal aliens into our country.


30 posted on 05/28/2006 6:12:28 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Ainast
If they ever force me to accept an implant I will pull out my knife and digg it out the moment they get done implanting it.

Those that dig thier implant out of their right hand will be implanted in their skull in such a way that to remove it will require cutting the surrounding bone...or so I read.

31 posted on 05/28/2006 6:15:25 PM PDT by Dosa26
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To: oceanview
these are not IMPLANTED into the student, its no more then an ID badge with a barcode, except that this one transmits a code wirelessly to a sensor.

Do a websearch for Verichip. Implants exist, and are entirely possible.

If no one objects to this step, the next contentions will be that students are losing their chips, that security may be compromised, or they are giving their sensor to another student so they show up in the computer and are skipping school instead, etc. hassle., etc. expense, yadda yadda , and the push for implants will be on.

If one kid gets mugged or murdered for their sensor tag, you can bet the push will be on for implants as a "safety" measure, and some parents will even push for it.

Anyone who objects will be branded as not caring about the 'safety of the children' (sound familliar?), or religious wackos.

The step after that is to brand such parents as abusive and/or uncaring (to have such disregard for the 'safety of their children'!), and to have the State sieze their kids.

Nuts?

Who would have thought in 1960 that smoking would be practically banned in public places, that parents who spanked their children (spanked, not 'beat') would be branded as child abusers, or that homosexuality would be taught in the schools as part of 'sex-ed'? Social Security cards still had "Not for identification purposes" written right on them.

32 posted on 05/28/2006 6:18:18 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Cobra64
Interesting that we're tracking our children and at the same time invite illegal aliens into our country.

"We" aren't tracking our children, "they" are attempting to do so. Of course they are inviting illegals into the country as well.

33 posted on 05/28/2006 6:21:43 PM PDT by meyer (A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
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To: Dosa26
Those that dig thier implant out of their right hand will be implanted in their skull in such a way that to remove it will require cutting the surrounding bone...or so I read.

Could be an opportunity for a cottage industry...

34 posted on 05/28/2006 6:22:35 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Could be an opportunity for a cottage industry...



I'm on it!

http://www.blackanddecker.com/ProductGuide/Default.aspx?cpath=1496


35 posted on 05/28/2006 6:24:54 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell
(in my best Donald Pleasance voice):

"Is it safe?"

"Is it safe?"

36 posted on 05/28/2006 6:27:36 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Tucson_AZ

Thats the spirit just like cigarettes and other drugs "By the time a kindergartner gets to sixth grade, they'll get used to it," its okay they'll be used to the injustice...

Whats next dog collars so you can punish kids when the tracker shows kids in inapporiate places?


37 posted on 05/28/2006 6:30:11 PM PDT by Taboo
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To: Smokin' Joe

Ummm, that would be Sir Lawrence Olivier, I believe. For me, the sinister role Olivier had was greatly diminished knowing that he and Danny Kaye used to flit around together and were quite the item.


38 posted on 05/28/2006 6:31:43 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: durasell
Ohhh...
I want my own RFID home removal kit



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39 posted on 05/28/2006 6:33:12 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: meyer

Sheesh. It was a rhetorical pronoun.


40 posted on 05/28/2006 6:41:34 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: HangnJudge

Not so fast - I discovered that holding a Radio Shack bulk tape eraser over my implant turns it into an Orgasmatron like Woody Allen had in "Sleeper". You can amuse yourself ALL DAY with that thing!


41 posted on 05/28/2006 7:00:48 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Cobra64
Sheesh. It was a rhetorical pronoun.

Tis OK - I'm just not wanting to be part of the "we". :)

42 posted on 05/28/2006 7:03:23 PM PDT by meyer (A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

(in my best Donald Pleasance voice):
"Is it safe?"

"Is it safe?"




That would have been Larry "My dear boy, you should try acting" Olivier.


43 posted on 05/28/2006 7:51:05 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Dosa26

I guess I could always stick my head in the microwave or something.


44 posted on 05/28/2006 7:58:42 PM PDT by Ainast
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To: HangnJudge

Call ROTO Rooter, thats the name.
and away go troubles down the drain.
ROTO ROOTER


45 posted on 05/28/2006 8:01:04 PM PDT by Ainast
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To: durasell

and we have the 1000001 reason not to have RFID tags. Thats just gross.


46 posted on 05/28/2006 8:03:00 PM PDT by Ainast
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To: Dumpster Baby

For me, the sinister role Olivier had was greatly diminished knowing that he and Danny Kaye used to flit around together and were quite the item.




Then you'll hate to learn about Marlon Brando and Wally Cox...


47 posted on 05/28/2006 8:03:43 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: ARA

http://www.spychips.com/


48 posted on 05/28/2006 8:08:34 PM PDT by rvoitier ("News is what's suppressed. Everything else is advertising.")
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To: Ainast
and for the
do it yourselfer
Brought to you from Northern Tool


49 posted on 05/28/2006 8:12:16 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Dumpster Baby
Ohhh...
Orgasmotron



And now coming to a doctor near you...

http://www.beecourse.com/info.aspx?action=orgasmatron1
50 posted on 05/28/2006 8:21:37 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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