Posted on 06/02/2006 4:20:55 AM PDT by 2NY
By "at all" I mean in a serious, substantive manner, as I believe you understand. But as usual you are quibbling.
What's a "serious law"? Do you mean as opposed to a law that you do not believe should be enforced?
I hope you know that you are taking an absolutely Clintonian philosophical position.
Illegals' tax deal SHOULD kill bill !!!!!!!
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language. and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
"6 million illegal aliens expelled since Bush took office = current immigration laws aren't being enforced "at all"?"
Are you back with that silly argument again? You get shot down on it repeatedly.
Here's the simple analogy which you cannot seem to grasp (though most Americans do):
a) From 1994 to 2000 we expelled 100 illegals, but 300 got through.
b)From 2001 to 2006 we expelled 200 illegals, but 1,000 got through.
See how much better we're doing!?!? *Double* the number of deportations!
Duh.
They know their constitutional bounds. It makes for a great excuse at election time. "We tried to make illegals pay their back taxes, but the Constitution wouldn't let us." A typical Bill Clinton, "It was a hot potato, there was nothing we could do."
Trust our masters, they know what is best for the peasantry. /s
And your point is a half-truth. Those dealers and users first require a producer/supplier. In 1999 it was estimated Americans spent some $69 billion on illegal drugs with as much as 70% of that entering from the US/Mexican border, with their production originating from South/Central America and Mexico. In seven years' time, that dollar amount is most likely to have increased. With Mexico's recent legislative move to legalize quantities of controlled substances which are illegal in the US, it is an apparent "thumbing the nose" at US efforts to remove those illegal drugs from our streets, another effort on Mexico's behalf to complicate US/Mexican relations.
Mexico continues to try undermining US sovereignty and exploits its own poor at every opportunity to aid in its accomplishment of that end.
Clawrence and Co. are like the story of the sorcerer's apprentice: one broom is hatcheted, it becomes two, and the numbers then increase exponentially.
They refuse to acknowledge our long-standing policy of `catch-and-release' that has led to the situtation we find ourselves in now.
All they can say is, "Hey, look at the numbers." We do, and say, "Unacceptable!" then they repeat,
"But look at the numbers . . " and their circular argument goes on-and-on, up to 2006.
Enough!
DMV CLERK ISSUED FAKE IDS
(illegal aliens bought 1,579 forged driver's licenses, 930 phony ID's)
Asssociated Press April 13, 2006
A former worker at a Department of Motor Vehicles office in Bridgeport, Conn., has pleaded guilty to charges of issuing hundreds of phony licenses. Tracy Lucas-Stevenson, 31, of Stratford, pleaded guilty in Superior Court to charges of receiving bribes, forgery and racketeering. She and two female colleagues had begun selling a few licenses to illegal aliens working locally, police said. The operation soon grew to dozens of licenses and IDs being sold every day by the women, they said. By the summer of 2004, police said, the trio had sold 1,579 driver's licenses and 930 ID's, at an average of $100 per card.
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/64420.htm
Another way of describing the situation, the Border Patrol are like a rat-catcher. There is a hole in the wall of the house that rats get through.
Sometimes the ratcatcher catches a rat at the hole, and then releases it outside, and then informs the homeowner that he caught 30 rats the previous month.
The problem is, of course, that some rats were caught more than once but eventually figured out how not to be caught and are now safely in the kitchen.
In the meantime, the rat-catcher is teaching new rodents how not to be caught. Friends of rats say the problem is not that serious and we should continue with the status quo ante; those of us who are not `rat-friendly' say "Plug the hole, then turn a half-dozen terriers loose in the kitchen."
Non-political Americans seem to prefer the latter approach while the Senate and president seem wedded to the former.
"There's just one problem: The U.S. Constitution specifically prohibits revenue-raising legislation from originating in the Senate."
"The U.S. Constitution hasn't stopped these people before; why would it stop them now?"
It's completly obvious on this one!!
I even remember that it allowed the FAA(?) to increase a tax. The problem was, the FAA started collecting it before the
bill became law. "We expect the bill to pass..."
It was *only* for a couple of days, but the FAA had no authority to extract that money before it was the law.
Even though Senate Reps voted against the bill 32 to 23, and the Dems voted for it 40-4, this is characterized as a Rep bill. Frist must be feeling pressure from the WH to go along with this nonsense.
JUST ONE OF NUMEROUS CASES REPORTED NATIONWIDE:
DMV CLERK ISSUED FAKE IDS
(illegal aliens bought 1,579 forged driver's licenses, 930 phony ID's)
Asssociated Press April 13, 2006
"A former worker at a Department of Motor Vehicles office in Bridgeport, Conn., has pleaded guilty to charges of issuing hundreds of phony licenses. Tracy Lucas-Stevenson, 31, of Stratford, pleaded guilty in Superior Court to charges of receiving bribes, forgery and racketeering. She and two female colleagues had begun selling a few licenses to illegal aliens working locally, police said. The operation soon grew to dozens of licenses and IDs being sold every day by the women, they said. By the summer of 2004, police said, the trio had sold 1,579 driver's licenses and 930 ID's, at an average of $100 per card."
Just more reasons to keep an eye on this problem!!
(s)
But it is only a VIRTUAL income raising bill!
The earned income tax credit will have the taxpayer giving money to the illegals!
Virtual Amnesty
Virtual Fence
Virtual Income
Virtual Penalties
The senate bill is
Virtually Wonderful!
(/s)
Obama Osama put that amendment in.
IOW The illegal who takes amnesty will loose his job to the new illegal.
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