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AIDS Toll May Reach 100 Million in Africa
Fox News/AP ^ | Saturday, June 03, 2006

Posted on 06/03/2006 3:08:12 PM PDT by pleikumud

JOHANNESBURG, South Africa — It began quietly, when a statistical anomaly pointed to a mysterious syndrome that attacked the immune systems of gay men in California. No one imagined 25 years ago that AIDS would become the deadliest epidemic in history.

Since June 5, 1981, HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, has killed more than 25 million people, infected 40 million others and left a legacy of unspeakable loss, hardship, fear and despair.

Its spread was hastened by ignorance, prejudice, denial and the freedoms of the sexual revolution. Along the way from oddity to pandemic, AIDS changed they way people live and love.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; aids; california; deathtoll; disease; gay; hiv; sex
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Gay sex = disease and death. Government should not endorse gay sex by legalizing gay marriage. The law should only recognize marriage between a man and a woman. Congress should view gay sex for what it is - a threat to public health.
1 posted on 06/03/2006 3:08:15 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: pleikumud

While it's easier to spread HIV between gay men, most of the victims of the disease in Africa are heterosexual.


2 posted on 06/03/2006 3:10:02 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: pleikumud
No one imagined 25 years ago that AIDS would become the deadliest epidemic in history.

I don't imagine it now. Other epidemics killed far more.

3 posted on 06/03/2006 3:13:18 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: pleikumud

Contrary to what some believe, that **** does not come from ****ing apes and monkeys; it comes from EATING them. At least originally. The trade in "bush meat" has to be stopped.


4 posted on 06/03/2006 3:16:25 PM PDT by tomzz
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To: pleikumud

Effed up culture is a major cause.

Strange beliefs that virgin girls should have sex the first time with strange magic men is one of the more extreme ones.

African culture must change or there will never be change in regard to aids there.


5 posted on 06/03/2006 3:17:11 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: pleikumud
Shoulda nipped it in the bud. Quarantines should have been done. it would be much less of a problem now if PC attitudes hadn't stifled early action.
6 posted on 06/03/2006 3:17:55 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: operation clinton cleanup

And the "chicken flu pandemic" is on the way! I'm not going to worry about "global warming." We're doomed! DOOMED!


7 posted on 06/03/2006 3:18:41 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS! America's Lynch Mob.)
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To: tomzz

I had to read that twice. You get aids from eating monkeys - seriously? Please cite a source.


8 posted on 06/03/2006 3:19:05 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: pleikumud
...AIDS changed they way people live and love.

You can't catch HIV by just "loving" someone. Boink! Boink!

9 posted on 06/03/2006 3:21:29 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS! America's Lynch Mob.)
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To: pleikumud
Interesting, is it not, that despite all the numbers tossed about, the population continues to go up.

You don't suppose someone could be trying to play a game of aid-scam?

10 posted on 06/03/2006 3:23:02 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: Zeroisanumber
Um, why has the population of Africa continued to expand on the same 3% exponential as before, since the arrival of this disease?

The number of deaths ascribed to aids outside of Africa (where the definition is different) has fallen to 800,000 in the last year.

The statistic I'd like to see is what portion of deaths outside Africa, ascribed to aids, have any immediate cause of final illness other than TB. Preferably with a whole time series.

I've no doubt that infection with the HIV virus is endemic in Africa. What I doubt is any substantially increased mortality, rather than redefinition of causes of death.

11 posted on 06/03/2006 3:24:11 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: pleikumud
When heterosexuals began to contract the disease through blood transfusions and other medical procedures, they were often portrayed as "innocent" victims of a disease spread by the immoral and licentious behavior of others.

while infectious diseases don't "care" about morality or anything else, the above "portrayal" is absolutely true: those who have contracted HIV through rampant promiscuity, odd sexual practices, and IV drug abuse bought their tickets and are unworthy of much in the way of pity; those who contracted HIV in other manners ARE innocent victims - largely of the political correctness which prevented universal blood-testing and quarantine measures.

12 posted on 06/03/2006 3:25:26 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: gotribe

I have seen articles connecting the two recently although I'd be hard put to put my finger on one of them quickly. Nonetheless it's a very easy connection to make. AIDS originated as a disease of apes and monkeys. You watch those PBS things about the trade in "bush meat" up and down the Congo river and ask yourself how much of that stuff ever gets cooked properly, and you just don't need to be Albert Einstein to connect the dots.


13 posted on 06/03/2006 3:25:56 PM PDT by tomzz
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Effed up culture is a major cause.

Strange beliefs that virgin girls should have sex the first time with strange magic men is one of the more extreme ones.

African culture must change or there will never be change in regard to aids there.


So much for all cultures being equally valid. Here's a case where the culture itself might wipe out it's own members.

14 posted on 06/03/2006 3:26:43 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I'm still trying to find the bread line to stand in since job growth has slowed.
15 posted on 06/03/2006 3:32:47 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: tomzz

I guess it'd be like eating squirrel.


16 posted on 06/03/2006 3:35:10 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

LOL! I know. On the other hand, job growth might have slowed because employers have become more cautious about hiring illegal aliens.


17 posted on 06/03/2006 3:35:10 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS! America's Lynch Mob.)
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To: gotribe; tomzz
I had to read that twice. You get aids from eating monkeys - seriously? Please cite a source.

IIRC, it was more from bushmeat hunters getting bitten while hunting or otherwise getting monkey (or chimp?) blood into an open wound. I don't think it was from eating them per se.

18 posted on 06/03/2006 3:38:15 PM PDT by jennyp (Twig-gy Twiggy, Twig-gy Twiggy, Twig-gy Twiggy, Twig-gy Twiggy)
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To: pleikumud
In Africa I hear it isn't as much a gay sex issue at all.

Problem is their hygiene is bad and they often have open wounds on their bodies.
A guy with sores on his body goes make whoopee with an aids infected whore and passes it then to women who he is either dating or is married to.
The women of such men then give birth with AIDs to a baby with AIDs in many cases.

Then the men thing if they rape a virgin, that the aids will go away, so they go all Muslim and rape young girls and infect them.

All this mind you before the word gay gets into the picture.
This is why Africa is dying so much faster than elsewhere IMO.
19 posted on 06/03/2006 3:40:08 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

You must read Randy Shilts' "And The Band Played On". My take after reading it, albeit years ago, was that the homosexual community bore a lot (not all) of blame, and spread it by not listening to the medicos. PC had nothing to do w/ it. The gays did not want to sacrifice their hard-won "rights" and act in an responsible manner by closing the bath houses.


20 posted on 06/03/2006 3:40:48 PM PDT by synbad600
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To: pleikumud

Wake me up when it approaches 99.9 million so I can get a beer to cry in.


21 posted on 06/03/2006 3:42:28 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: pleikumud
Too bad we have to watch them die rather than "impose our values on them". Abstaining from sex until marriage then not having sex outside of marriage is fantastically effective at preventing AIDS
22 posted on 06/03/2006 3:44:14 PM PDT by Jaysun (Failure has gone to their heads.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
I don't imagine it now. Other epidemics killed far more.

Communism killed more.
23 posted on 06/03/2006 3:44:53 PM PDT by Jaysun (Failure has gone to their heads.)
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To: tomzz

A recent study has linked SIV in chimpanzees from the Kinshasa, Congo area as being the likely original animal source. Tribes in the area, hunting chimps for food, starting dying of AIDS as early as the 1930s. Only a few genetic changes were required to allow the SIV chimp virus to jump to humans and then become infectious between humans. The first verified case is a man from Kinshasa in 1959.


24 posted on 06/03/2006 3:45:38 PM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: pleikumud
Its spread was hastened by ignorance, prejudice, denial, freedoms of the sexual revolution

And doing the bone dance with Mister stinker.

25 posted on 06/03/2006 3:47:05 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: synbad600

I kinda disagree. If one even suggested quarantines, identifying and testing of all partners, etc., one was labeled a homophobe. Testing was done, maybe still is, by numbers, not names. The gay community raised an incredible stink when any real measures were brought up. At about this time, I was diagnosed with TB. I had broken some ribs coughing, and gotten an xray at Milwaukee General. They gave me pain pills and sent me home. The next day they called, and asked me to stop by to dicuss my xrays. Upon entering the hospital, I was escorted by a guard to the TB ward, and did not get out until 7 months later. My TB was diagnosed as atypical, and I probably caught it gardening. Not contagious. Lilies, who knew? Point being, TB is curable, AIDS ain't!


26 posted on 06/03/2006 3:58:34 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: neutrino
Interesting, is it not, that despite all the numbers tossed about, the population continues to go up.

You don't suppose someone could be trying to play a game of aid-scam?

The new medicines we have today keeps aids patients alive longer and also healthier. These patients can continue to spread the disease as none of the medicine cures aids.

27 posted on 06/03/2006 4:04:21 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

". . . one was labeled a homophobe."

Exactly. That's why proper behavior wasn't exercised, by the gay community. They had an "out" for precisely that reason.


28 posted on 06/03/2006 4:04:33 PM PDT by synbad600
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To: A CA Guy

As I understand it, some African men have a preference for "dry sex," in which the woman is not properly lubricated. Unfortunately this can lead to small tears in the delicate vaginal lining, which means the AIDS virus is more easily introduced into the bloodstream.


29 posted on 06/03/2006 4:08:39 PM PDT by Fairview
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To: texastoo

"May" reach 100 million.....murtha "may" be elected president someday......kerry "may" release his military records......michael moore "may" lose weight......


30 posted on 06/03/2006 4:09:54 PM PDT by RacerX1128
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To: pleikumud

Perhaps this is one reason why the great religions of the world ALL condemn homosexuality.


31 posted on 06/03/2006 4:14:04 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Memo to GOP: Don't ask me for any more money until you secure our Southern border.)
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To: Fairview

In Africa they have lots of cleanliness issues.

So if couples are making whoopee with all kinds of soars over their bodies, your dry issue is only one of many causes.

Rash to rash contact passes Aids and there is lots of that festering in Africa.


32 posted on 06/03/2006 4:14:09 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: pleikumud
But no run on coffins, apparently, and the rivers aren't clogged with bodies.
33 posted on 06/03/2006 4:15:04 PM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: RacerX1128

Who are you talking to? I didn't use the word "may".


34 posted on 06/03/2006 4:16:00 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Strange beliefs that virgin girls should have sex the first time with strange magic men is one of the more extreme ones.

And the tribal wife idea needs to end to. Gee whiz - maybe that old repressive Bible was on to something and maybe not all ideas are equal (except in Hollywood).
35 posted on 06/03/2006 4:18:33 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: pleikumud

Gay sex = disease and death. Government should not endorse gay sex by legalizing gay marriage. The law should only recognize marriage between a man and a woman. Congress should view gay sex for what it is - a threat to public health.




Can't blame the gays on this one...these are mostly hetrosexuals getting it. Sorry to disappoint you. Maybe next time or another country. Silliness. I don't approve of homosexuality either, but at least I get my facts straight. There is a saying if you can't say something accurate, don't say anything at all...


36 posted on 06/03/2006 4:22:25 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: texastoo

sorry, i was referring to the headline...


37 posted on 06/03/2006 4:25:05 PM PDT by RacerX1128
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To: gotribe

My money is on Tomzz is a troll not yet discovered by the Viking kitties....March 2006?


38 posted on 06/03/2006 4:25:20 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Illegal Aliens....STFU!)
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To: RacerX1128

O.K. No problem.


39 posted on 06/03/2006 4:26:52 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Zeroisanumber
".....most of the victims of the disease in Africa are heterosexual."

Michael Fumento predicted the African spread of AIDS in detail in his 1989 The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS, one of the most censored books of modern times. It's still available, but not many local libraies or bookstores have it.

40 posted on 06/03/2006 4:32:23 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: King Prout
While infectious diseases don't "care" about morality or anything else, the above "portrayal" is absolutely true: those who have contracted HIV through rampant promiscuity, odd sexual practices, and IV drug abuse bought their tickets and are unworthy of much in the way of pity...

What a horrible thing to say, you...you...hater! (breaking into tears)

/professional AIDS cash scrounger mode

41 posted on 06/03/2006 4:40:57 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Twenty years in the Navy. Never drunk on duty - never sober on liberty)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Upon entering the hospital, I was escorted by a guard to the TB ward, and did not get out until 7 months later.

Wow! How long ago was that? Does this still happen today?

42 posted on 06/03/2006 4:45:29 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: GATOR NAVY

anyone who since (I'll be generous) 1988 has contracted HIV through promiscuity, odd sex, or needles has bought the ride he has received. period. paragraph. end of story. I have pity for those who get infected through other, non behaviorally-related, methods, but I shall not squander my concern on foolish risk-takers getting a full set of lumps - be they sodomites, junkies, smokers, "rooftop runners", "human shields", etc...


43 posted on 06/03/2006 4:48:23 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: AmericaUnited

It was about 35+ years ago. I don't know if it still goes on. Really screwed up my life. And I wasn't even contagious!


44 posted on 06/03/2006 4:51:29 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: pleikumud

Yep, and after 100 it'll hit 200, yawn.


45 posted on 06/03/2006 4:53:13 PM PDT by gilor (Pull the wool over your own eyes!)
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To: A CA Guy

In Africa I hear it isn't as much a gay sex issue at all.

You heard wrong.

The transmission of aids is overwhelmingly by sexual contact.

It is relatively difficult to contract as a male during heterosexual relations.

Males, nonetheless are the primary communicators of the disease.

They contract it by anal intercourse with other males.

They then spread the disease to everyone with whom they have relations.


46 posted on 06/03/2006 4:53:43 PM PDT by TFMcGuire (Either you are an American, or you are a liberal)
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To: pleikumud

A lot of Africans get AIDS because of the way they have sex. The males want to "think" that they are having sex with a virgin. They will put things in the vagina of the women to increase friction to simulate the "feel" of a virgin. This causes bleeding and thus the transmission of the disease among heterosexuals.


47 posted on 06/03/2006 4:57:22 PM PDT by LetsRok
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To: gotribe

I had to read that twice. You get aids from eating monkeys.

How bizarre these theories are.

Unless of course monkeys are not monkeys.

One contracts aids by promiscuous behavior or contact, direct or indirect, with someone who has been promiscuous.

This disease is one more STD and one more wakeup call to men that When God instituted marriage and fidelity inside and outside marriage, He knew what He was talking about.



Sorry


48 posted on 06/03/2006 4:59:20 PM PDT by TFMcGuire (Either you are an American, or you are a liberal)
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To: Fairview

Especially when the woman is not a woman and the vaginal lining is not the vaginal lining but the intestinal mucosa.


49 posted on 06/03/2006 5:03:09 PM PDT by TFMcGuire (Either you are an American, or you are a liberal)
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To: pleikumud
It began quietly, when a statistical anomaly pointed to a mysterious syndrome that attacked the immune systems of gay men in California.

Actually, and it's well documented, the AIDS scourge initial breeding ground (in North America) was in the bath houses of lower Manhattan. It quickly spread to the San Fransisco area ... thus the reference to California. So my question ... why is there no condemnation of the gay life style in the liberal media? Could it be many of them are gay or just pansy liberals?
Without question it was (is) the gay community that foisted this worldwide AIDS pandemic that today is killing millions of people around the world. Once again where's the condemnation?

50 posted on 06/03/2006 5:09:28 PM PDT by BluH2o
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