Skip to comments.Reversal of Earth's Magnetic Field-(Hey Algore read this)
Posted on 06/03/2006 7:00:13 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude
Rush made mentioned this week of a core sample that showed evidence of tropical remains from an Arctic sample. Here are the results of a similar study done by a federally funded organization that claims this has been happening for........ever.
Simulated three-dimensional structure of Earth's magnetic field, with inward (blue) and outward (yellow) directed field lines. Field lines extend two Earth radii from the core. The location of the core-mantle boundary is evident where the structure becomes complex
Considering that ships, planes and Boy Scouts steer by it, Earth's magnetic field is less reliable than you'd think. Rocks in an ancient lava flow in Oregon suggest that for a brief erratic span about 16 million years ago magnetic north shifted as much as 6 degrees per day. After little more than a week, a compass needle would have pointed toward Mexico City.
The lava catches Earth's magnetic field in the act of reversing itself. Magnetic north heads south, and -- over about 1,000 years -- the field does a complete flip-flop. While the Oregon data is controversial, Earth scientists agree that the geological evidence as a whole -- the "paleomagnetic" record -- proves such reversals happened many times over the past billion years.
"Some reversals occurred within a few 10,000 years of each other," says Los Alamos scientist Gary Glatzmaier, "and there are other periods where no reversals occurred for tens of millions of years." How do these flip-flops happen, and why at such irregular intervals? The geological data, invaluable to show what happened, registers only a mute shrug when it comes to the deeper questions.
For that matter, why is it that instead of quietly fading away, as magnetic fields do when left to their own devices, Earth's magnetic field is still going strong after billions of years? Einstein is said to have considered it one of the most important unsolved problems in physics. With a year of computing on Pittsburgh's CRAY C90, 2,000 hours of processing, Glatzmaier and collaborator Paul Roberts of UCLA took a big step toward some answers. Their numerical model of the electromagnetic, fluid dynamical processes of Earth's interior reproduced key features of the magnetic field over more than 40,000 years of simulated time. To top it off, the computer-generated field reversed itself.
"We weren't expecting it," says Roberts, "and were delighted. This gives us confidence we've built a credible bridge between theory and the paleomagnetic data." Their surprising results, reported as a cover story in Nature (Sept. 21, 1995), provide an inner-Earth view of geomagnetic phenomena that have not been observed or anticipated by theory. Furthermore, the Glatzmaier-Roberts model offers, for the first time, a coherent explanation of magnetic field reversal.
Journey to the Center of the Earth
Roughly speaking, Earth is like a chocolate-covered cherry -- layered, with liquid beneath the surface and a solid inner core. Beneath the planet's relatively thin crust is a thick, solid layer called the mantle. Between the mantle and the inner core is a fluid layer, the outer core. According to generally accepted theory -- the dynamo theory -- interactions between the churning, twisting flow of molten material in the outer core and the magnetic field generate electrical current that, in turn, creates new magnetic energy that sustains the field. "The typical lifetime of a magnetic field like Earth's," says Glatzmaier, "is several tens of thousands of years. The fact that it's existed for billions of years means something must be regenerating it all the time."
How do we know if the dynamo theory is right? To the consternation of our desire to understand what's happening inside the planet we live on, Jules Verne's Journey to the Center of the Earth is still fiction. There's no way to penetrate 4,000 miles to Earth's center, nor to monitor fluid motions or magnetism in the outer core.
The Glatzmaier-Roberts computational model may be the next best thing to a guided tour of inner Earth. While other models have given good clues that theory is on track, they have been limited by a two-dimensional approach that required simplifying assumptions. Roberts and Glatzmaier set out to implement a fully three-dimensional model, based on a computer program Glatzmaier developed over many years, that would allow the complex feedbacks between fluid motion and the magnetic field to evolve on their own -- in other words, to be solved "self consistently."
If I understand my NOVA specials correctly, the big worry is what happens during the relatively short time the Magnetosphere is in flux during a reversal. Does it leave us unprotected from the deadly charged particles from outer space?
Either way, the theory did help give rise to the most hilariously bad sci-fi flick of recent years "The Core" (www.imdb.com/title/tt0298814) with a surprisingly stellar cast at that.
What bullshit. Magnetic compasses have been in use for 600 years and in that time the Earth's magnetic north pole has barely moved. By this "reasoning," magnetic north would have by now moved to Korea.
You might take it as Impending doom, I look at is as
another confirmation that WE have nothing to do with
what happens in the Global Warming issue.
This planet is constantly changing, and this is just another
example of how we can do nothing to stop its move forward.
Not exactly global warming but I thought you might be interested-ping
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Magneto then remained in this state on Avalon worshipped by his Acolytes..."
Erik Magnus Lehnsherr
The article didn't say it was happening today. It was referring to what happens during a reversal.
Read the article again. It doesn't say the field reverses every thousand years. It says the reversal takes a thousand years to complete.
Impending doom inded....when the Van Allen belts collapse we will all be fried by intense solar radiation.....enjoy the sun-tan.
Guess you missed this. "The typical lifetime of a magnetic field like Earth's," says Glatzmaier, "is several tens of thousands of years. The fact that it's existed for billions of years means something must be regenerating it all the time."
I'll bet he feels spanked now! ;-)
||I knew it all along.|
LOL, thats great
>>What bullshit. Magnetic compasses have been in use for 600 years and in that time the Earth's magnetic north pole has barely moved. By this "reasoning," magnetic north would have by now moved to Korea.<<
This is established science that the poles reverse. The frequency is in debate.
My reaction too. We do have to correct Magnetic North to True North (and visa versa), and the correction factor changes enough so that charts don't print the correction factor on them lest they become obsolete. So the field is changing, but massive projections as to when the field will reverse, when the change seems slow, irregular, and un-uniform seems unwise.
Well, according to the medical profession, we'll all be OK if we just use enough sunscreen. SPF 45,000?
See posts 10 and 11.
Calling Admiral Nelson!!!
Maybe if Michael Moore moved to Tierra Del Fuego, this 1200 year thing would speed up?
The compass needle was in use during the Trojan war.
I believe during a reversal, worldwide you'd expect eventually several hundred thousand additional human deaths from cancer.
In the grand scheme of things, irrelevant, out of 5 billion people, though it obviously sucks if you're one of the unfortunate several hundred thousand.
There's no evidence of any animals...reptiles, birds, mammals...having mass die-offs during past reversals.
It's that Karl Rove at it again!!
That was a sarcastic joke.
I always post that pic on junk science/apocalyptic hysteria threads....:)
"Well, according to the medical profession, we'll all be OK if we just use enough sunscreen. SPF 45,000?"
I'm gonna *really* freckle when it happens.
I'm just planning to stay inside for the rest of my life.
Earth's mag field is produced by the atmosphere.
This was the post I was looking for. I was trying to explain this to a guy who said "They have no way to prove the earth is more than 6000 years old." Actually, they do. Thank you so much for posting it.
Bump for later reading. Ping for possible GGG List
BS yourself. The long-term changes in magnetic north have been well-documented for decades. Magnetic north is changing as we speak -- just compare some old aeronautical charts with the new versions.
A year or so ago, PBS ran a very compelling special on the magnetic pole shift, how it happens, how possibilities increase....all with full-color charts and graphs and a very impressive retinue of bigtime scientists at various bigtime universities. I'll see if I cna find a link.
Those are great links.
Go here to see the PBS Nova "Magnetic Storm" information http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/magnetic/
The Bush-Rove Magnetic Pole Reverser is almost ready for its first test.
"What bullshit. Magnetic compasses have been in use for 600 years and in that time the Earth's magnetic north pole has barely moved. By this "reasoning," magnetic north would have by now moved to Korea."
Do you have a clue as to where the magnetic North Pole is today? Barely moved? Google the subject.
The last magnetic shift occurred long before there were Boy Scouts and planes.
Considering that planes and Boy Scouts steer by it, that's very reliable.
600 years in geologic time is short.
The geoligical record is clear. Magnetic reversals have occurred numerous times over geological time.
Sorry, no. The difference between magnetic and true is magnetic variation, not declination. Declination is the term used to describe the angle above the horizon of a celestial body. The difference beyween a mag heading and a compass heading is deviation. Thus: "Timid virgins make dull companions at weddings" -- or: True - add variation - mag - add deviation -- compass -- add west variation (and subtract east).
But the poles hardly reverse every 1,000 years as the article states. Sorry. Still wrong.