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Was the 2004 Election Stolen? (by RFKjr)
Rolling Stone ^ | 6/1/06 | ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.

Posted on 06/01/2006 12:06:42 PM PDT by finnman69

Like many Americans, I spent the evening of the 2004 election watching the returns on television and wondering how the exit polls, which predicted an overwhelming victory for John Kerry, had gotten it so wrong. By midnight, the official tallies showed a decisive lead for George Bush -- and the next day, lacking enough legal evidence to contest the results, Kerry conceded. Republicans derided anyone who expressed doubts about Bush's victory as nut cases in ''tinfoil hats,'' while the national media, with few exceptions, did little to question the validity of the election. The Washington Post immediately dismissed allegations of fraud as ''conspiracy theories,''(1) and The New York Times declared that ''there is no evidence of vote theft or errors on a large scale.''(2)

But despite the media blackout, indications continued to emerge that something deeply troubling had taken place in 2004. Nearly half of the 6 million American voters living abroad(3) never received their ballots -- or received them too late to vote(4) -- after the Pentagon unaccountably shut down a state-of-the-art Web site used to file overseas registrations.(5) A consulting firm called Sproul & Associates, which was hired by the Republican National Committee to register voters in six battleground states,(6) was discovered shredding Democratic registrations.(7) In New Mexico, which was decided by 5,988 votes,(8) malfunctioning machines mysteriously failed to properly register a presidential vote on more than 20,000 ballots.(9) Nationwide, according to the federal commission charged with implementing election reforms, as many as 1 million ballots were spoiled by faulty voting equipment -- roughly one for every 100 cast.(10)

(Excerpt) Read more at rollingstone.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2004; chutzpah; clutchingatstraws; conspiracy; conspiracytheory; floridarecount; gwb2004; kennedy; kerrydefeat; ohio; paranoid; rfkjr; robertislosingit; smokethebongrobert
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Ok let's break this out. Kennedy says Republicans prevented 357,000 voters from voting or having their votes counted.

He estimates 174,000 were not able to vote due to long lines. No. 174,000 (a highly inflated number to be sure) potential voters did not vote. End of story. If voters did not wait in line to vote or vote by mail, that's their fault.

72,000 not registered to vote due to registration errors. Again, the reponsibility falls on the voter to confirm they are correctly registered.

30,000 voters purged for not voting in previous elections. If you have not voted in more than two elections, you should verify yourself you are registered to vote.

10,000 voters discarded for standing in the wrong line. Too stupid to be allowed to vote.

5,000 turned away by GOP challengers. If they were turned away, they were not registered or valid voters.

So out of that big dramatic and inflated 357,000 potential voters that leaves 66,000 votes 'lost by 'faulty' voting machines. Even if I was generous and assumed there were some problems with voting machines, I would be the majority of this was due to idiot voters.


Kennedy says 357,000 votes

1 posted on 06/01/2006 12:06:44 PM PDT by finnman69
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To: finnman69


AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEE Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzz Not this Sh@#! Again.

When have the Kennedy's been right on anything in the last forty years?


2 posted on 06/01/2006 12:08:12 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: finnman69

A Kennedy would know a lot about stealing elections.


3 posted on 06/01/2006 12:08:45 PM PDT by Argus
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To: finnman69
Was the 2004 Election Stolen? (by RFKjr)

A better question would be, Was the 1960 Election Stolen? (by JFK)

4 posted on 06/01/2006 12:09:53 PM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: finnman69

LOL. Not this BS again.

They just can't get over it can they?


5 posted on 06/01/2006 12:10:14 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.)
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To: finnman69

Hmmmmmm .....

No mention by Teddy of the absentee military ballots that Kerry tried to get tossed.


6 posted on 06/01/2006 12:10:25 PM PDT by Disturbin (Hey Hey, Ho Ho, The Illegals Have to GO)
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To: finnman69

No. But the 1992 and 1996 elections were.

And so were the 1948, 1960, 1964, and 1976 elections.


7 posted on 06/01/2006 12:10:27 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: finnman69
Lets have a look see at all those Democrat controlled Precincts that turned in 100% Democrat votes Robbie. You scum are the masters at illegal voting. You do NOT want this rock turned over Robbie. WE don't steal elections. We don't have to. You people have a long history of criminal Election Fraud. You better be careful making unsubtatiated, baseless accusations like this Robbie.
8 posted on 06/01/2006 12:11:25 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (I would rather be an Iraqi in a Hidatha guarded by Marines, then a subject of Al-Qeda anywhere.)
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To: finnman69

And here in the Peoples Republic of Wisconsin, we had a few THOUSAND cases of voter fraud.........fortunately they were all in Kerry's favor to it didn't count.

Dims like Kennedy are really frustrated when they cheat to throw an election and they still can't win.


9 posted on 06/01/2006 12:11:33 PM PDT by newcthem (When are our congress-men going to start getting paid in Pesos?)
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To: finnman69

whatever the bad guy accuses you of, he himself is doing, generally.


10 posted on 06/01/2006 12:11:38 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (God might just be bullish on America.)
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To: finnman69

Does the article mention who ran the voting in these suspect districts? Was it all Republicans? I doubt it.


11 posted on 06/01/2006 12:11:54 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: finnman69

... and this little piggy cried 'weee, weee, weee' all the way home.


12 posted on 06/01/2006 12:11:55 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: finnman69

.....must be a slow day at Rolling Stone


Doogle


13 posted on 06/01/2006 12:12:14 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF...8th TFW...Ubon Thailand...408thMMS..."69"...Night Line Delivery...AMMO!!)
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To: finnman69

MY GOD WHY ARE THE DEMOCRATS CONTANTLY LIVING IN THE PAST???? Vietnam, 2000 election stolen, 2004 election stolen! No wonder they can't win a presidential election! LOL


14 posted on 06/01/2006 12:12:14 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicans Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For the Same Reason!)
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To: finnman69
Was the 2004 Election Stolen? (by RFKjr)

RFK Jr. stole the election?

15 posted on 06/01/2006 12:12:14 PM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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To: finnman69

Dear JRK Junior:

Pleas call the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE.


16 posted on 06/01/2006 12:12:38 PM PDT by roaddog727 (eludium PU36 explosive space modulator)
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To: finnman69

What horse manure!

Long lines didn't stop either myself or my husband from voting that day. Long lines didn't stop the several people who stood in those lines to vote! And I'm in a BLUE county, Montgomery!

This is just more of the same garbage from Demoshills, mad because their man didn't win. End of discussion!


17 posted on 06/01/2006 12:13:00 PM PDT by Sister_T (Kenneth Blackwell for Governor of Ohio!)
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To: finnman69

Something to ponder between bong hits.


18 posted on 06/01/2006 12:13:24 PM PDT by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: finnman69
Earth to Kennedy: GET OVER IT & MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE!
19 posted on 06/01/2006 12:13:31 PM PDT by NordP (GWB/Reagan Republican --- JACK BAUER PATRIOT)
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To: finnman69

In Arizona there were long lines that took three or four hours to get through. There was even food brought in. People really wanted to vote and stayed in those lines. So, long lines are a sorry excuse. Especially when people will stand longer to wait for tickets to an event.


20 posted on 06/01/2006 12:13:50 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: finnman69
I'm beginning to think it more and more likely that Kennedy contracted syphilis at some point and has never had it treated. It's the only thing I can think of that would explain his thought pattern or lack thereof.
21 posted on 06/01/2006 12:13:59 PM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: finnman69
wondering how the exit polls, which predicted an overwhelming victory for John Kerry, had gotten it so wrong.

Wishful thinking and reality often don't match. Cope.

22 posted on 06/01/2006 12:14:02 PM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: finnman69

Possession is 9/10ths of the law.


23 posted on 06/01/2006 12:14:05 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right....)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Psychologists/Psychiatrists call that "Projection"..........


24 posted on 06/01/2006 12:15:09 PM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: finnman69

"I spent the evening of the 2004 election watching the returns on television and wondering how the exit polls, which predicted an overwhelming victory for John Kerry, had gotten it so wrong"

I see, so the networks F up and call it for Kerry, prematurely. They are wrong, therefore Bush stole the election. On what planet are we living?


25 posted on 06/01/2006 12:15:11 PM PDT by Disturbin (Hey Hey, Ho Ho, The Illegals Have to GO)
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To: Bryan24

Shut up and take an Ambien, RFK!


26 posted on 06/01/2006 12:15:13 PM PDT by doctor noe
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Since he knows that the JFK election was bought in West Virginia and stolen in Chicago Kennedy thinks all politicians are dishonest. Just like all politicians don't get into drunk driving accidents, like the majoroty of the Kennedy's, they are not all involved in voter fraud like the Kennedy family.


27 posted on 06/01/2006 12:15:59 PM PDT by paguch
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To: finnman69

The news "blackout" was probably brought on by the MSM not wanting their exit polling methods to come under too much scrutiny.

Just a thought.


28 posted on 06/01/2006 12:16:01 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: finnman69
So Kerry won before he lost? Heh! Consistency.
29 posted on 06/01/2006 12:16:03 PM PDT by jackieaxe (Democrats are mired in a culture of screwing English speaking, taxpaying, law abiding citizens!)
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To: finnman69
....my guess is Michael "moose face" Moore is working for Rolling Stone. Oh!!..yeah yo Moose Face better get the shekels up for the law suit.......


Doogle
30 posted on 06/01/2006 12:16:29 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF...8th TFW...Ubon Thailand...408thMMS..."69"...Night Line Delivery...AMMO!!)
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Great!!! PLEASE RFK jr, PLEASE follow this lunatic thinking!

It does nothing except show how out of touch the Democrats have become...
31 posted on 06/01/2006 12:16:30 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If you build it, they won't come...)
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To: ctdonath2

Liberals cannot cope with reality, therefore they imagineer to change it............You cannot fake reality and get away with it for long.........


32 posted on 06/01/2006 12:16:45 PM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: finnman69
Were Federal and State approvals for the CAPE WIND PROJECT stolen by RFK Jr. and Uncle Ted??
33 posted on 06/01/2006 12:16:49 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Doogle

Michael Moore, of the Leni Riefenstahl School of Motion Picture Making............


34 posted on 06/01/2006 12:18:09 PM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: finnman69
First the NY Times (who wouldn't touch the Swift Boat Veterans story until it had gained unstoppable traction, and then only to dishonestly try to debunk it without seriously pursuing the evidence that shows they were right) resurrects the anti-Swift Boat Veterans attack. Now RFK Jr. resurrects the 'we wuz robbed in Ohio' mantra.

What will be the next dropped shoe? Maybe some foreign leaders will mysteriously remember clandestine meetings that they had with Kerry, offering their support? Maybe the Beacon Hill fire hydrant will mysteriously reappear in its original position? Maybe the tanning lotion and Botox producers will revise their formulas to make them less noticeable? Maybe his daughter will start wearing a bra? Maybe he'll get his hunting license by mail this time?

Coincidences are strange, aren't they?

35 posted on 06/01/2006 12:18:24 PM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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the 6 million American voters living abroad

What kind of BS is this? (I assume Kennedy isn't counting the military in this number). Americans "living abroad" shouldn't be voting here. They've abandoned the country, so why should they have a say in how it's governed? Jerks.

36 posted on 06/01/2006 12:19:34 PM PDT by Argus
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To: finnman69

It's common knowledge that Bush and Rove used the flying monkeys from the Wizard of Oz to pick up Democrat voters and take them far away from the polling place.

37 posted on 06/01/2006 12:19:43 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (What is it about "illegal" you don't understand?)
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To: All

Does anyone doubt that should the GOP win again in 2008, the Democrats will claim that the election was stolen?

I mean, c'mon, there seems to be a pattern developing here.


38 posted on 06/01/2006 12:20:24 PM PDT by Signalman
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Why the focus on one state? They announced MONTHS before voting day that "Florida was the key state last time; Ohio will be the key state this time" and it was, and is, and still is. Odd.

Why not focus on six other states Kerry lost? Or won, for that matter.


39 posted on 06/01/2006 12:20:26 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

"And so were the 1948, 1960, 1964, and 1976 elections."

I loved Barry Goldwater's politics as much as anybody, but it's hard to see how one could call the 1964 election "stolen." We lost that one fair and square.



40 posted on 06/01/2006 12:20:34 PM PDT by labard1
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To: finnman69
We are soooooooooo sorry Mr. Kennedy. We were only trying to counter the Chicago graveyard vote that elected your uncle. While on the subject it is true that Dan Quayle was not the sharpest knife in the drawer but when Bentsen insulted him by telling him he was "no Jack Kennedy"; he should have replied "Mr. Senator that is the nicest thing you could have possibly said to me". In conclusion Dear Robert shove it up your wretched globally warmed pompous backside.
42 posted on 06/01/2006 12:21:11 PM PDT by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: RobRoy

Are you thinking the polling methods were designed to skew the results in Kerry's favor so Bush voters in Western states would be discouraged from coming out to the polls?


43 posted on 06/01/2006 12:21:51 PM PDT by rwa265 (Behold, I am with you always. (Matthew 28:20))
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Just more dribble from chimpanzee spanking victims!
44 posted on 06/01/2006 12:21:56 PM PDT by avacado
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To: finnman69

I tuned in late to the 2004 elections and didn't hear the dire exit poll predictions, but the first thing I did see was that all of the 12(?) gay rights votes were going badly for the gay supporters.

As soon as I saw that, I knew it was going to go well for Republicans. If the Democrats had truly won the elections, they would have won the gay rights votes as well. The Democrats lost both fair and square.


45 posted on 06/01/2006 12:22:14 PM PDT by RJL
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To: finnman69

Ah yes, that paragon of journalistic integrity, "Rolling Stone." If I'm not mistaken, this is the same magazine that artfully touched up Gore's trousers in the zipper area.


46 posted on 06/01/2006 12:24:07 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: Doogle

It's a slow day at Rolling Stone every day. The people running that place have to duct tape their bongs to their walkers to keep from losing them.


47 posted on 06/01/2006 12:25:13 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (I like to make everyone's day a little more surreal)
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To: finnman69

If most of these voters are democrat voters, and every allegation is true,. all it shows is that more democrat voters can't follow simple directions, or have the patience to wait on a line.


48 posted on 06/01/2006 12:25:14 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: finnman69

Sound like at least one Dim is preparing an excuse for their upcoming losses in 06.


49 posted on 06/01/2006 12:25:52 PM PDT by msg-84
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To: kublia khan

I just wish Quayle would have been quick witted enough to respond "and neither is Michael Dukakis." Having said that, Quayle was a lot sharper than the press made him out to be. Can you imagine what the MSM would have done to that dim bulb John Edwards if he was a Republican?


50 posted on 06/01/2006 12:26:44 PM PDT by rwa265 (Behold, I am with you always. (Matthew 28:20))
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