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Canada terror suspects may have had US contacts
Reuters ^ | June 3, 2006 | Reuters

Posted on 06/03/2006 12:42:47 PM PDT by FairOpinion

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Some members of a group of Canadians arrested on terror-related offenses may have been in contact with two U.S. suspects now in custody who were based in Georgia, the FBI said on Saturday.

"There is preliminary indication that some of the Canadian subjects may have had limited contact with the two people recently arrested from Georgia," said FBI spokesman Richard Kolko in an e-mail.

Syed Haris Ahmed, 21, of Atlanta, Georgia, was arrested March 23 after a grand jury returned an indictment charging him with material support of terrorism. He has pleaded innocent and has not yet come to trial.

Ehsanul Islam Sadequee, 19, left Georgia after Ahmed's indictment but was later taken into custody in Bangladesh and returned to the United States, where he was charged in New York's federal court with lying to federal officials in an ongoing terrorism investigation.

Sadequee and Ahmed traveled to Canada on March 13, 2005, to meet with Islamic extremists, according to a U.S. Justice Department statement.

The two "stayed with an individual with whom they were conspiring concerning travel to terrorist camps, and met with three subjects of an FBI international terrorism investigation and discussed strategic locations in the United States suitable for a possible terrorist strike," the statement said, citing the complaint against Sadequee.

U.S. Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said on Saturday there were no plans to change the U.S. security posture following Saturday's arrests in Canada.


TOPICS: Canada; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; canadaterror; gwot; jihad; jihadinamerica; jihadincanada; qlaeda; terrorism; terrorplot; terrorraid; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 06/03/2006 12:42:49 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Cindy

PING


2 posted on 06/03/2006 12:44:24 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

Data mining bad.

/sar


3 posted on 06/03/2006 12:44:58 PM PDT by petercooper (Cemeteries & the ignorant - comprising 2 of the largest Democrat voting blocs for the past 75 years.)
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To: petercooper

Just hang them now.


4 posted on 06/03/2006 12:47:51 PM PDT by jocko12
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To: FairOpinion

CAIR has been quiet for a few days


5 posted on 06/03/2006 12:48:41 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: petercooper

Exactly -- these latest arrests show the importance of being able to do wiretapping, listening in on phone conversations, monitor the computer use in the library, the internet, etc -- the stakes are too high.

The plot in the UK, was discovered with internet monitoring.

How Internet monitoring sparked a CSIS investigation into a suspected homegrown terror cell

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1642743/posts


Only total idiots and those who do want to see thousands of innocents killed would want to deny us the basic, critical tools to protect our people.


6 posted on 06/03/2006 12:49:00 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

Connecting the dots. We need to continue doing it and not worry about what the 'RATS think.


7 posted on 06/03/2006 12:52:48 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS! America's Lynch Mob.)
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To: FairOpinion

If you are talking to terrorists we want to know why.


8 posted on 06/03/2006 12:52:58 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
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To: FairOpinion

Just as long as we did not have to look into their library card check out history...I am cool with this! ;)


9 posted on 06/03/2006 12:56:22 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: MHGinTN

Marvin, here's the first lead I've seen with names.


10 posted on 06/03/2006 12:58:41 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: backhoe

Have at it.....


Arrested and charged with offences under the Criminal Code of Canada are:

1. Fahim Ahmad, 21, of Robinstone Drive, Toronto, Ontario;
2. Zakaria Amara, 20, of Periwinkle Crescent, Mississauga, Ontario;
3. Asad Ansari, 21, of Rosehurst Drive, Mississauga, Ontario;
4. Shareef Abdelhaleen, 30, of Lowville Heights, Mississauga, Ontario;
5. Qayyum Abdul Jamal, 43, of Montevideo Road, Mississauga, Ontario;
6. Mohammed Dirie, 22, Kingston, Ontario;
7. Yasim Abdi Mohamed, 24, Kingston, Ontario;
8. Jahmaal James, 23, of Trudelle Street, Toronto, Ontario;
9. Amin Mohamed Durrani, 19, of Stonehill Court, Toronto, Ontario;
10. Steven Vikash Chand alias Abdul Shakur, 25, of Treverton Drive, Toronto, Ontario;
11. Ahmad Mustafa Ghany, 21, of Robin Drive, Mississauga, Ontario;
12. Saad Khalid, 19, of Eclipse Avenue, Mississauga, Ontario.


11 posted on 06/03/2006 1:01:01 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: xcamel

12 posted on 06/03/2006 1:02:18 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: FairOpinion

I agree with an earlier thread I saw you on-somethings up. Tampa, Toronto and London, coupled with another "Jenin" accusation is just too pat, IMHO..


13 posted on 06/03/2006 1:08:51 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy-Gore-Clinton-Feingold-Murtha- Pelosi-the true Axis of Evil...)
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To: FairOpinion

Maybe we need a fence on the northern border....


14 posted on 06/03/2006 1:15:54 PM PDT by Peter vE (Ceterum censeo: delenda est Carthago.)
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To: backhoe
Here somehting from AFPhys on another thread:

Excerpt from: http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1149285034044&call_pageid=976163513378&col=969048863474 Four months after authorities began to fear that Canada might have its own homegrown terrorist cell, two Americans entered the picture. Ehsanul Islam Sadequee, a 19-year-old U.S. citizen of Bangladeshi descent who had attended high school in Ontario, and Syed Haris Ahmed, 21, a student at Georgia Tech, boarded a Greyhound bus in Atlanta on March 6, 2005, and travelled to Toronto to meet "like-minded Islamic extremists," a U.S. court document alleges.At the time the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force was watching the U.S. pair, Sadequee, according to court documents, was already on a no-fly list. But they crossed the border uneventfully and met three people associated with the group the Canadian authorities were watching. Ahmed later told authorities that the meetings were to discuss U.S. locations suitable for a terrorist strike, including oil refineries and military bases, court documents state. They also allegedly talked about how to dismantle the Global Positioning System in an effort to disrupt military and commercial communications and traffic, and their plans to go to Pakistan to train at "terrorist-sponsored camps." (The FBI claims Ahmed "later travelled to Pakistan in an attempt to receive just such training.") Ahmed is now in U.S. custody, indicted in March for material support of terrorism. He has pleaded not guilty.Sadequee is accused of making false statements in connection with a terrorism investigation. He was arrested in April in Bangladesh and handed over to American authorities — a transfer his lawyer later characterized in court as being closer to a kidnapping than an arrest. Sadequee was flown to Alaska, according to U.S. news reports, and, having waived a preliminary hearing, consented to being transferred to Brooklyn, N.Y. He has been denied bail and is awaiting trial.

Digging has begun ...

15 posted on 06/03/2006 1:16:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: FairOpinion

Well let's hope that our authorities are not listening in to any suspicious phone calls or text messages. That would be just too upsetting to the ACLU types.


16 posted on 06/03/2006 1:19:14 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: FairOpinion
I wonder if the US catch had anything to do with monitored phone calls?
17 posted on 06/03/2006 1:32:32 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Peter vE
Maybe we need a fence on the northern border....

Practically impossible, but I suspect you know this.

18 posted on 06/03/2006 1:33:47 PM PDT by Dosa26
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To: Mike Darancette

"If you are talking to terrorists we want to know why."

From all levels like these young bozo Islamofascists to leftwing elites in Congress or controlling our MSM.

The hate America liberal elites and their street thugs feared Able Danger, and our ability to track whom the terrorist communicate with.



19 posted on 06/03/2006 1:40:37 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: xcamel

Damn Scot/Irish terrorists again. :)

"Arrested and charged with offences under the Criminal Code of Canada are:

1. Fahim Ahmad, 21, of Robinstone Drive, Toronto, Ontario;
2. Zakaria Amara, 20, of Periwinkle Crescent, Mississauga, Ontario;
3. Asad Ansari, 21, of Rosehurst Drive, Mississauga, Ontario;
4. Shareef Abdelhaleen, 30, of Lowville Heights, Mississauga, Ontario;
5. Qayyum Abdul Jamal, 43, of Montevideo Road, Mississauga, Ontario;
6. Mohammed Dirie, 22, Kingston, Ontario;
7. Yasim Abdi Mohamed, 24, Kingston, Ontario;
8. Jahmaal James, 23, of Trudelle Street, Toronto, Ontario;
9. Amin Mohamed Durrani, 19, of Stonehill Court, Toronto, Ontario;
10. Steven Vikash Chand alias Abdul Shakur, 25, of Treverton Drive, Toronto, Ontario;
11. Ahmad Mustafa Ghany, 21, of Robin Drive, Mississauga, Ontario;
12. Saad Khalid, 19, of Eclipse Avenue, Mississauga, Ontario."


20 posted on 06/03/2006 1:42:48 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: xcamel

Something very big was in the works. Both in Canada and in the US. Hopefully the whole house of cards will fall once we start the interrogations.


21 posted on 06/03/2006 1:43:15 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: xcamel
I don't see a lot of Smiths or Jones or Johnsons in there.

There is a commonality of names but I just can't put my finger on it.
22 posted on 06/03/2006 1:46:29 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

This fella doesn't agre something big is in the works: "U.S. Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said on Saturday there were no plans to change the U.S. security posture following Saturday's arrests in Canada." I agree with you however, there are too many seemingly unrelated incidents occurring that point to some sort of planning by a central figure(s).


23 posted on 06/03/2006 1:54:29 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

btt


24 posted on 06/03/2006 2:01:28 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: MHGinTN

Lets make that link hot.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1149285034044&call_pageid=976163513378&col=969048863474

There is MUCH more information in this story by reporter MICHELLE SHEPHARD by 1AM this morning. It seems she had foreknowledge of this bust and kept her mouth shut. Kudos to her.


25 posted on 06/03/2006 2:06:20 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: MHGinTN

That seemed like a bit of a surprising note to me, too.

We'll see.

This really has the feel of massive coordination, though.

The story I linked above from TheStar really indicts anybody who is unwilling to give security the ability to discover these plots. Much of this was done by data mining it seems - probably more than has been specifically released.

We're really going to have to crack down in every way on these plotters - whether they're using phones, internet, mosques, private "camps", libraries, or any other means to disseminate information and to coordinate. By that, I don't mean simply laws, but everyone from private citizens thru politicians thru judges must bend over backwards to give law enforcement the latitude they need in order to eliminate these increasingly sophisticated attacks on civilization.


26 posted on 06/03/2006 2:14:07 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: PeteB570

Yeah, I know. I was thinking the same thing when I looked at that list of names a couple hours ago.

I think it was when I saw "Steven" in #10 that the name thing just suddenly jumped out at me. Some kind of commonality amongst the names of the arrested... Possibly my imagination (and yours)... of course some would say we're prone to discrimination to even notice.


27 posted on 06/03/2006 2:17:32 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: FairOpinion
And our borders are still wide open. No, the Senate morons didn't notice...

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

28 posted on 06/03/2006 2:18:41 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Grampa Dave

Yup: it's the Irish and the Swedes yet again...


29 posted on 06/03/2006 2:18:52 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys

More detail:


FBI Connects Georgia Arrests to Canadian Plot

http://rapidrecon.threatswatch.org/2006/06/fbi-connects-georgia-arrests-t/


Over the last month, investigators have traced Ahmed’s path from an Atlanta mosque to Toronto to Washington, D.C. to Pakistan.

According to a March 23 affidavit unsealed April 21, Ahmed met Sadequee at Al-Farooq Masjid mosque in Atlanta. Then, the two suspects traveled to Toronto in March 2005 to discuss potential terrorist targets with “like-minded Islamic extremists.” Lastly, Ahmed attempted to receive terrorism training during a trip to Pakistan last year.

Ahmed’s March 23 arrest was not made public until April 20 and he is being held at an undisclosed location by the U.S. Marshal Service while he awaits trial. He pleaded not guilty on April 19, and no trial date has been set.

Canada’s National Post also took a look at the Georgia-Canada connection in Terrorism’s ‘new guard’, published first on May 4, 2006.

Unlike the old guard of terrorists, who were immigrants and refugees who brought to Canada the conflicts of their homelands, the new generation consists largely of Canadian-born radical Muslims of various ethnicities, as well as converts who have adopted the extremist interpretation of Islam.

The documents also support recent claims by U.S. counterterrorism officials that extremists are operating inside Canada’s borders. The presence of Islamic terrorists in Canada was noted two weeks ago, when the U.S. Department of Justice announced the arrests of two Georgia youths.

Ehsanul Islam Sadequee, 19, and Syed Haris Ahmed, 21, are accused of traveling [sic] to Canada last March for “terrorism-related planning and co-ordination” with local radicals.

The FBI says while in Toronto they discussed terrorist training and plots to bomb U.S. military facilities and oil refineries.


30 posted on 06/03/2006 2:23:22 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: PeteB570
There is a commonality of names but I just can't put my finger on it.

LOL! Well, Inuit Tribal names, they are not!

31 posted on 06/03/2006 2:30:36 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy-Gore-Clinton-Feingold-Murtha- Pelosi-the true Axis of Evil...)
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To: Dosa26
Maybe we need a fence on the northern border....

Maybe we should stop giving out green cards to 100,000 foreign Muslims every year.

32 posted on 06/03/2006 2:34:49 PM PDT by RodgerD (Reject the Democrat's Migration Explosion Act of 2006. No to 70 million new third-world aliens.)
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To: AFPhys

My father was Swedish
My mother was Irish
I am from Canada.(the legal way)
I work at a US Port of entry.......
i guess I will not use my phone for awhile.


33 posted on 06/03/2006 2:45:11 PM PDT by Americas Frontline
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To: FairOpinion

Nearly 24 hours have passed, and the Canadians still refuse to release the ethnicities or national origin of the "canadian residents" who attempted to commit terrorist acts. Is there some "Terrorist Shield Law" in Canada?


34 posted on 06/03/2006 2:54:15 PM PDT by montag813
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To: FairOpinion

Incidentally, what religion were these 19 suspects? Baptist, Methodist, Nazarene, Mennonite? They wouldn't fit any particular profile woould they?


35 posted on 06/03/2006 2:57:16 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: 2nd Amendment


Muslim names of Canadian terror suspects buried in media reports

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1642876/posts

Once you comb through the various news stories, it becomes clear, as any reasonable person would suspect, that all these perps where Mohammedans. Their names are as follows:

Yasin Mohamed, 24, of Toronto

Ali Dirie, 22, whose last address was in Markham

Mohammad Momin Khawaja, an Ottawa-area software operator

Fahim Ahmad, a 22-year-old Scarborough father

Ahmad Ghany, Mississauga

Zakaria Amara, Mississauga

Qayyum Abdul Jamal, 43, of Mississauga,


36 posted on 06/03/2006 3:00:42 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: 2nd Amendment

And here is a more complete list:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1642895/posts?page=11#11


37 posted on 06/03/2006 3:01:42 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: RodgerD

Maybe we should stop giving out green cards to 100,000 foreign Muslims every year.

Is that all...I would have thought it was higher. Anyways I would be fine with halting all of them except covert contacts giving important information, then only letting them in after they have been educated and reformed out of the cult.

38 posted on 06/03/2006 3:15:13 PM PDT by Dosa26
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To: FairOpinion
"The terrorists are still plotting."

Yes, they have not stopped or rested. However, 9/11 has never been repeated--thanks to President George W. Bush and his excellent leadership.

39 posted on 06/03/2006 3:28:55 PM PDT by Savage Beast (The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America!)
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To: FairOpinion
I'm a little concerned about Tue, the 6th. It seems like a day terrorist might find interesting
40 posted on 06/03/2006 3:31:56 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: AFPhys
Great catch. I wonder, does the sewer bilge spittled out by the likes of Murtha and the democrap party goons in media whoredom help to 'radicalize youth'? You betcha! Thanks Murtha/democrap party for aiding and abetting the Islamofascists. Bastards trash Marines to empower their political agenda, with the side effect of propagating false imagery about 'mistreating Muslims'.
41 posted on 06/03/2006 3:46:04 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: petercooper
I hope they got a FISA warrant..

/sarcasm.

42 posted on 06/03/2006 4:20:44 PM PDT by Dog
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To: CindyDawg

Al Qaeda has this thing for Tuesdays..


43 posted on 06/03/2006 4:22:08 PM PDT by Dog
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To: MHGinTN

Copied the link- thanks!


44 posted on 06/03/2006 4:48:43 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: MHGinTN; backhoe; Cindy
Backoe if you would could you include in your links this link..

Abu Mus’ab al-Suri and the Third Generation of Salafi-Jihadists

Al- Suri talked of a Third Generation jihadists taking up the fight in this post 9/11 world...I think this is who inspired these Canadian jihadists...

Cindy this might be of interest to you and your group..

45 posted on 06/03/2006 4:59:50 PM PDT by Dog
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. Notorious for his online teaching courses, in which he expertly equips the new generation of jihadis and al-Qaeda loyalists with knowledge, insights and useful practical training, Nasar(al-Suri) is the most important live link between the old al-Qaeda and the emerging new al-Qaeda. Understanding Mustafa Setmariam Nasar is key to gaining a better insight into the evolving universe of Salafi-jihadism.

Al-Suri is in US custody captured last year in Quetta Pakistan.

46 posted on 06/03/2006 5:02:26 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Grampa Dave

not a Smith anywhere in this listing, appears to be a racially biased list of Muslims....


47 posted on 06/03/2006 5:06:31 PM PDT by thinking
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To: Peter vE
Maybe we need a fence on the northern border....

We wouldn't need fences at all, if our government would strictly enforce existing laws.

48 posted on 06/03/2006 5:09:59 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: FairOpinion

I'm thankful authorities foiled the plot, but mystified why it took so long.

Two weeks prior to 9-11 a woman I spoke to frequently by phone told me of a large gathering of wealthy Arab Muslims in Toronto, where she lives. She is Jewish, but had met one of the men present for the gathering. They were together a number of times socially during the period of this gathering. The man said she would not be permitted to attend as the participants did not want their identities known, and told her the purpose of the "summit" was to conclude a plan to deal with the US backing of Israel. The gathering lasted the entire week.

Immediately following the events of 9-11 I contacted the FBI and related the information this woman had told me. She told me she had no interest in telling the authorities. She was fearful of what might happen to her and didn't want to get involved. It seemed to me then and now that it was not by coincidence the head of the terrorist cell that participated in the events of 9-11 came into the US from Canada barely a week after the "summit" concluded. To this day I believe there was a direct connection between the attacks of 9-11 and the "summit" that occurred in Toronto. To this day I would like to know who participated as the woman said she was told the men were prominent in the business and governments of Arab nations. She told me this prior to the 9-11 attacks.

I ended all communication with the woman when she would not share the information she had with Canadian or US authorities.


49 posted on 06/03/2006 6:09:24 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: backtothestreets

I would agree that the odds are that there was a connection.

Your information to the FBI, may well have gotten them digging and probably found out more about it, which, of course they never come back and share with you or others, but you did the right thing and may have helped them start paying more attention to the Canadian Muslim extremists.


50 posted on 06/03/2006 6:19:20 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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