Skip to comments.Pace: Ongoing Probes Will Yield Facts About Haditha Incident
Posted on 05/29/2006 11:22:01 AM PDT by SandRat
WASHINGTON, May 29, 2006 No good can come of speculation surrounding a Nov. 19 incident in Haditha, Iraq, in which 24 Iraqi civilians, including women and children, were killed in the aftermath of a roadside bomb attack, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said today. Marine Gen. Peter Pace also stressed that investigations into alleged misconduct by U.S. Marines in the incident are not yet complete.
Appearing on CNN's "American Morning" for what was to have been an interview focusing on the nation's Memorial Day observance today, Pace told Miles O'Brien that two investigations are still in progress: one to find out what happened, and another to find out why senior officials were not aware of the misconduct allegations until February.
"We will find out what happened, and we'll make it public," Pace said. "But to speculate right now wouldn't do anybody any good."
Army Lt. Gen. Peter W. Chiarelli, commander of Multinational Corps Iraq, initiated a preliminary investigation Feb. 14 when reporters told U.S. officials about allegations of possible violations of the rules of engagement by Marines. In a March 17 news conference, the general said he had ordered further investigation based on the results of the initial probe.
"I understand it's going to be a couple of more weeks before those investigations are complete, and we should not prejudge the outcome," Pace said today. "But we should, in fact, as leaders, take on the responsibility to get out and talk to our troops and make sure that they understand that what 99.9 percent of them are doing, which is fighting with honor and courage, is exactly what we expect of them."
Marine Corps Commandant Gen. Michael W. Hagee is in Iraq doing just that, the chairman said, "because regardless of where this investigation goes, we want to ensure that our troops understand what's expected of them in combat."
Asked if he suspects that a cover-up at lower levels of command caused the delay between the incident and senior officials becoming aware of possible misconduct, Pace said he doesn't suspect anything, but rather is waiting for the investigation to yield the facts.
"If the allegations, as they're being portrayed in the newspaper, turn out to be valid, then of course there will be charges," he said. "But we don't know yet what the outcome will be. It'll take its course. It will be made public, and we'll all be able to make our own judgments."
"No good can come of speculation surrounding a Nov. 19 incident in Haditha, Iraq..."
Which is probably why Rep. Murtha is flying around the country crowing about war crimes to anyone who will listen. He means no good.
Unlike lowlife Jack Murtha, General Pace not only is giving our military the presumption of innocence, but understands the basic principle of American law.
May God bless all our military on this Memorial Day.
I'd like to draw his Marine Saber from it's scabbard as Mush-Mouth Murtha stood at attention, snap the blade across my knee, hold the two pieces in my left hand spit on them and toss both pieces away. That's the insult I'd like to give Mush-Mouth Murtha.
May you continue to be so blessed.
Ping for General Pace.
Support Diana Irey for Congress
Make a repeat on Monte-Casino of it you say????
How about that?
Don't listen to ol' "Nuke Mecca" Tommy.
It's a shame we can't find a few politicians, besides Ms. Irey, to make similar statements.
God bless your son for his service, and your family for your sacrifices. Thank you for the details on this tragedy.
His opinion, Coop, and he is entitled to it. For the record, I HAVE NOT speculated anything-only reported accounts as I have read them for discussion. This is my last reply to you--you certainly have a bee in your bonnet WRT my comments. Here's an idea, don't read them.
Thanks for the picture...and thank you son for his service to our country..
I will pray that he comes home safe to you, soon.
Yours is the first post that I have seen about this that says that the Marines supposedly involved in this didn't even KNOW about it until much later???
A lot of this is not making sense...if you are going to believe Murtha, that is.
Gen. PETER PACE is THE Greatest.
Transcript: Gen. PETER PACE on *Fox News Sunday*
I just finished reading a piece by Victor Davis Hansen about what America has accomplished since 9/11...which was refreshing after seeing McCain's mug on TV...
He went on and on about how Rummy had screwed up by not sending in enough troops to Iraq..and how many mistakes he has made, and is continuing to make...blah, blah, blah.
It should be noted that Mr. Murtha publicly accused Gen. Pace of lying. Brave accusation knowing the general cannot publicly criticize a member of Congress. But I imagine he was thinking about Jackie when making these comments.
Saddly it happens to the Cops on the beat as well.
Those who've never heard the buzz of the lead bee, go past their ears or felt it's sting are always the first to cry foul because they know not of that which they speak.
In the day's of hand-wringing sob-sisters (past, present and I'm sad to say in the days yet to come), many elected Representatives of the Republic (notice I didn't say leaders) and Officers of the Republic (pampered, perfumed political, princes instead of Laurel Wreathed Commanders of the Legions) give way to the cries of the host from the Circus-Maximus instead of following Honor.
President Bush has more guts than you and me combined.
Thank God each generation has its heroes willing to step into uniform!
Somehow, I don't think the more than usual killing in Iraq, on OUR Memorial Day, is a coincidence.
Oh, and thanks for letting us know your son is home...I am so very glad to hear that...please thank him for me.
When an E3 infantryman returns fire or is forced to make a split second life or death decision and there is collateral damage we bring in the media, the military lawyers and the antiwar crowd crying for their scalps. This is because our leaders (Bush included) do not have the guts or judgment that we expect from 19 year old soldiers.
If Marines were set up by insurgents, they could be holding the survivors/neighbors 'hostage' Threatening them with some of their jolly little treats.
Of course, the Marines could be guilty...
of trying to save their own lives.
LOL--fine my friend. God Bless our troops--and you.
Needless to say, I don't know what happened in Haditha.
But I'm inclined to give the Marines the benefit of the doubt until something solid appears.
I remember last year when the media tried to nail a Lt. Pantano on similar charges, before he was ultimately exonerated. I would think that the same result is likely here.
My guess as to what happened? They failed in their efforts against Pantano, they're coming back with something else against different men.
Not sure what to make of it yet as haven't found the DOD reply yet.
1) We have already been there longer than WWII.
2) There is no real De-Baathification program. Saddam and his henchmen are still alive.
3) We tolerate, and even promote the religious fanatics and militias that are killing our GIs. Muktada al Sadr is still alive and causing problems
5) I can count of at least 5 public incidents were front line soldiers have had legal actions initiated for combat related incidents.
Peter Pace is awesome.
President Bush does NOT control the rules under which the military operates on the field of battle. There are military codes and military lawyers and the like...you must know that.
The decision WAS made at the highest level, no doubt, to work with the Iraqis that we could work with, as soon as we could do so. It was their country, not ours. We ousted Saddam and killed his sons. Yes, a lot of troubling stuff has happened and will. Like the Ayatollah Sistani for instance, Mr. Big of the Shias, does not want us to Kill Sadr. He believes it would go much worse for us to make him a martyr. So we have listened to his advice, as he has actually done MUCH to help us otherwise.
I am one who agrees with the judgement of the President that we should not have tried to lock down that country under the hammerlock of American force and power. Many people disagree with me and blame the President because we did not go in there and virtually destroy the place and what was left run it like a dictatorship. Fine. Disagree.
But Coop is right. The President has ten times the guts he even needs. You are drawing an unsupported conclusion that his judgement and decisions were due to lack of guts. Really, you just disagree with them.
Nobody is gutless in this little dustup here. But it's too easy to say so from your typewriter on the internet, even when so much about this man absolutely proves otherwise.
Unfortunately, if they are found innocent the real outrage and cries of massive cover-up will start, louder than ever.
That is the wrongness of the media trying what they wish to in the public eye as they are doing.
They have condemned the Marines before anyone actually knows for sure what happened.
You leave out many details. Our troops are allowed to defend themselves, especially when fired upon. Your blanket implication is pretty lame.
I'm sorry you feel betrayed from Vietnam, but I thank you for your service.
The liberals cry about "tainting the jury pool" when it comes to a dubious accusation of rape. However, when it comes to Marines being accused of murder, there is no such concern. Hypocrits is an understatement.
Thanks for reminding me of their previous tangles. :-)