Skip to comments.Why I Boycotted President Fox(At least one person in Sacramento has some stones!)
Posted on 05/28/2006 5:18:51 PM PDT by kellynla
The President of Mexico, Vicente Fox, spoke to the California State Legislature on Thursday; this while the U.S. Senate was voting on an immigration bill. I chose not to go to the Fox speech. Since many people may misconstrue what occurred, I believe a statement explaining my actions is needed.
I have been in the Legislature for some time, and I have seen many heads of state pass through. The American Republic and its operations are fascinating to these foreign politicians, and addressing the California Legislature is often a high point in many dignitaries' travels.
Appropriate decorum dictates that we as Legislators be polite and treat these visitors with the respect their positions deserve.
However, most of these dignitaries are visiting our country to see it at work, and to talk with government officials to help their businesses trade with businesses in California, or to establish some sort of government to government relationship. They are not usually in this country, and in our state, to lobby Congress or the state for a change in policy.
President Fox's trip had no other purpose. He was in this country addressing Legislative bodies for the sole purpose of trying to change U.S. immigration policy. He has continually complained about our policy, openly questioned the legality of Bush putting National Guard units on the border, and even complained when Governor Schwarzenegger vetoed the bill which would have given California driver's licenses to illegal aliens. Throughout the last several years, he has encouraged his citizens to immigrate to this country illegally, and has, in many ways, benefited from that illegal immigration. When his citizens come to California, our taxpayers pick up their medical bills, pay for their education, food, clothing and housing. In return, these Mexican citizens usually take most of their earnings and send them back to Mexico. The relationship is all to Mexico's benefit, and not much help to California.
"So when President Fox came to California to promote amnesty for the Mexican nationals that have broken our laws, I found his presence here to be arrogant and offensive. Many of the Mexican citizens who come to the United States illegally are the "social problems" of Mexico.
The corruption, the favoritism, the oppressive government has left many of these people in abject poverty, and, if they didn't come to the United States, they would probably start a revolution in Mexico. Fox wants us to relieve the political tension that these social problems would cause.
So why should I sanction this visit? Why should I sit and listen to lies and propaganda meant to influence the legislative passage of a bill in Congress with which I vehemently disagree? We need to enforce our laws first, not listen to the President of Mexico ask us to pay for his social problems. He should go back to Mexico, fix his economy, fix his corrupt government, and quit sending us his social problems.
I couldn't say that to him because he would not meet with us to hear these words. So I greeted him with silence. It wasn't disrespectful. It was protest. It is how I would treat any lobbyist who was pushing me to do something I thought was wrong. More important, it was wrong of the leadership of the California Legislature to aid and abet his lobbying effort.
I wasn't going to sanction it at any level, so I left, and encouraged others to do the same. It was the right thing to do."
Assemblyman Ray Haynes represents the 66th Assembly District, which includes portions of Western Riverside County and Northern San Diego County.
So you'd go and kiss the toes Sr. Pres. Fox?
He was just visiting his Northernmost Territory.
I just asked why it takes "stones" to boycott a speech?
well if you have to ask then you don't have a clue.
and I don't have the time or the inclination to teach you Mexican history including the tons of illegal drugs and millions of illegal aliens that Fox has allowed into CA and America.
Was he under some type of threat before his boycott?
Oh PEER pressure. Is he in highschool?
Because he'll have the race card played on him. Some presidents can't even say the word "illegal"--
I see. So it's a sticks and stones type deal. Got ya.
Until then don't bother trying to steer threads astray OK?
Considering how Bush makes cow's eyes at Vicente, a Republican bucks his leadership by boycotting.
So it wasn't peer pressure? Ok What is the threat he is under from this heroic act?
Just ignore them and work as hard as you can to see that the Senate bill which Presidente Fox likes so much dies a long, slow, painful, public death in the House.
Can you tell me why this boycott toke "stones"?
"Why I Boycotted President Fox" (I was threatened!)
Be sure to show the link with the treat in it.
I'm not in the habit of speaking for others.
That is obvious. What is not so obvious is why, faced with no actual threat, it takes "stones" to boycott a speech.
I did ask her. You jumped into this I didn't ask for that did I?
It's obvious you are not interested in the content of this thread, but seem to be obsessed with "stones".
You might want to get help with that.
Uh, read the article title.
Oh they don't Lurker. They are fun to play with when I have a few extra moments to do so.
This particular one's only purpose here is to sow contention and think about a Politicians stones.
"This is one guy that definitely gets it."
Exactly, too bad W doesn't!
and we won't even get into the TONS OF ILLEGALS DRUGS that Fox allows into California with a wink and a nod!
I'll do it slowly, and highlight the word "content"
It's obvious you are not interested in the content of this thread, but seem to be obsessed with "stones".
Yes, I realize you only see the title, but the content is posted also.
We have already discussed stones, stones being in the title. Stones that belong to a male politician.
There, I hope that stops you from jonesing
Correct. Just "undocumented."
LOL Kid. Thanks. I see now that the article title just contained a bit of hyperbole. That's fine.
In life we quite frequently are blessed with that which we did not ask for and conversely we don't get many of the things we would most dearly like.
It's a conundrum which has bedeviled mankind from our earliest days on the planet. (Sorry you ID folks, it's just a figure of speech.)
Mature adults learn to deal with this and not repeatedly ask petulantly phrased questions over and over again even when it has become painfully obvious to all concerned that no answer will be forthcoming.
I frequently have to explain this fact of life to my 11 year old when he is behaving, well; much like you are now. He is learning to deal with it pretty well. Hopefully some day you will as well.
I bid you good fortune on the road to adulthood.
I see, so you are used to arguing on the level of an 11 year old. That explains a lot.
No! Guys like this are part of the problem. I have been hearing people from San Diego piss and moan for years. Yet, for some reason, they were too timid to take this problem on and have waited for someone else to do it. One of the richest communities in the world can't even fix its own fence. This is a sickness. Intruders running through your back yard at night, what do you do? E.T. phone home.
"Guys like this are part of the problem?"
No guys like your governor's brother are.
Let us know when you move to CA.
Until then, we won't tell you how to deal with people floating on your shores so don't tell us how to deal with illegals crossing the Mexican border. Which you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Borders and illegals are the feds responsibility and because your governor's brother refuses to enforce the laws and secure the borders; the Minuteman Project was formed to help GWB do his job. BTW, we are in the process of building a fence AT OUR COST! A fence that GWB has failed to build!
It certainly does, doesn't it. And right now it seems the most appropriate way to deal with the current situation between you and I.
As I said, best of luck to you on the long, arduous road to being a grown up.
I, for one, will not feed the trolls.
Haynes is one of the best people in the CA legislature. He speaks clearly and without the politically correct garbage we get from even many other Republican politicians. Thanks for sharing the article with us.
Well I guess we ain't going to be bestest buddies anymore. I am truly heart broken.
Was there any other assembly, or senators to refrain from attending? Are they all just a bunch of lemmings. I fully expected Vincent Fox to declare himself president of Alta California. Send our governor packing, and we'd all be leaving our homes, because in Mexico, only Mexicans can own land at least in most of it.
"I see, so you are used to arguing on the level of an 11 year old. That explains a lot."
ya know you came on my thread and posted your lame remark before I even had a chance to post the entire piece; so the only one who needs to grow up is YOU!
If you had bothered to read the ENTIRE PIECE you would have known the answer to your "question." But you obviously weren't interested in information, debate and/or a dialogue.
I gave up on flame baiters like you years ago.
So don't waste my time.
Well he implied in the article that he asked others to join him. He didn't say if any did. It appears to me he didn't get the publicity he wanted so he wrote the article to explain questions that never were asked.
Sorry but you editorial remarks is what brought me to the article. It appeared that he has paid a heavy price for his actions hence the "stones" remark. So far all I see is a guy that wrote an article bringing attention to his own actions. Sounds a bit self serving to me.
Dennis Hollingsworth, Jim Battin, John Benoit, Russ Bogh, Ray Haynes, Tom McClintock, Chuck Devore, all did not attend.
Before you make snide, uninformed remarks do some homework.
Well the article didn't say that did it? I made no snide remarks about the article. I made snide remarks about the editorial comments.
Hence my remark about doing your homework.
"So far all I see is a guy that wrote an article bringing attention to his own actions. Sounds a bit self serving to me."
I would call that a snide, uninformed remark.
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