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Mysterious Arctic skull raises questions about what animals once roamed North
CNews ^ | 30 May 2006 | JOHN THOMPSON

Posted on 05/30/2006 11:20:11 PM PDT by Marius3188

IQALUIT, Nunavut (CP) - A mysterious skull discovered on the edge of the Arctic Circle has sparked interest in what creatures roamed Baffin Island in the distant past, and what life a warming climate may support in the future.

Andrew Dialla, a resident of Pangnirtung, Nunavut, says he found the skull protruding from the frozen tundra during a walk near the shore with his daughter about a month ago.

The horned skull is about the size of a man's fist. It resembles a baby caribou skull, except at that age, a caribou wouldn't have antlers, researchers and elders have pointed out.

Its discovery has caused a stir in Canada's Eastern Arctic. Pictures of the skull, sent over e-mail, have prompted residents to speculate whether the skull might belong to a long-extinct deer or sheep that inhabited the land millions of years ago when the climate was much warmer.

Meanwhile, Dialla is considering shipping the skull south to be examined by Richard Harrington, a distinguished retired paleontologist from Ottawa's Museum of Nature.

Harrington has spent over a decade helping to excavate an ancient beaver pond on Ellesmere Island in Canada's High Arctic. That site, estimated to be four million years old, contained the remains of a now-extinct species of beaver, as well as vanished species of deer, horses, wolverines and bears.

This April, researchers announced another big discovery on Ellesmere Island - a strange creature, part fish and part alligator, which could have been the first to crawl from the oceans to shore 375 million years ago.

But little similar research has been conducted in the region where Dialla's mystery skull was unearthed, according to Mary Ellen Thomas, manager of the Nunavut Research Institute.

Several years ago, a fossilized stump of a tree did turn up near Pangnirtung, well above the tree-line, she said.

She hopes the buzz surrounding the skull could lead to more finds.

"This will perhaps interest people in south Baffin. That's good."

One thing Thomas and her colleagues do find themselves doing is fielding many phone calls from Arctic inhabitants who have spotted unfamiliar species of birds and insects such as wasps, previously unknown so far north.

Warm weather that researchers link to climate change continues to break records in the Arctic as more-southern species venture farther north.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: arcticcircle; baffinisland; climatewarming; cryptozoology; godsgravesglyphs; skull; thevikings; vikings
Link has a photo of the skull.
1 posted on 05/30/2006 11:20:13 PM PDT by Marius3188
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To: Marius3188

There's an interesting theory that explains these types of findings by the possibility of a polar shift -- the crust of the earth moving from temperate latitudes to the poles from time to time.


2 posted on 05/30/2006 11:23:06 PM PDT by servantoftheservant
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To: Marius3188
Pictures of the skull, sent over e-mail, have prompted residents to speculate whether the skull might belong to a long-extinct deer or sheep that inhabited the land millions of years ago when the climate was much warmer.

Hey why not, "scientists" do it all the time.

4 posted on 05/30/2006 11:24:21 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: servantoftheservant

In Velikovsky's Worlds in Collision, he basically says that meteor or astroid strikes (or near strikes) may have knocked the earth of its axis in fairly short and violent order.


5 posted on 05/30/2006 11:27:25 PM PDT by umgud (FR, NASCAR & 24, way too much butt time)
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To: servantoftheservant

The earth constantly changes and Al Gore figures it is something bran new.


6 posted on 05/30/2006 11:29:02 PM PDT by Tut
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To: PatrickHenry

ping.


7 posted on 05/30/2006 11:31:11 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Marius3188

I think it is a Jackalope

Seriously, it is probably one of many species wiped out by Global cooling. You can do your part to combat global cooling by buying an SUV today.


8 posted on 05/30/2006 11:32:29 PM PDT by NavVet (O)
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To: Marius3188

Sounds like the Arctic Chupacabra.


9 posted on 05/30/2006 11:34:49 PM PDT by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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To: Marius3188

Hilarious article! The last line is a capper- "Warm weather that researchers link to the climate change continues to break records in the artic as more southern species venture farther north." What do newly discovered fossils have to do with such a proclamation? Damn- I just may have outlived, my own stupidity- then again...?


10 posted on 05/30/2006 11:44:05 PM PDT by Treader (Human convenience is always on the edge of a breakthrough, or a sellout)
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To: umgud

Lets hear it for Velikofsky.


11 posted on 05/30/2006 11:44:41 PM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: Marius3188
There are all kind of crazy creatures showing up these days! Global warming?


12 posted on 05/31/2006 12:21:57 AM PDT by Defiant (You have to earn American citizenship. You may not steal it. Ask those vets its value.)
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A mysterious skull (shown) discovered on the edge of the Arctic Circle has sparked interest in what creatures roamed Baffin Island in the distant past, and what life a warming climate may support in the future. (CP/HO/Uqqurmiut Centre for Arts and Crafts)

13 posted on 05/31/2006 12:29:10 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: umgud
"In Velikovsky's Worlds in Collision, he basically says that meteor or astroid strikes (or near strikes) may have knocked the earth of its axis in fairly short and violent order."

Velikovsky was a kook. He also wrote a book "Twelfth Planet (I think)" that contends that there is a planet in an excentric orbit that brings it close to earth every 10,000 years. The inhabitants of this planet visit us at that time. They are Von Daniken's gods in space-ships. Velikovsky, like Von Daniken, never worries about evidence, or science when it comes to proposing his theories."

14 posted on 05/31/2006 12:49:26 AM PDT by bessay
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To: Marius3188

Global warming, global cooling...

Darned cave men.


15 posted on 05/31/2006 1:34:01 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: I got the rope; Junior; Coyoteman

Bones!


16 posted on 05/31/2006 3:42:03 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: monkapotamus

Anyone knows what that is! It's an old Viking helmet.


17 posted on 05/31/2006 4:41:18 AM PDT by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: servantoftheservant

This could be the cause for current climate change. Who are they going to blame this on?


18 posted on 05/31/2006 5:19:24 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: Marius3188
"This April, researchers announced another big discovery on Ellesmere Island - a strange creature, part fish and part alligator, which could have been the first to crawl from the oceans to shore 375 million years ago."

It's no telling where this land mass was 375 million years ago, someone knows but I don't. It was only 120 million years ago that Africa was still attached to South America. So...

19 posted on 05/31/2006 5:54:50 AM PDT by blam
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To: bessay
Velikovsky, like Von Daniken, never worries about evidence, or science when it comes to proposing his theories."

If I remember correctly, he used ancient folklore and legend along with his brand of scientific investigation to come up with his hypothesies. Kook that he was, he did raise some interesting thought and possibilities. BTW, I'm not a subscriber to his views, but don't discount everything he wrote. I didn't read Twelfth Planet.

20 posted on 05/31/2006 6:32:58 AM PDT by umgud (FR, NASCAR & 24, way too much butt time)
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To: Marius3188
a long-extinct deer or sheep that inhabited the land millions of years ago when the climate was much warmer.

So for millions of years the earth has been undergoing global COOLING?

21 posted on 05/31/2006 9:42:13 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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Thanks scpg2 for the ping. A catastrophism topic (and thanks umgud for your post).

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Catastrophism

22 posted on 05/31/2006 7:39:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: bessay
Velikovsky was a kook. He also wrote a book "Twelfth Planet (I think)" that contends that there is a planet in an excentric orbit that brings it close to earth every 10,000 years. The inhabitants of this planet visit us at that time. They are Von Daniken's gods in space-ships. Velikovsky, like Von Daniken, never worries about evidence, or science when it comes to proposing his theories.
None of that is correct.
23 posted on 05/31/2006 7:41:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: monkapotamus

Those horns don't look familiar, can't think of what they might resemble.


24 posted on 05/31/2006 7:53:37 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Learning to shrug is the beginning of wisdom)
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To: SunkenCiv
The fossil forest on Axel Heiberg Island in the Canadian High Arctic, discovered in 1985 by the Geological Survey of Canada, is a unique site due to the amount of exposed tree material — some of which is 40 million years old, and dates from the Eocene period. On hillside terraces formed by glacial rivers and the action of wind on thawed soil, tree stumps up to several metres in diameter poke through the forest floor detritus. The site is 1 km long x 5 km wide, and is located near 80o north latitude.

Geologists have discovered in Antarctica the remains of three ancient deciduous forests complete with fossils of fallen leafs scattered around the tree trunks. The clusters of petrified tree stumps were found upright in the original living positions they held during the Permian period.


25 posted on 05/31/2006 8:02:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: monkapotamus
Could be a goat?
26 posted on 05/31/2006 8:41:41 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: bessay; umgud

a kook, eh? So also thought Carl Sagan (and trumpeted constantly, thereby adding to the hue-and-cry from the rest of the scientific community thus labelling Velikovsky). Sagan also averred that the Earth's geological evolution was a benign one free of any impacts from stellar objects.

Yet today we see specials on the History Channel, or Discovery, about the science of Catastrophism, which was what Velikovsky maintained.

Yes he did come up with some weird stuff, but it's always interesting to me how often and continually the metaphoric "Pharisees unite against the upstart" paradigm appears amongst our (self-anointed...) intelligentsia... and how little credit if any is given to the Velikovsky's of the world when something does prove viable.


27 posted on 06/01/2006 6:57:56 AM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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