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Giant Crater Found [in Antarctica]: Tied to Worst Mass Extinction Ever [Permo-Triassic]
SPACE.com ^ | June 2, 2006 | Robert Roy Britt

Posted on 06/02/2006 11:44:43 AM PDT by cogitator

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To: All

30 miles wide?!

ouch


41 posted on 06/02/2006 12:36:45 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: Glenn

No, we got all those in FSU............Florida State Criminoles.......


42 posted on 06/02/2006 12:38:53 PM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: kerryusama04
I didn't know that the "dinosaurs were killed by a meteor" theory had graduated to

This impact was before there were dinosaurs.

43 posted on 06/02/2006 12:53:16 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
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To: Bosco

Penn State 17 the Ohio State U. 10.


44 posted on 06/02/2006 1:08:15 PM PDT by Tulane
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To: cogitator
the climate change + increased volcanism theory is regaining lost ground.

Just a pair of cosmic coincidences that two gigantic colliders impacted the earth at two times of massive volcanic upheavals and two mass extinctions?

Maybe the collisions set off the volcanism which caused the climate change.

45 posted on 06/02/2006 1:17:44 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
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To: Blzbba
Well, it's like he always said:
Cthulhu Mna 'Fth'ngui Fgthan
46 posted on 06/02/2006 1:19:55 PM PDT by akorahil (Thank You and God bless all Veterans. Truly, the real heroes.)
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To: cogitator
"and the climate change + increased volcanism theory is regaining lost ground."

You forgot to add "against all logic".

A global extinction of all critters bigger than a dog (except for the cold-blooded reptiles which could 'hibernate' through the global winter without having to eat for a year or more if necessary)is not going to be caused by "climate change" or "increased volcanism".

Actually, it was indeed caused by the temporary "catastrophic climate change" caused by the impact of the Yucatan asteroid (According to an Indian scientist, there may have been another simultaneous impact in Asia, presumably from the original object breaking up before impact, but that has not yet been proven as fact...)

47 posted on 06/02/2006 1:21:46 PM PDT by Al Simmons (Hillary Clinton is Stalin in a Dress)
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To: Glenn
Right. Our religious leaders have done so much to explain the observable.?

If religion did not exist at all, too many in the current crop of self-promoting doofuses, who call themselves "scientists", would make perfect fools of themselves without any help whatsoever, thankyouverymuch.

48 posted on 06/02/2006 1:25:20 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Mike Darancette
This impact was before there were dinosaurs.

I think he was referring to the other impact crater, Mike, Chicxulub...

49 posted on 06/02/2006 1:28:17 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: kerryusama04
I didn't know that the "dinosaurs were killed by a meteor" theory had graduated to fact.

"They" say something enough times and it's fact. You know, like "Teddy is a congressman, Teddy is a congressman, Tedd...." --- oh, well.

50 posted on 06/02/2006 1:31:54 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Mike Darancette
Deccan Trap volcanism preceded the Chicxulub impact for about 1 million years. I'd have to dig to find what I read recently downplaying the K/T extinction (wait... I'm going to give Google three changes)

This is close:

In Extinction Debate, Dinosaurs and Science Writers are the Losers

Princeton Paleontologist Produces Evidence For New Theory On Dinosaur Extinction

This is from 2003 and I thought I had seen something much more recent. Keller has published more recent stuff, so that may be what I'm thinking of. The jury is still out; I think the Chicxulub impact had to contribute, but how much ?

51 posted on 06/02/2006 1:33:20 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: Al Simmons
Based on quick research for my previous reply, the impact-didn't-do-it camp (led by Gerta Keller) still acknowledges the Chicxulub impact. Keller contends that the Cretaceous actually continues for 300,000 years after Chicxulub, and that another (undiscovered) larger impact finished off the familiar Cretaceous biota (dinos), which were under stress from Chicxulub and volcanism.

I have one big problem with that. From what I remember, the K/T iridium layer gets thicker the closer you get to Chicxulub -- and there is only one K/T iridium layer, as far as I know. So if the K/T iridium layer is not due to Chicxulub, why doesn't it thicken in a direction other than toward Chicxulub? I have no idea.

52 posted on 06/02/2006 1:39:24 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: trublu

Nancy Pelosi toured the devastated area...

Was she there before or after McCain and Hill toured it and said there was 'devastation as far as the eye could see'?


53 posted on 06/02/2006 1:44:33 PM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: Al Simmons
If you're interested in the controversy, get out a magnifying glass and read this page:

The Chicxulub Impact and Its Relation to the K/T Boundary

The meeting where these papers were presented was last week, so this is hot off the press.

54 posted on 06/02/2006 1:47:06 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: kerryusama04
LOL! The Scientific Method as taught to me in the 7th Grade is dead.
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When has the Scientific Method ever gotten funding for your research?

</sarc>
55 posted on 06/02/2006 1:57:16 PM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: PatrickHenry; KevinDavis

ping


56 posted on 06/02/2006 1:58:07 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: cogitator

Obviously, this meteor was cast from one the Flying Spaghetti Monster's Sacred Noodly Appendages!


57 posted on 06/02/2006 1:58:59 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: kerryusama04; cogitator; Lord_Baltar; mtbopfuyn; Glenn; PatrickHenry
Ahhhh, answered my own question. It is so hard to take "scientists" seriously these days.

So let me get this straight -- in post #21, you snottily sneer at the scientists for what you saw as being too much confidence in the dinosaur/meteor scenario, and then after you bothered to read the article you found that they had in fact described it in more qualified terms, then you used *that* as an excuse (in post #24) to snottily declare that it's hard to take them seriously these days, and you even derisively put "scientists" in "scare quotes".

Given that you "found" reason to attack them *both* ways (i.e. for supposedly being certain, then for *not* being certain), which makes it clear that nothing they can say will keep you from saying obnoxious tbings about them, why don't you just come out and admit that you just despise scientists in general no matter what they might say or not say, and leave it at that?

The people who are truly "hard to take seriously" are the folks who inevitably feel a need to pop onto all the science threads to express their knee-jerk feelings about science and the people who work in it. It gets a little old after the 800th time.

58 posted on 06/02/2006 2:00:25 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: kerryusama04; Lord_Baltar
[You've got a better answer?]

LOL! The Scientific Method as taught to me in the 7th Grade is dead.

No, it isn't. But I need a good laugh today, feel free to share with us your "reasons" for saying such a goofy thing.

59 posted on 06/02/2006 2:02:56 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: Ichneumon
Posted yesterday (different title): BIG BANG IN ANTARCTICA -- KILLER CRATER FOUND UNDER ICE.
60 posted on 06/02/2006 2:03:02 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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