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Time: if you oppose illegal immigration, you might be a Nazi
Hot Air ^ | 5/30/2005 | Allahpundit

Posted on 05/31/2006 4:36:50 AM PDT by Jameison

Time: if you oppose illegal immigration, you might be a Nazi, or a Klansman, or maybe even a member of the Minutemen. And to think Kaus thought the media was going to line up with the Senate against the House. You’re too young to be so cynical, Mickey. A quick check of the Time archives reveals no mentions whatsoever of “MEChA,” let alone the fact that the lieutenant governor of California and the mayor of Los Angeles once belonged to the organization. If you can find any, let me know and I’ll update here. Meanwhile, it’s a very special edition of Newsweek as Evan Thomas and company spin a heartwarming tale of love and laughter inside the White House. Who knew that immigrants can be perfectly nice, hardworking people? Erase those borders pronto!

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The drive-by media get more irrelevant and out of touch by the minute, even as their capacity to display bias and spew out anti-conservative loony left bile keeps growing.
These days, its getting increasingly harder to see any difference between the lunatics at DU/Kos/moveon, and Time Magazine's, Newsweek's of the world.


Link to Time the moonbat Time article in question:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1198895,00.html?promoid=rss_top

1 posted on 05/31/2006 4:36:54 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Jameison

And if you favor Socialism, you might be a Stalinists. And if you oppose the boy scouts, you might be a pedophile.


2 posted on 05/31/2006 4:39:30 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Jameison

Once again, when you can't win an anrgument on merit (or facts, FFS), throw out terms like "racist", "facist", "Nazi" and "xenophobe."


3 posted on 05/31/2006 4:40:28 AM PDT by Disturbin (Hey Hey, Ho Ho, The Illegals Have to GO)
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To: Jameison

"...its getting increasingly harder to see any difference between the lunatics at DU/Kos/moveon, and Time Magazine's, Newsweek's of the world."

I see zero difference.


4 posted on 05/31/2006 4:40:38 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: Jameison

If the citizens of Mexico oppose illegal immigration would that make them nazis?


5 posted on 05/31/2006 4:43:48 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Always Right
Ha! If you favor socialism you might be a Nazi. That's what Nazi means after all, isn't it? National Socialism?
6 posted on 05/31/2006 4:44:22 AM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: Always Right

Typical leftist tactic--if someone doesn't think like you do, resort to name calling.


7 posted on 05/31/2006 4:47:11 AM PDT by Ptaz (Take Personal Responsibility--it's not fun, but it's the right thing to do.)
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To: Jameison
time?

who dat?

8 posted on 05/31/2006 4:47:16 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Enterprise
"If the citizens of Mexico oppose illegal immigration would that make them nazis?"

No "if's".
The citizens of Mexico DO oppose illegal immigration, and have very strong laws against even legal immigrants.I am yet to see Time Magazine devote any time calling them Nazis.
Come to think of it, I am yet to see Time Magazine call the REAL Nazis of "MEChA" and "LaRaza" Nazis either.
9 posted on 05/31/2006 4:48:35 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Jameison

When they can't win on the merits, they call us names.


10 posted on 05/31/2006 4:49:25 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (John Spencer: Fighting to save America from Hillary Clinton..)
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To: From One - Many
"time?
who dat?"

Oh they are a rag that USED to be relevant.
11 posted on 05/31/2006 4:49:52 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Jameison

Isn't Time Magazine owned by Time Warner...who also owns CNN!!!!!!!


12 posted on 05/31/2006 4:51:45 AM PDT by mo
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To: Jameison
"time?
who dat?"

They're a large manufacturer of kitty litter-box liner and birdcage liner.

13 posted on 05/31/2006 4:52:38 AM PDT by Allegra (Thread Hijacker Extraordinaire)
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To: Jameison

Alright, everyone; Sig !


14 posted on 05/31/2006 4:52:40 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Jameison
"There is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it. There is, above all, genuine, revolutionary feeling, which is alive everywhere in Russia except where there are Jewish Marxists. I have always made allowance for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once. The petit bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never make a National Socialist, but the Communists always will."

(Quoted in Hermann Rauschning, Hitler Speaks, London, T. Butterworth, 1940)

We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic
economic system for the exploitation of the economically
weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly
evaluation of a human being according to wealth and
property instead of responsibility and performance, and we
are all determined to destroy this system under all
conditions"

(Adolf Hitler, Speech of May 1, 1927. Quoted by Toland, 1976, p. 306)
15 posted on 05/31/2006 4:53:00 AM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: Jameison; DBeers; little jeremiah

Ressner's past writings show that he has spent over decade pushing the gay agenda in America via his articles.

http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?fr=ybr_sbc&p=JEFFREY%20RESSNER%20+%20gay

He is typical of what my tagline points out re the left wing journalists in America.


17 posted on 05/31/2006 4:54:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Jameison
If you work for the MSM in any capacity you just might be a traitor to America.

As a matter of fact, we can probably remove the phrase 'just might be' and replace it with YOU ARE A TRAITOR.

18 posted on 05/31/2006 4:54:37 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Jameison

Any Freeper who subscribes to Time or watches CNN, enables these attacks on Americans.


19 posted on 05/31/2006 4:55:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Grampa Dave
"Ressner's past writings show that he has spent over decade pushing the gay agenda in America via his articles"

Now why am I not surprised?
20 posted on 05/31/2006 4:56:42 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Jameison

Who writes this kind of crap? Is this considered journalism?


21 posted on 05/31/2006 4:58:12 AM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: TSchmereL
"True, it is a fixed idea with the French that the Rhine is their property, but to this arrogant demand the only reply worthy of the German nation is Arndt's: "Give back Alsace and Lorraine". For I am of the opinion, perhaps in contrast to many whose standpoint I share in other respects, that the reconquest of the German-speaking left bank of the Rhine is a matter of national honour, and that the Germanisation of a disloyal Holland and of Belgium is a political necessity for us. Shall we let the German nationality be completely suppressed in these countries, while the Slavs are rising ever more powerfully in the East?"

another quote from the same author:

"This is our calling, that we shall become the templars of this Grail, gird the sword round our loins for its sake and stake our lives joyfully in the last, holy war which will be followed by the thousand-year reign of freedom."

--Written by Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx's co-author.
22 posted on 05/31/2006 4:58:36 AM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: Jameison; DBeers; little jeremiah; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Whenever, you see an article like this or a hate our President and other Americans do a Yahoo search on the writer. Enter his/her/its name + gay. The results are amazing.


23 posted on 05/31/2006 4:59:04 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Always Right
And if you favor Socialism, you might be a Stalinists. And if you oppose the boy scouts, you might be a pedophile...

wtf...?

24 posted on 05/31/2006 4:59:24 AM PDT by martin gibson
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To: Allegra
oh I understand now, they are unworthy of wiping a human's butt.
25 posted on 05/31/2006 4:59:29 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: TSchmereL

Interesting quotes and describes the liberals and the illegals from mexico to a "T".


26 posted on 05/31/2006 5:04:43 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: Jameison

The democrats will demagogue the illegal thing, to the destruction of our great country, just to get in power.

The decision on immigration belongs to the people.

The people MUST vote on this.

IMO Bush should halt all immigration and all citizenship, and call for a nation wide vote.

An issue this important should not be demagogued by politicians for political advantage.


27 posted on 05/31/2006 5:05:13 AM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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To: tkathy

Indeed. The traitors are coming out of the woodworks.


28 posted on 05/31/2006 5:10:01 AM PDT by WayneM ( Sneaking in is NOT immigration...............................Cut the KRAP (Kare Rove Amnesty Plan).)
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To: Jameison

Note to TIME:

If you support illegal imigration you might be a terrorist.


29 posted on 05/31/2006 5:10:36 AM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque
Don't forget that FR's contingent of RINOs and psuedo-conservatives regards Time, Newsweek, and the rest of the drive by media as a reliable news source, while characterizing truly conservative news sources as "extremist" and "kooky".
30 posted on 05/31/2006 5:15:18 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Allegra
They're a large manufacturer of kitty litter-box liner and birdcage liner.

It's even useless for that as it has glossy pages.

31 posted on 05/31/2006 5:25:45 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: martin gibson
wtf...?

What's not to understand? You haven't seen the homosexual pedophile crowd boo the boy scouts?

32 posted on 05/31/2006 5:27:36 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Jameison

There are a LOT of Kluckers and Nazis trying to jump onto the bandwagon.

The only way to keep them off is for those legitimately on the bandwagon to be watchful and kick them off as necessary.

"The price of peace is eternal vigilance."


33 posted on 05/31/2006 5:30:22 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: stopem
"True, it is a fixed idea with the French that the Rhine is their property, but to this arrogant demand the only reply worthy of the German nation is Arndt's: "Give back Alsace and Lorraine". For I am of the opinion, perhaps in contrast to many whose standpoint I share in other respects, that the reconquest of the German-speaking left bank of the Rhine is a matter of national honour, and that the Germanisation of a disloyal Holland and of Belgium is a political necessity for us. Shall we let the German nationality be completely suppressed in these countries, while the Slavs are rising ever more powerfully in the East?"

--Written by Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx's co-author.

"True, it is a fixed idea with the [Americans] that the [South West] is their property, but to this arrogant demand the only reply worthy of the [Mexican] nation is ["Give back Texas and California"]. For I am of the opinion, perhaps in contrast to many whose standpoint I share in other respects, that the reconquest of the [Spanish]-speaking [North] bank of the [Rio Grande] is a matter of national honour, and that the [Mexic]anisation of a disloyal [Texas and California] is a political necessity for us. Shall we let the [Mexican] nationality be completely suppressed in these countries, while the [Columbians] are rising ever more powerfully in the [South]?"

Rewritten for MEChA from work by Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx's co-author.

Who are the Nazis?
34 posted on 05/31/2006 5:37:53 AM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: Jameison
The Nazi card as well as the race card?
I never realized that a discussion of the word "illegal" was that complicated.
35 posted on 05/31/2006 5:49:34 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Jameison; All

I happen to know someone who is basically conservative on any topic that she really thinks about, but sadly she just doesn't pay much attention to politics or think too much about problems with the media. She just can't conceive of a group as large and accepted as the mainstream media being evil or corrupt on the whole. But in spite of her talent for living in denial she always responds well to real proof and generally well to clear thinking logic. I just have to catch her when she is in the right mood to talk seriously.

So for the sake of my sneaky little campaign to convince her that the mainstream media really is as bad as I know it is, I would love it if one of y'all had time to find some of the factual errors that probably exist in this article and/or outline some of the other problems with it.


36 posted on 05/31/2006 5:49:49 AM PDT by fromscratchmom
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To: Jameison
Yeh, wait until the employees at Time are replaced by illegals. That'll change their tune. Tiempo?
37 posted on 05/31/2006 5:50:01 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: Wallace T.

I see them all the time, posting that superfluous crap. I've lost count, in my short time here.


38 posted on 05/31/2006 6:02:26 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: Jameison
Time: if you oppose illegal immigration, you might be a Nazi

like time has any room to talk about nazis, especially using that word as derogatory. time magazine listed adolf hitler as man of the year in 1938.
39 posted on 05/31/2006 6:02:51 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Jameison

I'm ambivalent about it. Can I just be a redneck?


40 posted on 05/31/2006 6:10:12 AM PDT by RichInOC ("What time is it?" "I dunno." "Time...to unpimp ze country!")
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To: Jameison
One is what he writes about Mike Vanderboegh inciting people to throw bricks throught the windows of pro illegal congressmen. Mike Vanderboegh wrote an essay called "The window War" In that the main character comes home after a town hall meeting concerning gun controll. He throws a brick with a message on it to obey the constitution. This action spreads. It is aimed at gun control, nothing to do with illegals. In fact it was written in the late 1990's.

So, this time writer is fall of it.

41 posted on 05/31/2006 6:15:52 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Allegra
They're [Time] a large manufacturer of kitty litter-box liner and birdcage liner."

No self-respecting "Viking kitty" would step into a litter box with TIME as the liner---it would stink too badly.

43 posted on 05/31/2006 6:25:19 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Jameison

I'd rather be a "Nazi" that a commie pinko accessory to the greatest mass murders in history.
Which describe the Times, purrrrfectly.


44 posted on 05/31/2006 6:31:28 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: Jameison
Another attempt to equate the Minutemen with the "white power" types.

Not surprising. Goebbels said that "If the lie is big enough and told often enough, it will be believed." This is just the media following his advice.

But WE'RE the Nazis. Riiiight.

Time editoral staff, discussing the above-referenced article. (With apologies to Messrs Howard, Fine & Howard - but I'll bet they'd agree that these presstitutes deserve to be mocked)

45 posted on 05/31/2006 7:01:15 AM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: Jameison
When I studied every line of the FTAA treaty I was not satisfied with just that, I wanted to read the mindset, of those putting it together, those supporting it at these meetings, as they discussed how to implement it.

One woman said, "We must give Judges the power to hand down harsher sentences for those "xenophobes" who hold onto old fashioned ideals of nationhood.

In other words people in each nation who may object to being melted into one entity on any level should be labeled xenophobe and face a harsh prison sentence.

So the press is just running ahead of their masters barking out the coming doctrine. One must be a xenophobe if one cherishes his nationhood.

This should trouble all of us with an idea above a cat. These treaties over ride our Constitution, so if arrested don't count on the writ of habeas corpus saving you. A person can be held in prison for years before a charge is even filed against him, and if he wins his case he can be arrested before he leaves the court room and put back in prison.

You may think this is tin foil hat stuff, but I say look no further than Guantanamo Cuba. What is happening to the deserving guilty, can also happen to the innocent victim when the full impact of these treaties and agreements get rolling in full force.

You heard the same thing I did, I'm sure when the illegals were demonstrating in the street. To a man they said the USofA should have no borders.

You have to ask yourself, even if citizens of the USofA are smart enough to make globalist a dirty word and a political career killer, will it make a difference? We have already seen this issue cross party lines, the democrat base is as upset about it as the conservative base, yet both are getting the middle finger from their representatives.

Our representatives have all but said that given the will of the majority of the Western Hemisphere, their majority voice should not be over ridden by the desire of a few million U.S. citizens to hold onto their sovereignty and nationhood. That's undemocratic to ignore the will of the majority, even though they are outside our borders and not citizens of this "area".

I don't read tea leaves, but I suspect the Democrats that are pushing globalism are also going to get a backlash at the polls from their base. The issue is so danged important on such an instinctual gut level, that it's going to be interesting.

The upcoming November elections may turn out to be the most interesting over throw on so many levels, both Republican and Democrat.

46 posted on 05/31/2006 7:35:59 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: tkathy
"IMO Bush should halt all immigration and all citizenship, and call for a nation wide vote. "

Sounds like a good idea to me.
A national referendum on immigration.
47 posted on 05/31/2006 8:09:19 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Jameison
That is my understand also. So, I'll expand the question a bit. If almost all nations have border security and if most of the people in other nations oppose illegal immigration, will Time refer to these people as Nazis also, and if not, why does Time insist upon reserving that term for the people of a nation which militarily fought the Nazis and whose citizens still overwhelmingly consider Nazism anathema? Of course I can make a small case for Time. Things like racial quotas, race based hiring and promotion policies, and race based University admissions programs sound a bit Naziesque don't they?
48 posted on 05/31/2006 8:29:43 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Thanks, Grampa Dave! It is uncanny how the same ***holes are behind all the same junk.


49 posted on 05/31/2006 8:40:57 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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