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Prospective Democratic Chairs All Liberal(Miss Folks do your part vote Epsy June 6)
CBS ^ | JUne 3 2006 | ANDREW TAYLOR

Posted on 06/03/2006 12:34:41 PM PDT by catholicfreeper

If the chips fall right for Democrats and their party seizes control of the House, President Bush's agenda on Capitol Hill would fall into the hands of some of his most dogged opponents.

It's not just would-be Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California, but a boatload of Democrats newly running committees who would determine what legislation gets debated and which programs and agencies get scrutiny.

So who are the chairmen to be?

_a Polish-American lawyer with a reputation for making witnesses quiver.

_a die-hard liberal from New York's Harlem with 35 years in the House.

_a free-spending progressive from Wausau, Wis.

_one of the few remaining "Watergate babies" swept into Congress in 1974.

For that to happen, Democrats would need help from voters in November: Right now, Republicans hold 231 of the 435 seats in the House, with 201 Democrats and one independent. Two seats are vacant.

As for those prospective Democratic chairmen, the group is overwhelmingly liberal-leaning.

Only two of 20 earned grades of less than 90 percent on last year's voting records from the liberal Americans for Democratic Action interest group. Half had perfect scores of 100 from the ADA _ or would have had it not been for missed votes.

The lawyer is Rep. John Dingell of Michigan, the dean of the House and the once and maybe future chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee. He is a staunch ally of the auto industry and a fearsome inquisitor of bureaucrats and CEOs alike. Dingell, 79, has lost a step in recent years but is among the most respected Democrats.

The liberal with the distinct New York accent is Rep. Charles Rangel, poised to grab the helm of the Ways and Means Committee, which has a sweeping portfolio: taxes, trade, Social Security, Medicare and welfare. He has battled Bush's tax cuts every step of the way, opposed the 1996 overhaul of welfare laws, opposed the North American and Central American free trade accords and pushed for a more generous Medicare prescription drug benefit.

Rep. David Obey, the unapologetic liberal from Wisconsin, is eager to retake the gavel of the powerful Appropriations Committee, which holds the reins on government spending. He briefly led the committee in 1994 before the GOP landslide that year awarded control of Congress to Republicans. Obey came to Washington at the height of the Vietnam War; ever since, he has been an ardent opponent of GOP efforts to clamp down of domestic agency budgets that Congress approves each year.

Rep. George Miller of California is one of three still-serving members of the huge class of 1974 that swamped Congress after the Watergate scandal. He is in line to head the Education and the Workforce Committee; he was chairman of the Resources Committee in the early 1990s when it was the Natural Resources Committee. Miller also is an unalloyed liberal, but he proved able to work with Bush in writing the 2002 No Child Left Behind education bill that is up for renewal next year.

For Republicans, the prospect of the House being led by a San Franciscan and so many left-leaning chairmen has supporters in business and Washington's K Street lobbying shops aghast. The switch could mark the demise of Bush's tax cut agenda and would usher into power union allies such as Rangel and Miller.

"The whole issue agenda would change," said GOP lobbyist Jack Howard. "All the businesses and trade associations would find themselves on defense."

The prospect of some of Congress' biggest liberals running committees probably will not be much of an issue in GOP fall campaigns, which typically focus more on local issues, said Carl Forti, spokesman for the National Republican Campaign Committee.

Former conservative Democratic Rep. Charles Stenholm of Texas says that regardless of any chairman's personal ideology, he would have to produce legislation that was middle of the road. Even if Democrats win control of the House, it would almost certainly be by a narrow margin in which the balance of power would rest with moderate Democrats.

"There will be very little if any legislation that passes that is to the left of center or very far to the left of center," Stenholm said.

The responsibility for determining the floor schedule probably would fall to Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, who could advance to the majority leader's post from his current job of minority whip. Hoyer and Pelosi fought a sometimes bitter race five years ago for a leadership post, but seem to have patched up their relationship.

In a potential power switch between the parties, more than an unrelenting string of liberal Democrats are positioned to take over committees.

Rep. Collin Peterson of Minnesota, who would run the Agriculture Committee, is anti-abortion and as pro-gun as practically anyone in the House. Rep. Ike Skelton of Missouri is a longtime hawk in line to lead the Armed Services Committee.

Black lawmakers would run major committees.

Besides Rangel, there is Rep. John Conyers of Michigan, in line for the top spot on the Judiciary Committee; Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi on the Homeland Security Committee; and Rep. Alcee Hastings of Florida at the Intelligence Committee.

Conyers has been accused by former aides of misusing his office by turning them into baby sitters for his children. He is the prime sponsor of a resolution that seeks to investigate grounds for possible impeachment of Bush over the war in Iraq.

Impeachment is hardly the message Democrats want to take to the swing voters expected to decide the outcome of the election.

"Democrats are not about impeachment," Pelosi said last month on NBC's "Meet The Press."

Hastings, a charismatic former federal judge, was impeached and removed from the bench in 1989 for fabricating evidence that secured his acquittal in 1983 on bribery charges.

Republicans award chairmanships based on the evaluation of a leadership committee that takes into account leadership fealty, fundraising prowess and other factors. Democrats would award would-be chairmanships strictly by seniority.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Mississippi
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If this frighten the heck out of folks, I don't know what will. If you are represented by Bennie Thompson in Mississippi at least you're in a position to mitigate the possible damage. All Republicans can vote in the Dem primary where Chuck Espy is trying to upset Congresman Bennie Thompson in the Dem primary. There will be no Republican Primary vote that day for that race since there is only one Republican running. Having Thompson as head of the Homeland Security committee is not something I don't wish to contemplate. Epsy will make a 100 percent better Congressman than Thompson if Epsy is finally elected.
1 posted on 06/03/2006 12:34:43 PM PDT by catholicfreeper
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To: catholicfreeper
It gets worse -

Barney Frank would chair the House Financial Services Committee
Maxine Waters would chair the Financial Institutions Subcommittee
John Murtha would chair the Defense Appropriations Subcommittee
Pete Stark would chair the Health Subcommitte of Ways and Means, which oversees Medicaid

2 posted on 06/03/2006 12:46:41 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Control the borders. Control the spending. Confirm the judges. Win the War. -- Hugh Hewitt)
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To: catholicfreeper
If the chips fall right for Democrats and their party seizes control of the House, President Bush's agenda on Capitol Hill would fall into the hands of some of his most dogged opponents.

If this (doesn't) frighten the heck out of folks, I don't know what will.

It better scare GWB, if the Dems gain control of the House I don't think there is any question about it, if it is at all possible, the Dems will be impeach him.

But GWB would rather listen to, and appease the illegals than listen to his voters, secure the border and elect Republicans.

Why can't we secure our borders NOW?

3 posted on 06/03/2006 12:49:14 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Surely the White House took all of this into account when they decided to push their benefit package for illegal aliens.


4 posted on 06/03/2006 12:50:42 PM PDT by claudiustg (¡En español, por favor!)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

I agree that Bush will be facing the most stupid investigations if the Dems get in. I have not been following the Murtha race perhaps he is vunerable too but I dont know.


5 posted on 06/03/2006 12:51:10 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (Proud supporter of Pres. Bush and the Gop-- with no caveats, qualifiers, or bitc*en)
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To: catholicfreeper
When I was a young fella back in Greenville, Ms. and in the 40's my daddy told me 'son, there are three things, no, four things in life you must never do. 1. Never trust a used car salesman with the name of 'Big Hearted Eddie', 2. Never stay in a motel with 'vacancy' paint on the side wall. 3. Never move to a town you can't spell 4. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER trust a politician.
6 posted on 06/03/2006 12:51:19 PM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: Dems_R_Losers

This is why every House election in 2006 must be made 'national' -- voters must understand that electing even 'moderate' Democrats could well mean that the most radical leftists will take over the Congress entirely. Yes, I know how frustrated most of us are with current Republican leadership, but the solution must be to make the Republicans better, not to turn things over to the depraved likes of Pelosi, Conyers, Dingell, Barney Frank, et al.


7 posted on 06/03/2006 12:53:23 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: gulfcoast6

You mentioning Greenville has got me thinking of those famous tamales they sell there. When I go up to Merigold to visit my relatives next week I have to stop off there.


8 posted on 06/03/2006 12:58:15 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (Proud supporter of Pres. Bush and the Gop-- with no caveats, qualifiers, or bitc*en)
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To: RJL

Be Afraid, Very Afraid...


9 posted on 06/03/2006 1:03:30 PM PDT by ruschpa
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To: RJL

For those of you carping on Bush's immigration stance, you have a point... I agree.

But in any election, it is basically a choice between 2 evils. Who will do the least damage? And I would argue that the Republicans would.


10 posted on 06/03/2006 1:05:06 PM PDT by ruschpa
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To: claudiustg

For those of you carping on Bush's immigration stance, you have a point... I agree.

But in any election, it is basically a choice between 2 evils. Who will do the least damage? And I would argue that the Republicans would.


11 posted on 06/03/2006 1:05:24 PM PDT by ruschpa
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To: Enchante
the solution must be to make the Republicans better

How do we do that?

12 posted on 06/03/2006 1:11:05 PM PDT by stands2reason (You cannot bully or insult conservatives into supporting your guy.)
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To: stands2reason

Always vote for the more conservative in the primaries... but when it comes to the actual election.

It comes down to who will do the least damage? And I would argue that the Republicans would.


13 posted on 06/03/2006 1:16:57 PM PDT by ruschpa
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To: ruschpa
Always vote for the more conservative in the primaries...

If he's not an incumbent, he'll lose.

It comes down to who will do the least damage? And I would argue that the Republicans would.

That doesn't change anything.

14 posted on 06/03/2006 1:19:41 PM PDT by stands2reason (You cannot bully or insult conservatives into supporting your guy.)
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To: stands2reason

Of course it does... would you rather have the clowns led by Pelosi running the House?
I'm not happy with Republicans in the Congress either, but the Democrats would be an unmitigated freaking disaster. There is worse than what we have now...


15 posted on 06/03/2006 1:23:33 PM PDT by ruschpa
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To: ruschpa

I was originally responding to the poster who said "we have to make the Republicans better."

I asked "how," and you responded.

I didn't mean "better than the Dems" but "better than they are now."

Too many people, Freepers even, are content with the libs in the party. Not me.


16 posted on 06/03/2006 1:29:06 PM PDT by stands2reason (You cannot bully or insult conservatives into supporting your guy.)
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To: stands2reason
How do we do that?

Answer: By teaching them a lesson, just like we did to Bush 41.

Let the Democrats win the House. Let the Democrats win the Senate. Let America elect a two-term Democrat President (preferably Hillary).

After ten years of Democrat rule, Americans will finally wake up and forcefully embrace their traditional conservative core values.

After which, the left will become just another part of our history.

paleocon satire

17 posted on 06/03/2006 2:22:09 PM PDT by Tinian
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To: Tinian

You know, there is a big gap between that and worrying Chafee (ACU rating =12% same as Hillary's) might not win his primary.


Aww, we can't lose Chafee! I mean, he has an "R" by his name! (/R-bot mode)


18 posted on 06/03/2006 2:28:06 PM PDT by stands2reason (You cannot bully or insult conservatives into supporting your guy.)
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To: stands2reason

To quote Tip O'Neill, all politics is local.

Get off your dead a$$. Get involved at the grass roots level. See to it that District Committee members who share your principles are nominated--and elected. Work with others in other districts.

Cull the crud before it even gets to the Primaries. Then cull it again in the Primaries.

And quit whining like a Democrat.


19 posted on 06/03/2006 3:20:56 PM PDT by Tinian
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To: catholicfreeper
If Democrats win the House...

John Conyers will take over the Judiciary Committee and he has promised to launch impeachment hearings.

20 posted on 06/03/2006 3:27:07 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

21 posted on 06/03/2006 3:32:06 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: catholicfreeper

The mere thought of the Democrat Freakshow seizing control is enough to give the American people a critical case of the willies.


22 posted on 06/03/2006 3:41:16 PM PDT by Savage Beast (The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America!)
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To: RobFromGa

Various file photos of Democratic House members positioned to become Committee chairman after the 2006 Congressional races...


23 posted on 06/03/2006 3:41:23 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Coop

24 posted on 06/03/2006 3:47:25 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: catholicfreeper

So "punishing" the Republicans by voting donk or sitting this one out may not be a really great idea after all.


25 posted on 06/03/2006 5:22:35 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: catholicfreeper; Liz; Howlin

If Democrats and their party seize control of the House, President Bush's agenda on Capitol Hill would fall into the hands of some of his most dogged opponents: clockwise from left, Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., 79, a Polish-American lawyer with a reputation for making witnesses quiver and the once and maybe future chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee; Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., a die-hard liberal from New York's Harlem with 35 years in the House poised to grab the helm of the Ways and Means Committee, which has a sweeping portfolio... taxes, trade, Social Security, Medicare and welfare; Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., one of the few remaining 'Watergate babies' swept into Congress in 1974, who is in line to head the Education and the Workforce Committee; and Rep. David Obey, D-Wisc., the unapologetic liberal from Wisconsin, who is eager to retake the gavel of the powerful Appropriations Committee, which holds the reins on government spending. (AP Photo/Files)
26 posted on 06/03/2006 7:52:39 PM PDT by Libloather (They can't privatize Social Security but they can find a way to give it to illegal aliens...)
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To: stands2reason

Did you attend your local cacuses?


27 posted on 06/03/2006 9:09:46 PM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: catholicfreeper; WKB; kmomma; MissyPrissy; Hawthorn; penelopesire; mrsmel; ToddBush; gbaker; ...

You had better not be a shill, or a current FReeper.


MS ping!


28 posted on 06/04/2006 12:19:08 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Valin

Caucuses of what?


29 posted on 06/04/2006 12:39:19 AM PDT by stands2reason (You cannot bully or insult conservatives into supporting your guy.)
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To: stands2reason

Your local political Caucus. That's where it all starts.
What's the old saying "policy is made by those who show up."


30 posted on 06/04/2006 6:02:04 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: catholicfreeper

Did my part.. Took my mom to the courthouse yesterday and we cast our absentee ballots for Espy.


31 posted on 06/04/2006 6:39:18 AM PDT by somniferum
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To: catholicfreeper

Doe's, they have gone nation-wide.


32 posted on 06/04/2006 7:31:05 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: catholicfreeper

"If the chips fall right for Democrats and their party seizes control of the House, President Bush's agenda on Capitol Hill would fall into the hands of some of his most dogged opponents. "

Amazing. He's not the least bit concerned. Perhaps he'll realize before it is too late that you can't go to the hardware store and expect to buy bread.


33 posted on 06/04/2006 2:59:14 PM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: catholicfreeper

Dump Murtha! Click the logo and donate to Diana Irey for Congress!

34 posted on 06/05/2006 10:43:49 AM PDT by petercooper (Cemeteries & the ignorant - comprising 2 of the largest Democrat voting blocs for the past 75 years.)
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