Skip to comments.Ibuprofen Can Double Risk Of Heart Attack, Says Medical Study
Posted on 06/01/2006 6:35:06 PM PDT by blam
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OK, so don't take them in high doses.
Take two aspirin instead.
One might suspect that those taking these at high dose levels already have some fairly severe health issues.
I'm curious how they define 'high doses.' I didn't see it specified in the article.
I guess I better stop taking double the recommended dose of Advil (for a broken ankle) until I get the results of yesterday's Nuclear Stress Test, eh?
I only took one VIOXX a day.
I eat 8 or more Ibuprofen to take it's place.
The VIOXX worked much, much better.
At least let me die with less pain.
Well, isn't that special. I practically live on those things. I didn't want to take narcotics all the time because of that danger, so now the alternative is going to kill me. LOL So, what are we supposed to do for the pain?
They found that there were three more heart attacks per 1,000 people every year in those who did not already have heart disease but who were taking COX-2 inhibitors or NSAIDs.
Without ibuprophen many people would have no quality of life, so what's a .3 percent increase in yearly risk to someone with pain? I don't think this will deter many ibuprophen takers.
When you read the side effects on any drug, OTC or Rx, there are always risks.
Isn't it funny that they don't mention what a "high dose" is. So, I will assume that they mean taking over 400 capsules in a 24 hour period and therefore I will continue to use ibuprofen.
Without ibuprofen I'd have ceased being functional four or five years ago. I'll take my chances.
Funded by the makers of Tylenol?
(That's a joke people, a joke. lol)
Seriously, what IS a high dose? 10? 16? with beer? wine? tell me! I take them all day long. Figure my liver or kidneys will give out first. Heart attack will only finish things off.
Vioxx worked great. Then Factor Five forced me into giving it up. Now I'm stuck with Celebrex and Lyrica.
Someday they're going to come up with the perfect painkiller (besides death) that doesn't make your rational thoughts sprout purple mushrooms. Then the drug addicts will figure out some new use for it and get it banned.
There are days I feel seriously screwed.
Our results indicated that high dose ibuprofen (800 mg three times daily) and high dose diclofenac (75 mg twice daily) were each associated with an increased risk of vascular events ...That's twice the maximum warning on the label ("Do not excced 6 tablets [200 mg each] in one day") or equal to 12 maximum strength tablets a day.
The sky is falling.
Have no fear, in a couple of years a different bunch of "researchers" will state that Ibuprofen prevents heart attacks.
800 mg, three times a day, is a prescription dose (at least that's what I've been Rx'd after surgery.)
I take that much some days, and other days I take none. All depends on the pain level.
Tylenol will kill your liver, ibuprophen will give you a heart attack...well, you gotta go some way, so why not go out pain-free, LOL.
Quick work, thank you :)
You know what? Practically everything kills you.
No food is 100% safe, no drug, no substance is without adverse circumstances in at least some obscure scenario.
Frankly, the human body doesn't work forever. And that's pretty much not going to change.
Take the danged narcotics.
This is a load of BS. Heroin = Bad, Oxycontin = Good. The only things that makes Oxy "good" are the facts that it is made by a legitimized drug company from synthetic substances to EXACTLY mimic the effects of Heroin.
Nothing inherently wrong with either drug. Heroin would be fine, as long as its purity is assured and the patients can get enough of it as tolerance builds. Don't think for one minute you can't develop tolerance/addiction problems with ANY synthetic opiate. Better to be a FUNCTIONING addict than debilitated by pain.
Thanks, I feel so much better now knowing I AM taking the high dosage. lol
Don't you know? Suffering is good for you!
800mg three times a day is what you get prescribed after a minor surgery to take for a week or longer.
ping for later
The exception is acetaminophen (paracetamol), commonly known as Tylenol -- which should be the pain-reliever of first resort because of its much lower incidence of negative side-effects.
In fact, the drug makers have caused it to be overlooked in favor of much more expensive medications and often claim that it isn't much more than a placebo -- because of the absence of negative side-effects.
While as effective in providing pain relief to the receptors in the brain, they are not as effective anti-inflammatories, which can be addressed separately by inflammation reducing movements. The worst thing about the NSAIDS and COX-2 inhibitors is the propensity to produce gastric upset and thus keeping the body always stressed out by those concerns.
Hey, I've already had the heart attack - so I use wine. Pain free and smiling, at least in the evenings!
The only time liver damage seems to have occurred is because of suicical high dosages for the deliberate purpose of producing death in this manner.
Tht's like forcing the rats to consume 1,000 diet soft drinks daily to see if they will have bladder irritation -- and then extrapolating an increased probility of cancers from saccharine.
That was my wife's experience too.
You are giving very dangerous and incorrect information (Hope you are not a salesperson for J & J and Tylenol). Tylenol, known as paracetamol in most of the world, and as acetaminophen in the USA, is indeed, less damaging to the stomach than NSAIDS. However, it can be very dangerous to the liver, particularly in combination with alcohol. And when taken in a overdose, unlike aspirin, is almost always fatal. More children now die from accidental Tylenol poisoning,by far, than from aspirin overdose. So folks, please keep those bottles of Tylenol away from your children and grandchildren.
Two aspirin will do me in - I can only take willow bark caps - which has the active ingredient in aspirin, but still contains the buffers that nature built in - and I have no problem.
I also have good luck with homeopathic anti-inflammatories
This comment was made to someone I know regarding narcotics: "so what's worse? the pain or the constipation?"
It should also be noted that chronic pain also carries physical risk factors, not just discomfort. Elevated blood pressure for one. So, it seems to me, that one should wonder what other risk factors are already present in the population that has the need to use high doses of NSAIDs in the first place.
* Disclaimer: Don't take whole bottles of acetaminophen to kill yourself!
Mrs. Winslow's Soothing Syrup was an indispensable aid to mothers and child-care workers. Containing one grain (65 mg) of morphine per fluid ounce, it effectively quieted restless infants and small children. It probably also helped mothers relax after a hard day's work. The company used various media to promote their product, including recipe books, calendars, and trade cards such as the one shown here from 1887 (A calendar is on the reverse side.).
Thanks. But I will continue to take it whenever and how many I want.
Tell your docter you want to stop that if your are on it as an anti-inflammatory.
Voltaren is the most powerful anti-inflammatory pill you can get (sodium diclofenac). It works for me with only 2 each 75mg pills for a day. Neck, back, leg pains go away with only one pill.
Tramadol is Ultracet for pain at 375 mg each. It is more effective for pain than Darvocet or Vicodin. Non-opiate and non-addictive.
I used opiates for a longer time than I should because of injuries and discovered these two are all I need before I realized I needed them no more. Try them. Tell your doctor to order these chemicals for you. I have bad disks. You can't take aspirin or ibuprofin with these.
Not trolling your thread, but I'm so sick of this endless litany of 'medical Studies'. I hear about them daily, sometimes multiple times, and they begin contradicting each other eventually. It's all white noise to me.
Just take this for aches and pains instead. It's probably not as bad for you as allot of the other junk that's out there lol.
Okay, define "high doses".
Ibuprofen may prevent Alzheimer's. And generally, anti-inflammatories should have health benefits. High doses of aspirin (too high to be tolerable), would probably cure type 2 diabetes.
Stole my line!
A year ago I was taking 6-8 325mg aspirin per day.....today I'm taking NONE....or one a week.....some people could benefit from FISH OIL.....it's an anti-inflammatory. But, you have to take substantial amounts daily.....course, the bio-identical hormones have helped a lot too, I think....and maybe the thyroid med...which I'm weaning off of....there are OTHER ways to deal with pain that is not caused by a specific incident injury.
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