Tiger Woods: Bill Clinton Cheats at Golf, Too

NewsMax ^ | 1 June 2006

[Aussie Dasher]

In Arkansas for a children's golf clinic, Tiger Woods was asked about playing golf with former President Bill Clinton.

"Interesting math," Woods said, drawing a laugh before telling a story about a round the two played in February before the opening of the Tiger Woods Learning Center in Anaheim, Calif.

Woods described a hole on the back nine.

"President Clinton rolls one in the bushes, then hits another one off the tee ... right in the middle of the fairway, hits a nice little wedge shot up there to about, I don't know, 6-7 feet.

"I hit a bad pitch, I blasted it by about 12 feet. ... Then all of the sudden, he does one of these," Woods said, gesturing like a player picking up his ball.

"It was 6-7 feet and he walked off the green. ... So I'm sitting in the cart. He's writing down the numbers, I happen to kind of ..." Woods said, leaning back as if reading a scorecard over someone's shoulder.

"Woods 4, Clinton 3."

On a more serious note, Woods said playing with Clinton was fascinating.

"We had a good time," Woods said. "He was a cool person to play with, very intelligent. Brilliant, the things that he knew to describe world politics ... actually really remarkable."

[Aussie Dasher]

BJ cheats at EVERYTHING....

[Vision]

No surprise to me.

[Publius]

Golfers who play 18 holes with Clinton no longer use the term "mulligan".

They're called "billigans" now.

[snarks_when_bored]

It ain't a game if you cain't cheat...

[cincinnati65]

I'm sure the "hole I beat Tiger Woods" will be all the rage on the cocktail circuit. Kind of reminds me of Kim Jung Il in North Korea. Somewhere I read he claimed to shoot a 24 for 18 holes, or some ridiculous number like that.

[rockabyebaby]

This is HUGH and SERIES!!!

I'm SHOCKED, SHOCKED I tell ya!

[bilhosty]

That is not the first time. My former boss at work knows a person who was playing gold at the same course Clinton was playing at when he was President. He hit a ball into the rough and went to get it and their was President Clinton standing beside his ball. Clinton smiled said, "that is my ball" and pulled out another one from his pocket and said, "that is your ball." My boss's friend made the comment, "he cheats at golf to".

[John D]

No surprise to me.



The surprise is that Tiger had the courage to mention it. I can see another Arkincide in the making. Clinton will not like this.

[razorback-bert]

I had someone who doesn't play golf, ask me why so many businessmen played.

My reply was is the best game to show you, your opponents character.

[PISANO]

I find it a bit difficult to believe that a 'competitor' like Tiger Woods thinks it is COOL to play with such an OBVIOUS CHEATER!

Think about the diseased EGO necessary to play a round of golf with TIGER WOODS and CHEAT openly.

[operation clinton cleanup]

I'm sure the "hole I beat Tiger Woods" will be all the rage on the cocktail circuit.

Exactly. I would personally like to see OJ Simpson play Bill Clinton in an 18 hole pay per view round... The BJ/OJ shootout!

[wideminded]

There was an interesting show on C-SPAN2 recently in which the author of a book on golf-playing presidents (there have been 13 or 14 or them), read from his book and answered questions. He said that one of his chapters, which covered 4 presidents, was called "Hail to the Cheats". Clinton was one of the four cheaters. Another IIRC was Nixon; I forget the other two.

[BunnySlippers]

[TommyDale]

Back during the White House Travel Office scandal, there was a story about Clinton cheating at golf. In fact, one of his White House staffers was using a helicopter and other White House rewources to go golfing. If I recall correctly, he resigned.

[Jackknife]

[lepton]

Go back to when he first took office. He got caught cheating Chelsea in miniature golf.

[BenLurkin]

This actually has been known for some time.

At a minimum he was notorious for taking frequent "mulligans".

[Glenn]

I'm surprised Clinton hasn't sold the scorecard on eBay.

[cincinnati65]

I can see it now.....Clinton pulls this stunt on the 12th and disappears in the rough on the 13th. A nationally televised low speed chase on electric golf carts, with Al "Big Caddy" Cowlings driving.

[spinestein]

I absolutely LOVE this article because it illustrates how dishonest salespeople can nevertheless charm people into buying nearly anything. First Tiger Woods tells us how he witnesses President Clinton blatantly cheat:

[Woods described a hole on the back nine. "President Clinton rolls one in the bushes, then hits another one off the tee ... right in the middle of the fairway, hits a nice little wedge shot up there to about, I don't know, 6-7 feet. "I hit a bad pitch, I blasted it by about 12 feet. ... Then all of the sudden, he does one of these," Woods said, gesturing like a player picking up his ball. "It was 6-7 feet and he walked off the green. ... So I'm sitting in the cart. He's writing down the numbers, I happen to kind of ..." Woods said, leaning back as if reading a scorecard over someone's shoulder. "Woods 4, Clinton 3."]


Then Woods tells us how charming Clinton was:

["We had a good time," Woods said. "He was a cool person to play with, very intelligent. Brilliant, the things that he knew to describe world politics ... actually really remarkable."]




Salespeople know that if they can charm you into liking them, then they can sell you crap-on-a-stick. Remember, politicians are just salespeople, selling public policy in exchange for votes.

[cincinnati65]

"Dang, thanks for the idea"

[Jackknife]

The BJ/OJ shootout!

Damn funny !

[madison10]

My reply was is the best game to show you, your opponents character.

That's why it's good to go golfing with a prospective pastor. What a rare glimpse into the soul such a golf game can be!

[mort56]

From the tone on this thread you would think Bill and Hill were about power and the money. How can you think such a thing? Don't you remember what he offered this country? Don't you have a clue?

He....oh, yeah...now I remember. Never mind!

[isom35]

maybe they could turn Ft. Marcy park into a golf course.

[spinestein]

If how you keep score in golf is the best way to show your character, then what does it say about me that I've never kept score (to the annoyance of my friends whom I'm playing with, who are usually very competitive). I play about 4 or 5 times a year and never take mulligans, move the ball etc.. I just have fun playing the ball from where it lands without being distracted by having to remember how many strokes it took to make it into the hole.

[razorback-bert]

I will never make a living as a profreader.

[stuck_in_new_orleans]

I find it a bit difficult to believe that a 'competitor' like Tiger Woods thinks it is COOL to play with such an OBVIOUS CHEATER!

simmma down...this wasnt the Masters, ya know!

[OldFriend]

Tiger is being the politician here. He just had slick willie at the opening of some sort of golf school for children. (at least I think it was some sort of golf school)

[GeorgiaDawg32]

exactly..one of the best rounds of golf I ever played was with my little brother. I hadn't played golf with him in years and years. when I made it to texas with my sticks I told him I'd pay for both of us if neither kept score. it was about fun, family and conversation with no pressure to win.

[operation clinton cleanup]

I can see it now.....Clinton pulls this stunt on the 12th and disappears in the rough on the 13th. A nationally televised low speed chase on electric golf carts, with Al "Big Caddy" Cowlings driving.

LOL! I had not considered that possible turn of events!

[rod1]

A billigan here a billigan there and we are talk'in bout some series cheat'in going on.

[nonsporting]

I glad this wasn't an "exhibition" game. WJC might show us his briefs. Or worse...I can't say it.

[Don_Ret_USAF]

As a Army BRAT, worked at a golf course at Fort Lee VA . We opened at 5:30 AM ea day. A male major signed in and went to the first tee. The golf pro said "bet he posts a 72 today". Sure enough after the Maj returned to the club house he posted a score of 72. So the Pro asked the Maj if he would like to play 18 holes. Major had more excuses then all the chiggers in Va. After the Maj left the Pro said that he had followed the Maj more then once as the Maj played. After the Maj had made 72 strokes he packed it in and returned to the club house. So the Maj was a big laugh around the club house and it members. This was well before Clinton know what a golf club was.

[george76]

[razorback-bert]

I didn't mention keeping score, character comes out by how you honor the game and your opponents.

If someone will cheat at a game , why wouldn't they do the same in a business deal?

[karnage]

Clinton is nothing but another ex-President now. He's no more fearsome than Jimmy Carter.

[ml/nj]

I'm surprised Woods would play with Clinton. Clinton wanted to use Woods for something when he was still in office (maybe to honor a black athlete?) and Woods had the class to tell him, "No, thanks."

ML/NJ

[doodad]

So how do you score balls in water hazards or OB?

[Chode]

do I really have to say it???

[Canedawg]

"What a rare glimpse into the soul such a golf game can be"

Absolutely. You find a lot out about a person after playing 18 with them (including whether they lie and cheat).

[ladyinred]

That is how Bubba conducts his life. It is all about Him. They say OJ Simpson does the same thing.

[Suzy Quzy]

Pathetic!! Tiger can't even come out and say the words..He Lies or He Cheats!! Tiger finds him FASCINATING!! Geesh.

[IonImplantGuru]

If how you keep score in golf is the best way to show your character, then what does it say about me that I've never kept score (to the annoyance of my friends whom I'm playing with, who are usually very competitive). I play about 4 or 5 times a year and never take mulligans, move the ball etc.. I just have fun playing the ball from where it lands without being distracted by having to remember how many strokes it took to make it into the hole.

Nothing at all 'wrong' with that concept! I play 3 times a week, sometimes with other folks, sometimes by myself. If my group wants to play for a little money (dime a hole kinda action) I keep score - an honest score - and I'll keep honest any other player who attempts to 'haul timber' as the old cribbage cheat was called. If there's no money riding on it or I'm playing alone, who cares about the score? I sure don't.

[dennisw]

Too bad Bill Clinton didn't get the sh!t beat out of him a few times in his adult life. It would have brought him down to reality

[EyeGuy]

I completely and unequivocally reject this sentence:

"He was a cool person to play with, very intelligent. Brilliant, the things that he knew to describe world politics ... actually really remarkable."


In the 13 1/2 days back in 1991 that I actually listened to Clinton, before I figured out what he was about, and tuned him out permanently, he NEVER struck me as brilliant or intelligent.

Woods may be a uniquely gifted but he is as naive as any other non-thinking American when it comes to being taken in by the Slimemeister's superficial, faux, oily charm.

[hodaka]

What a shame, not only does Billy boy cheat on his wife but he also cheats on his golf game.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Sounds like Goldfinger.

[1L]

OJ Simpson said this years ago.

[ronnied]

Clinton is nothing but another ex-President now. He's no more fearsome than Jimmy Carter.



i wouldn't take that to the bank just yet....