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A Few Years, and Then Another Bush?
new york times ^ | 5/29/06 | ELISABETH BUMILLER

Posted on 05/29/2006 4:00:15 PM PDT by mathprof

Bush III? Or has the dynasty run its course?

Those are the questions some Republicans are asking themselves as political talk bubbles up yet again about President Bush's brother Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida and his interest in the White House. The chief driver of the mini-buzz is the current occupant of the White House, who has said twice this month that his younger brother would make "a great president."

No one, the president included, is suggesting that the younger Bush will run in 2008, and Governor Bush, whose second term is up in January, has adamantly ruled it out.

But Republican Party leaders continue to talk seriously about a continuation of the dynasty, a Bush III administration, with Jeb as a candidate in 2012 or 2016, when the memory of the current president's dismal poll ratings will be less of a factor. That, at least, is what happened the last time around: President George Bush's unpopularity at the end of his term in 1992 did not hurt his eldest son when he ran for president eight years later.

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People close to the Bushes say there are two major factors, political and personal, driving the governor's thinking.

First, Republicans say that running on the heels of what has shaped up to be a dismal second term for his brother would be difficult, if not impossible. Even if President Bush's approval ratings were better, Republicans say that Jeb Bush, for all his political popularity in Florida, would still have to define himself in the shadow of his brother's White House.

"The first question would be, 'What would you do differently than your brother?' " said Tom Rath, a New Hampshire Republican who is close to the Bush family. "And that's a pretty tough race to run."

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushbash; bushdynasty; bushfamily; nevernonotnownotever

1 posted on 05/29/2006 4:00:19 PM PDT by mathprof
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To: mathprof
"A Few Years, and Then Another Bush?"

Sounds like my 957-day bad luck streak with girls in high school.
2 posted on 05/29/2006 4:05:48 PM PDT by jdm
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To: mathprof

No.


3 posted on 05/29/2006 4:08:18 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Deport the United States Senate)
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To: jdm

Yuck.


4 posted on 05/29/2006 4:11:00 PM PDT by Borges
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To: mathprof

I think not..


5 posted on 05/29/2006 4:13:29 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: mathprof
A few years? I'm thinkin' ten minutes, tops.

6 posted on 05/29/2006 4:15:51 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: mathprof

7 posted on 05/29/2006 4:18:17 PM PDT by deport
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To: mathprof

Just to get anyone's attention, Jeb would have to announce
his candidacy from atop a new oil platform off the FL coast,
with pump prices already down to $1.75. But there aren't any
such platforms, and none seem likely while he is gov.


8 posted on 05/29/2006 4:19:44 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: mathprof

The rest of the GOP field would have to look pretty bleak. If I wanted a royal family, I'd choose another country.


9 posted on 05/29/2006 4:19:50 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: jdm

The Cal Ripken, Jr. of not scoring, eh?


10 posted on 05/29/2006 4:20:53 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: mathprof

Once upon a time, I would have liked to see Jeb Bush run for President, but with his stands on the illegal alien issue, I no longer wish that.


11 posted on 05/29/2006 4:23:53 PM PDT by hunter112 (Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
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To: mathprof

Jeb Bush would have been a better president than George W. Bush. Unfortunately, it was not to be.

GWB did very well his first term, but his second term has been a series of disasters. His base has been kicked in the face repeatedly, and while he has accomplished many good things during his time in office, he has seemingly been determined to screw up ever since he was reelected, with a strong mandate that he never used.


12 posted on 05/29/2006 4:24:18 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: mathprof

People forget why they didn't like the first President Bush because there was nothing particularly wrong with him. The media successfully drives down the approval ratings of Republican Presidents, but it is only artificial. After four years of President AlGore reinventing himself every five minutes, people will say, gee those Bushes sure are better than these Damnocrats.


13 posted on 05/29/2006 4:26:52 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Cicero

Base, smashe.


14 posted on 05/29/2006 4:28:15 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: mathprof

He'll have a better chance in 2016.


15 posted on 05/29/2006 4:28:24 PM PDT by opinionator
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To: mathprof
It might be WOULD BE hilarious to watch the wailing on FR if nothing else....
16 posted on 05/29/2006 4:28:25 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - WTFO)
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To: NutCrackerBoy

I have forgotten nothing. Bush was good at the war in Iraq but a lousy politician and at heart a Rockefeller Republican. His son, who can thank Karl Rove for making him into presidential candidate, has been a tiger in the War on Terror but has a tin ear for politics. Like the Adams family, the Bush family deserves no successor. Let us hope for the sake of the Conservative movement that the Bush dynasty ends forever in 2008.


17 posted on 05/29/2006 4:35:11 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: mathprof

The only way that Jeb is ever going to be President is if the Dems take control of the White House and screw things up royally--so much so that the American look back at George W's Presidency with nostalgia. I guess the NYT has little faith in the Dems, if they are running this article.


18 posted on 05/29/2006 4:40:10 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: BW2221

It already does look bleak. The only one I can think I would vote for is Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama.


19 posted on 05/29/2006 4:40:59 PM PDT by Racer1
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To: jdm

Actually, JEB is uniquely different from his brother and his father and in his own right would make a good executive. He's a great orator, clear decision-maker, and strong leader. However, he has baggage in his wife and children that the best PR would have problems selling.


20 posted on 05/29/2006 4:43:14 PM PDT by MHT
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To: jdm
Sounds like my 957-day bad luck streak with girls in high school.

 

You took the, uh, words right out of my mouth.

21 posted on 05/29/2006 4:46:17 PM PDT by Fintan (Nár lagaí Dia do lámh!)
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To: mathprof

I don't think so. I think the country, even those who like the Bush family, have a little Bush Fatigue and it will carry over into 2012.


22 posted on 05/29/2006 4:49:27 PM PDT by no dems ("A billion here a billion there; before you know it, you've spent a lot of money" Ev Dirksen)
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To: mathprof

No!!!!!


24 posted on 05/29/2006 4:56:52 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: mathprof

Viva la Bush Family!


25 posted on 05/29/2006 4:56:53 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: Cicero

Doubt he would have been any different on the border.


26 posted on 05/29/2006 4:57:35 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: NutCrackerBoy
41 proved that American's don't like being lied to. Though it didn't seem to matter with Clinton -- guess that shows the difference in lying about taxes or lying about sex.

I think more than the no new taxes statement it was statements showing him to be out of touch with the general public that did the most damage.

27 posted on 05/29/2006 5:00:54 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: friendlyadvice
I've heard him speak. He's really marvelous. He has also gotten very good at managing crises due to his hurricane experience. However, his wife lied on a customs report and ended up paying almost $20,000 in fines over bringing back designer clothes from Europe. His daughter Noelle is a hopeless drug addict, complete with jail time for stealing. George Pierce (his handsome-as-heck son) has been in trouble for fist-fighting with his old-girlfriend's-new-boyfriend. With distractions like those, who cares about the father and brother and who would have time to listen to a speech?
28 posted on 05/29/2006 5:02:08 PM PDT by MHT
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To: MHT

His wife, his daughter, his son, his daddy, his brother. Hey, show me a family without problems. There have been great men with lousy sons and great men with lousy fathers. There have been great men with horrible wives and daughters. If we are going to start electing people to office based on their relatives I daresay there will be no one qualified to run.

Anyone remember how the Democrats called Jeb "the smart Bush" during the first election?


29 posted on 05/29/2006 5:14:08 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: BW2221
If I wanted a royal family, I'd choose another country.

Now that would make a great bumper sticker.

30 posted on 05/29/2006 5:20:54 PM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: mathprof
"The first question would be, 'What would you do differently than your brother?'

Call it amnesty?

Will there be an America left or will it be sold?

31 posted on 05/29/2006 5:39:06 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!!!)
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To: MHT

Jeez,Jeb's immediate family sounds almost as trashy as Jimmy Carter's was.


32 posted on 05/29/2006 5:57:00 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: Farmer Dean

After READ MY LIPS and VIVA LA MEXICO nobody in their right mind would trust anyone with the Bush name again. If GW was up for reelection today I wouldn't vote for him.


33 posted on 05/29/2006 6:06:36 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: mathprof
I hope not. The first Bush was a disappointment and a RINO. Bush II is becoming a huge disappointment to me over issues like spending and the borders and it is becoming more and more clear every day that he is an elitist RINO like his father. I don't think true Conservatives will allow ourselves to be had a third time and let a third one into office. I'm sorry I every gave money and time to get either of them into office. I will activity oppose any future Bush in the primaries.
34 posted on 05/29/2006 11:10:21 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: pepperdog

One problematic relative is good--proves you're like the rest of America. Two or three in your immediate family makes you look too dysfunctional.


35 posted on 05/30/2006 12:09:41 PM PDT by MHT
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To: mathprof
In 2008, John Edwards is elected the 44th President of the United States. After an economic recession and a fiasco in the Middle East, America decides to elect Jeb Bush in 2012 as the 45th President of the United States.


36 posted on 10/19/2006 1:25:45 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: mathprof

Not Neil?


37 posted on 10/19/2006 1:29:21 AM PDT by endthematrix (“Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence.”)
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To: mathprof

Not Neil?


38 posted on 10/19/2006 1:29:21 AM PDT by endthematrix (“Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence.”)
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To: endthematrix

Wasn't Neil involved in a scandal a couple years ago?


39 posted on 10/19/2006 1:42:30 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Not really. He had a messy divorce that the MSM exposed. He was/is in the semiconductor industry and IIRC, has some connection to China business interests. If there are any scandals others know then they can reply to us.
40 posted on 10/19/2006 8:36:35 PM PDT by endthematrix (“Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence.”)
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