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The Organic Food Fad is officially dead
Federal Review ^ | Sunday, June 04, 2006

Posted on 06/04/2006 11:08:53 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

The New York Times reports that Wal-Mart, the bane of all limousine liberals and aging hippies, has entered the "crunchy granola" market:

Beginning later this year, Wal-Mart plans to roll out a complete selection of organic foods — food certified by the U.S.D.A. to have been grown without synthetic pesticides or fertilizers — in its nearly 4,000 stores. Just as significant, the company says it will price all this organic food at an eye-poppingly tiny premium over its already-cheap conventional food: the organic Cocoa Puffs and Oreos will cost only 10 percent more than the conventional kind. Organic food will soon be available to the tens of millions of Americans who now cannot afford it — indeed, who have little or no idea what the term even means. Organic food, which represents merely 2.5 percent of America's half-trillion-dollar food economy, is about to go mainstream.

With organic food about to become as "mainstream" and "middle America" as Ford Explorers, Kraft singles and "American Idol," how long before the so-called "elites" find it no longer has the same "counterculture" appeal as Volvos, brie and NPR?


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1 posted on 06/04/2006 11:08:55 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I refust to buy or eat the garbage.


2 posted on 06/04/2006 11:10:35 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I doubt that people who buy REAL organic food will go to buy it at Wal-Mart or will trust the "certification" from U.S.D.A..
3 posted on 06/04/2006 11:11:59 AM PDT by A. Pole (Gore:We are the most powerful force of nature.We are changing the relationship between Earth and Sun)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
It's akin what happened in mid/late 60s, when dressing like a beatnik became commonplace. That officially ended the beatnik generation. .....it just wasn't cool anymore.
4 posted on 06/04/2006 11:12:41 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Better yet, grow your own.


5 posted on 06/04/2006 11:13:29 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Some fresh organic stuff such as strawberries and tomatoes tastes better .

Mostly because it is grown locally.

Organic processed food is mostly a rip-off.

6 posted on 06/04/2006 11:13:38 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Every lady in this land hath 20 nails on each hand five and twenty on hand and feet)
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To: Mr. Mojo
It's akin what happened in mid/late 60s, when dressing like a beatnik became commonplace. That officially ended the beatnik generation. .....it just wasn't cool anymore.

Food is different. Once you taste real bread it is hard to eat Wonder Bread.

7 posted on 06/04/2006 11:14:31 AM PDT by A. Pole (Gore:We are the most powerful force of nature.We are changing the relationship between Earth and Sun)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Many parts are edible.
8 posted on 06/04/2006 11:15:07 AM PDT by steveo (Fathers Against Rude Television: You may already be a member)
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To: A. Pole

True, but you can eat whole wheat bread without it having to be "organic."


9 posted on 06/04/2006 11:16:05 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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Organic food will soon be available to the tens of millions of Americans who now cannot afford it — indeed, who have little or no idea what the term even means.

Talk about condescending. But do I expect any less from the NYT?

10 posted on 06/04/2006 11:17:08 AM PDT by NYCynic
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Organic foods are just as tasty as the regular stuff.

So I buy whatever is cheapest.


11 posted on 06/04/2006 11:17:29 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

As one who is using diet as "complementary medicine" to fight cancer, eating organic food has nothing to do with being "elite".


12 posted on 06/04/2006 11:18:32 AM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: A. Pole
I doubt that people who buy REAL organic food will go to buy it at Wal-Mart

That was my first thought also. Be like buying sushi at a Mexican grocery store.
13 posted on 06/04/2006 11:19:11 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Have you ever tried organic milk?

I guess I grew up with organic milk. My daddy was a dairy farmer.

I have always hated the taste of skim milk and then I tried organic skim and it tastes so much better and shelf life is longer.....go figure....


15 posted on 06/04/2006 11:19:33 AM PDT by Kimmers (If you want peace you must be prepared for war......)
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To: A. Pole

"I doubt that people who buy REAL organic food will go to buy it at Wal-Mart or will trust the "certification" from U.S.D.A."

Ironic, but true.


16 posted on 06/04/2006 11:20:37 AM PDT by toddlintown
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To: mtbopfuyn

I eat free-range poultry....I kill it in the wild (turkeys, pheasants, grouse, doves, etc)


17 posted on 06/04/2006 11:23:14 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Yawn... Let me know when the Frankenfood nuts are finally subdued so I can buy irradiated food.


18 posted on 06/04/2006 11:23:41 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

Well, real men don't drive them...


19 posted on 06/04/2006 11:26:15 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: A. Pole
Once you taste real bread it is hard to eat Wonder Bread.

That's a big 10-4. Then there are those that still eat that crap....and tear off the crusts! Like eating dried paste.

20 posted on 06/04/2006 11:27:31 AM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Mr. Mojo
True, but you can eat whole wheat bread without it having to be "organic."

Whole wheat is not enough. It can still have additives and the original grain might be of inferior quality.

The real bread contains flour, leaven or yeast, water and salt. No more, not less.

If you try to make your own bread you will SEE that organic flour is much better. The dough grows as it should for example.

Government agencies are not to be trusted with the certification as they will side with big business. They will play games to redefine "organic" or "natural" labels.

21 posted on 06/04/2006 11:28:30 AM PDT by A. Pole (Gore:We are the most powerful force of nature.We are changing the relationship between Earth and Sun)
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To: Kimmers
It does taste a little better.

The reason it lasts longer is that it is ultra-pasturized and in a container that keeps longer.

What I really want is for milk companies to start making "premium milk" that is, milk that has not been cooked to death with the quick pasteurization process.

Yes, it would be more expensive but the taste and mouth feel of slow pasteurized milk can not be beat.

We have premium everything else why not premium milk?

22 posted on 06/04/2006 11:28:43 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Every lady in this land hath 20 nails on each hand five and twenty on hand and feet)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Grouse is good...


23 posted on 06/04/2006 11:29:09 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Diego1618
Then there are those that still eat that crap....

Yes, the same ones who increase health care costs.

24 posted on 06/04/2006 11:29:24 AM PDT by A. Pole (Gore:We are the most powerful force of nature.We are changing the relationship between Earth and Sun)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Organic Oreos????


25 posted on 06/04/2006 11:30:21 AM PDT by digger48
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To: coconutt2000
Organic foods are just as tasty as the regular stuff.

You do not have taste anymore (it got ruined by Twinkies). You will eat any crap.

26 posted on 06/04/2006 11:31:09 AM PDT by A. Pole (Gore:We are the most powerful force of nature.We are changing the relationship between Earth and Sun)
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To: Magic Fingers

I was actually thinking recently, that I wonder how many people are going to start really looking for more organic food (I'm thinking in terms of meat without hormones, etc). And then I read this article. If Walmart is going to carry it, there must be a fairly large interest.
I don't see this as a bad thing. I could care less what the elites want, but I'm really becoming alarmed at some of what we consume, not to mention what we feed our kids.
susie


27 posted on 06/04/2006 11:31:41 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: A. Pole
Then there are those that still eat that crap.... Yes, the same ones who increase health care costs.

Yeah....it just kind of slides through, picking nothing up on its way.....or for that matter, leaving anything nutritional either.

28 posted on 06/04/2006 11:33:16 AM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618

I have to admit, that having grown up on wonderbread, I really like plain white bread toast. However, I don't eat it anymore. And, home made bread is really pretty easy to make, and makes you feel pretty smug and self sufficient.
suise


29 posted on 06/04/2006 11:33:31 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea
If Walmart is going to carry it, there must be a fairly large interest. I don't see this as a bad thing.

It would no be if Walmart intentions (and resolve) were honest. Big if.

30 posted on 06/04/2006 11:33:40 AM PDT by A. Pole (Gore:We are the most powerful force of nature.We are changing the relationship between Earth and Sun)
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To: NYCynic
Organic food will soon be available to the tens of millions of Americans who now cannot afford it — indeed, who have little or no idea what the term even means.

Talk about condescending. But do I expect any less from the NYT?


"Honestly, we didn’t know you guys were still around." "Well next time do a little research."


31 posted on 06/04/2006 11:34:13 AM PDT by Caramelgal (I don't have a tag line.... I am a tag line. So tag, you are it.)
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To: Incorrigible

A trip through an organic foods market is better than going to a movie. Up the Rocky Mountain front range, there are Whole Foods Markets and Wild Oats Markets. We stopped in one a while back to pick up some bulk food that my wife wanted, as it was convenient, and surprisingly their bulk items cost less than packaged items where we live. The people in that store, in their ponytails and birkenstock sandals, were reeking of not having bathed in a while. They carried on conversations that made no sense whatsoever, and sat in the deli eating some unidentifiable mess that looked like it had been left by an ill pet.

Worse yet, those people are allowed to vote.


32 posted on 06/04/2006 11:34:59 AM PDT by Concho
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

"Some fresh organic stuff such as strawberries and tomatoes tastes better ."

Not only tastes better, but is better for you too. I remember reading that strawberries, in particular, absorb a high percentage of pesticides so it is advised to buy them organic.


33 posted on 06/04/2006 11:35:10 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: Kimmers

My daddy wasn't a dairy farmer but when I was growing up we drank our own milk from Suzie our cow. Now I drink Promise Land Milk all natural no hormones! Yum! I have been a huge mild drinker all my life and now I am 66 years old and have the bones of a 30 year old as per my doctor.


34 posted on 06/04/2006 11:35:17 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: A. Pole

I understand and if you have an outlet where you get fresh, vine-ripened organic produce you can get that taste and you can get the same taste at roadside stands and pick it yourself farms, because they are ripened on the plant rather than picked green and shipped across the country. I think a lot of people confuse the matter. The real difference is the process not the chemicals or lack thereof.
Most fertilizers are natural substances and are actually safer than manure because you won't get ecoli.


35 posted on 06/04/2006 11:35:22 AM PDT by tiki
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To: A. Pole

I don't get your drift. Can you spell out what their intentions are? (bear in mind, I don't think making money is evil).
susie


36 posted on 06/04/2006 11:35:24 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; dalereed; calcowgirl; ElkGroveDan; Paloma_55
IT CAN'T BE!!!

It's a whole friggen politickle movement, complete with various ensundry "causes," don'tcha understand anything???

How could you post such a title??? (smirk)

37 posted on 06/04/2006 11:37:02 AM PDT by SierraWasp ((2006)Arnold? Or NO Arnold? (2008)Gore? Or NO Gore? NO DEAL!!! (on either one))
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Where do you get the seeds to grow Cocoa Puffs?


38 posted on 06/04/2006 11:41:37 AM PDT by Normal4me
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To: ErnBatavia; lewislynn

Pingin Lewislynn... Pingin Lewislynn... Pingin Lewislynn... Volvoid Sweedish Socialistic SuperSafe GovernMental Nanny Ping to ya!!! (smirk)


39 posted on 06/04/2006 11:41:46 AM PDT by SierraWasp ((2006)Arnold? Or NO Arnold? (2008)Gore? Or NO Gore? NO DEAL!!! (on either one))
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To: brytlea
I don't get your drift. Can you spell out what their intentions are? (bear in mind, I don't think making money is evil).

I am afraid that they will play games - they will sell not natural or organic food (to lower cost and increase profit) by changing the definitions and regulations. Their customers will not be able to tell difference.

Also they will ruin some real organic/natural producers by either forcing them of the market or by hooking them on ever lowering price schedule.

Still the true organic/natural stores will survive as their customer base will not give up.

40 posted on 06/04/2006 11:42:31 AM PDT by A. Pole (Gore:We are the most powerful force of nature.We are changing the relationship between Earth and Sun)
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To: brytlea

Organic food has become a huge market, and business is listening. The market driven economy does work sometimes. "Whole Foods" (organic grocery chain) has seen phenomenal growth and earnings. The ONLY way it will work, however, is if the consumer has confidence in the organic products being sold. Walmart has a big hill to climb in that dept., and no, I won't be buying organic from Walmart.

I agree with some posters, the minute the gov or big business gets involved, the integrity of the term "organic" could become compromised.


41 posted on 06/04/2006 11:43:03 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: khnyny
Also the organic are a different "breed" (is that the correct term?) or berry.

They are bred especially for a large size and length of shelf life, that is why they have no taste.

I prefer alpine berries when I can get them. Small and sweet and oh so good.

42 posted on 06/04/2006 11:43:05 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Every lady in this land hath 20 nails on each hand five and twenty on hand and feet)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I pick and choose. If the organic is not horribly overpriced and looks more appealing than the non-organic, highly processed, chemical laden stuff, I go with the organic. I figure it can’t hurt. After all I put the high-test gas and best oil in my car. Don’t I want to do the same for my engine?


43 posted on 06/04/2006 11:43:50 AM PDT by Caramelgal (I don't have a tag line.... I am a tag line. So tag, you are it.)
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To: Lil'freeper

Here come the food nazis.


44 posted on 06/04/2006 11:44:01 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper (..it takes some pretty serious yodeling to..filibuster from a five star ski resort in the Swiss Alps)
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To: Concho

They probably seem so miserable because eating such crap sucks up their will to live.

You know though, now that you mention it, I cant really remember seeing a clean, neat looking hippie.

Have you?


45 posted on 06/04/2006 11:44:21 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Master of Sinanju (Emeritus))
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To: dalereed

I am waiting for organic, free range beer and snickers bars.


46 posted on 06/04/2006 11:46:38 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Master of Sinanju (Emeritus))
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I recently saw a piece written by a student at MIT in which the kid said that she's convinced that shopping at a place like Whole Foods is *not* about eating healthy foods but,rather,about the conspicuous display of affluence.

With all the Range Rovers and Porche SUVs I see in the parking lot of the Whole Foods market near me,I think she's on to something!

47 posted on 06/04/2006 11:47:06 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: khnyny
I agree with some posters, the minute the gov or big business gets involved, the integrity of the term "organic" could become compromised.

Fortunately the non-government certifications and and informal network will be in place. Those who eat natural/organic food now will not be fooled.

48 posted on 06/04/2006 11:48:03 AM PDT by A. Pole (Gore:We are the most powerful force of nature.We are changing the relationship between Earth and Sun)
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To: Armedanddangerous

"free range beer"

Hold your glass under the steer and get yourself a warm glass full.


49 posted on 06/04/2006 11:48:46 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

We enter a day when organic foods become mainstream, and those who eat what they eat to be righteous will find a way to differentiate what they eat from what the masses eat.

I shop sometimes at organic type food stores. I have some products I really like, and they sell some stuff in bulk.

I know what A. Pole means about good bread. I've baked my own from time to time, (but I do often use more elaborate recipes than the one recommended, occasionally including things like milk or eggs or chopped nuts or other good stuff).

But there are people who are unhappy that these things might be going mainstream. Why?

Interesting the psychology of that particular tidbit.


50 posted on 06/04/2006 11:49:10 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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