Posted on 06/04/2006 6:45:23 AM PDT by IrishMike
Canadian authorities yesterday declared they had foiled a chilling bomb plot aimed at several targets in their country - busting an al Qaeda-inspired cell with likely connections to a pair of Atlanta-area men indicted on terror charges. The 17 suspects - including five youths 18 or under - were busted Friday night and yesterday morning at locations in and around Toronto, following a delivery of three tons of ammonium nitrate and other explosive components.
The tonnage was three times the amount used in the 1995 bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City.
New York City police said they were aware of the arrests, but "nothing in the investigation has caused the NYPD to change its counter-terrorism posture in New York," said spokesman Paul Browne.
Evidence of the Canadian cell's bomb-making materials, including a cellphone bomb detonator, was displayed at a news conference in Toronto yesterday.
"The modus operandi is very similar to other attacks that have taken place around the world," said Mike McDonell, assistant commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
Targets reportedly included Canada's Parliament buildings in Ottawa and the downtown Toronto offices of its spy agency, Canadian Security Intelligence Service. Media reports said a major tourist site in Toronto was also a target.
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RoP on the march again
Native born Americans or here on expired student visas?
One car bomb in Hollywood on Oscar night and the libs would be screaming for blood.
What I want to know is how these people got thier hands on 3000 lbs of Ammonium Nitrate. After OKC, I thought there were worldwide safeguards put into place to prevent exactly this kind of situation from happening.
Maybe it was the tracking of the AN that resulted in the raid; I have not heard that yet, but I suppose it is possible...
.....What I want to know is how these people got thier hands on 3000 lbs of Ammonium Nitrate. After OKC, I thought there were worldwide safeguards put into place to prevent exactly this kind of situation from happening....
Good point, I'm not sure just how or if there are any Canadian laws, regulations and/ or restrictions on chemicals, specially chemicals with potential hazardous or lethal use.
CANADA
I guess it wouldn't be that hard to accumulate so much, if you bought one or two bags from 50 different stores, over the course of a few weeks.
Discussion here on the ease with which it can be done.
A classic case of the media "inventing" the truth. This three times the amount quote has been repeated over and over until it is now accepted fact.
Google "Murrah Building Bombing", and you will get numerous links which report the OKC bombing was around 4800 to 5000 pounds of ammonium nitrate. Don't mean to downplay the Canadian bust, but if would help the cause if the reporting was a little more truthful/accurate.
What is the major tourist attraction in Toronto?
GOOD OBSERVATIONS.........Don't mean to downplay the Canadian bust, but if would help the cause if the reporting was a little more truthful/accurate....
But, then again, someone noticed.
They are in the slammer.
Ammonium nitrate isn't considered a hazardous chemical. As a farmer, I have to have a pesticide license to buy chemicals but anyone can buy fertilizer. Of course, in most places where you could get 3000 lbs of fertilizer they would know whether or not someone was a farmer and had a legitimate use for it.
Add some diesel and you've got the winning hand: ANFO.
.....Ammonium nitrate isn't considered a hazardous chemical. As a farmer, I have to have a pesticide license to buy chemicals but anyone can buy fertilizer. Of course, in most places where you could get 3000 lbs of fertilizer they would know whether or not someone was a farmer and had a legitimate use for it.......
That is very true. Being in the HVA/C business, having need for many types of chemicals (biocides, algaecides, corrosion control and inhibitors) people in my industry are required to have EPA licenses which require written tests in purchasing, storage, transportation and use of chemicals. We also have to maintain usage logs to explain consumption, all of which have to be presented for review and inspection to Federal EPA and state / local agencies.
Probably the most visible attraction in Toronto is the CN Tower. I wonder if they had plans to try to topple it.
Nice Picture
For 3 metric tonnes that would be 120 bags which works out to 10 bags for each adult that was arrested. If each of them drove around the Greater Toronto Area and bought one or two bags from each store that they visited, they would not be noticed at all, especially at this time of year.
They could even hit the same stores if they went in at different times or on different days.
Additionally, they had a rural property which they were using for training purposes. Quantities purchased that would draw attention in an urban store might not draw attention if purchased from a rural farm supplier.
If I recall the last domestic attack was aimed at New York City. Do you hear any calls for getting tough on terrorists coming from New York City?
One car bomb in Hollywood on Oscar night and the libs would be screaming for blood.
They'd just blame Bush and send all their money to CAIR.
About two(2) weeks ago I had a phone survey about touring Ontario Canada and Toronto in particular. When I mentioned something about crime and terrorism, the survey taker seemed to imply that was a growing reason for the recent fall in tourism. Toronto used to be considered a very safe city. Just a quick reading of Canadian newspapers and you will see stories of not so nice things happening near and around Toronto. It's still a very nice city but not the utopia it was once believed.
The CN Tower
The Toronto Zoo
Canada's Wonderland
The Air Canada Center
The Toronto Islands
Ontario Place
The Eaton Center
Canada ping!
Please FReepmail me to get on or off this ping list.
Canadians will never wake up. Even if (heaven forbid) a group of islamofascists suceeds in inflicting a 9/11 on Canada, Canadians will just blame Bush for it. The spin has already begun. A lot of Canadian bloggers are taking the opinion that they are being targeted because they allowed Bush to "bully" them into Afghanistan.
Well, aren't you a charmer.
Signed up today to bash Canadians?
You've made a total of 4 posts here, and they have all been full of hatred and misinformation.
I can't see you lasting long here Newbie.
Three tons metric = 6600 lbs vs the 4800 to 5000 used in the OKC bombing. The difference is less that 1/3 more siezed, not 3X.
less that = less than. Fat fingers.
No they wouldn't. They'd be screaming for us to better understand and deal with the "root causes." The "root causes," of course, being how terrible the USA is and how much the rest of the world hates us because we're "imperialist scum."
Don't know about a charmer...more like a snake...
BTA75
Since Jun 4, 2006
Canadians will learn nothing from this.
Canadians DO hate Americans more than you can imagine.
Canada will stick their heads back in the sand just like they always do.
and..."Canadians will never wake up." from this thread.
Reincarnated troll?
Looks like a retread to me.
that clown is a mooselimb loving troll that came on today to stir the pot. Somebody with the data should check him out.
I just reported him to admin.
Reminds this of this one.
Coincidentally(?) banned just days after the other thread that this troll resurrected today.
Good catch Kanawa!
When we reported for jury duty the next month everyone wanted to know how I knew.
Twelve men and five youths arrested overnight face charges for plotting Al-Qaeda-inspired "terrorist attacks" on several locations in Ontario, Canada's economic hub, officials have said. In this picture Ottawa police make an earlier arrest.(AFP/File/Andre Forget)
Will they be convicted of conspiracy to commit war crimes against civilians?
You may be onto something there! Osama Load a Dung wants the West to be in 'all out war' with Islam and nothing would tip the scales faster than to bring the leftist of America on board by blowing up Hollyweird or exterminating a building full of leftist in full apologetics for terrorists mode.
Don't forget the weather patterns flowing from the Toronto area because nuke energy generating sites are suspected as targets.
What about that stadium with the retractable roof? Are there any large events planned there in the near future which would be likely targets?
Welcome to FR.
Sky Dome.
Home of the Blue Jays.
I have no idea what they had scheduled.
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