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WMDs still in Iraq?
THe American Thinker ^ | 6-04-06 | Doug Hanson

Posted on 06/05/2006 2:38:43 PM PDT by Renfield

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Somebody out there, please print this out, tie it to a rock, and throw it through Karl Rove's window.....
1 posted on 06/05/2006 2:38:45 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: Renfield; eyespysomething
How about this my fellow freeper:

2002 Document: Chemical Material Hidden Underground (Translation)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1642403/posts

2 posted on 06/05/2006 2:43:37 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Renfield

Is EVERYTHING about politics in D.C.? Jeez. Maybe nobody wants to worry about underwater WMDs since they would apparently be "safe" where they are. I still think much of the stockpiles went to Syria.

When will the Bushies realize they need a P.R. win? Badly.


3 posted on 06/05/2006 2:45:04 PM PDT by Burr5
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To: jveritas

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1642403/posts


4 posted on 06/05/2006 2:49:17 PM PDT by malia (FLIGHT 93 DID MORE TO FIGHT TERRORISM THAN THE WHOLE OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY!!)
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To: jveritas; Renfield

It would seem appropriate to me to send your recent translation of the possible WMD that was buried in concrete and a copy of this piece to everyone that any reader here thinks might get this word out. Your comment?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1642403/posts

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5 posted on 06/05/2006 2:55:55 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: Renfield

I tried to post this earlier, but FR doesn't allow posts directly from the Northeast Intelligence Network. I don't know why.

Let's see, if WMDs are sitting about in Iraq and unguarded, and Terrorists are about, isn't that exactly the thing we were worried about when we went in? WMD falling into the wrong hands?

I don't get it, but then, there is a lot I don't get these days. I guess this article gets filed in that catch-all category:

"Important if true."


6 posted on 06/05/2006 2:59:11 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Free Iran! WARNING! Forbidden Cartoon: *-O)) :-{>. . . .)
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To: The Drowning Witch

WMD PING!


7 posted on 06/05/2006 3:02:42 PM PDT by Jackknife ( "It's not a real party 'til somebody breaks something.")
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To: Renfield
I wouldn't doubt it.

Considering Negroponte SAT on those Saddam docs for 3 years before letting some see the light of day. Even now that they are, they are still being ignored.

There just doesn't seem to be any interest in even going there. To much worry about 're-opening the wound' and risking new "Bush Lied" news cycle recapping all of it up until today.

We never did try to find out what all the convoys rushing into Syria were carrying. We have photos, and witness accounts, but never followed up.

What about the Russian limos that tried to flee to Syria when the invasion started... the ones that were important enough for us to take out before they crossed the border.

The whole Libya disclosure seems odd too IMO. I suspect a connection with Iraq's WMD programs.

Lots o' shenanigans going on...
8 posted on 06/05/2006 3:04:56 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: Renfield

Remember the retired, high ranking official from the Iraqi army who came forward about 6 months ago, claiming WMD was moved out of Iraq before the invasion? He was on Fox News Channel for about two days and then was never heard from again.

The MSM totally ignored this guy and his claims. Will Katie Couric interview him now on the CBS Evening News? How about that fat a--, Tim Russert?


9 posted on 06/05/2006 3:07:00 PM PDT by GianniV
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To: FreedomNeocon
"We never did try to find out what all the convoys rushing into Syria were carrying. We have photos, and witness accounts, but never followed up."

Mr.Osborne has written elsewhere that Syria has been informed that the USA is aware of the location of the Iraqi WMD in Syria, and has been warned that the sites are being monitored (satellites?).
10 posted on 06/05/2006 3:11:11 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Free Iran! WARNING! Forbidden Cartoon: *-O)) :-{>. . . .)
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To: Renfield

Well, when I was at Tallil, we had several people come down with illnesses when they checked out a chemical site right at the airbase!

It would NOT have been very difficult to determine if that location had a WMD site. Our guys spent only a few hours in the complex, and they were messed up for hours.

We were at Tallil from 5/03 through 11/03.


11 posted on 06/05/2006 3:14:31 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascism, now ACT LIKE IT, PRESIDENT BUSH!)
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To: Renfield

Ping.


12 posted on 06/05/2006 3:20:38 PM PDT by Patriot Hooligan ("God have mercy on my enemies because I won't." General George S. Patton)
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To: Renfield

BTTT


13 posted on 06/05/2006 3:26:22 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Renfield

Sean sort of stirred things up with this one!


14 posted on 06/05/2006 3:28:48 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Sean Osborne Lomax

FYI


15 posted on 06/05/2006 3:29:25 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Renfield

I have come to the conclusion that our side does not want to find real WMD in Iraq. Our reactions to the discoveries that have already occurred have been to hush them up- just not talk about them. That would gibe with our efforts to trash the morale of the troops by these public investigations of "atrocities." Such things, if suspected are properly handled by pulling the troops suspected to rear areas for the duration and any judicial measures to be taken after the end of hostilities.


16 posted on 06/05/2006 3:29:47 PM PDT by arthurus (It was better to fight them OVER THERE than here.)
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To: Burr5
When will the Bushies realize they need a P.R. win?

The Bushies seem to be actively suppressing opportunities for good P.R.

17 posted on 06/05/2006 3:31:17 PM PDT by arthurus (It was better to fight them OVER THERE than here.)
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To: arthurus

You know...his dad basically did this. Quit defending himself and basically set himself up to lose an election that shouldn't have been losable when we got landed with Clinton.


18 posted on 06/05/2006 3:58:39 PM PDT by ark_girl
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To: jazusamo

Please do my FRiend and thank you very much in helping getting the truth out.


19 posted on 06/05/2006 4:32:33 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: SFC Chromey

Very interesting.


20 posted on 06/05/2006 4:33:54 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: malia

Thank you :)


21 posted on 06/05/2006 4:34:26 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

I don't know whether to laugh or cry - all that you are passing on to us and doing for everyone --

you thank me!

Well, you are very welcome and thank you!

Mahalo nui loa


22 posted on 06/05/2006 5:04:47 PM PDT by malia (FLIGHT 93 DID MORE TO FIGHT TERRORISM THAN THE WHOLE OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY!!)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; 2111USMC; 2Jedismom; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; A Ruckus of Dogs; AdA$tra; ...
BUMP for a very important post, which may need FReeper help.

WMDs still in Iraq?
THe American Thinker ^ | 6-04-06 | Doug Hanson


23 posted on 06/05/2006 5:19:08 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Renfield; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; Ryle; ..

Ping!


24 posted on 06/05/2006 5:25:08 PM PDT by fanfan (I wouldn't be so angry with them if they didn't want to kill me!)
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To: fanfan

As John Howard once said, there were no road signs with WMD written on them. It is my understanding that Iraq had, amongst other things, anthrax. Note the recent London raids where the authorities were concerned that terrorist suspects were planning to use bombs to disperse cyanide. Although it turned out they did not have cyanide, the consequences of a bomb dispersing cyanide are too horrific to contemplate.


25 posted on 06/05/2006 5:35:58 PM PDT by Fair Go
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To: Diogenesis

Thanks for the ping Diogenesis.
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26 posted on 06/05/2006 5:38:25 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Fair Go; GMMAC; backhoe; All
I hope they don't have one set of people leading the cops on a wild goose chase, and another set doing the actual jihading.

I don't like tomorrows date.
Not because of the date, but because of what 'they' might make of it.
27 posted on 06/05/2006 5:42:01 PM PDT by fanfan (I wouldn't be so angry with them if they didn't want to kill me!)
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To: fanfan

Good point!


28 posted on 06/05/2006 6:09:38 PM PDT by Fair Go
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To: Diogenesis

I read an interview a few months ago in Frontpage Mag (I think) with this gentleman. He said that the southern part of Iraq was never searched--that the Iraqi Survey Group believed that the WMD would only be found in the Northern part of Iraq as that is how it was previously. He said that they only did flyover searches, and that this stuff has been buried underground and chained down in the river.

He also said the most alarming thing, and that was that by the time the Administration sees this kind of intel it is so politically scrubbed that it is barely recognizable. I will see if I can find the link and post it.


29 posted on 06/05/2006 6:09:46 PM PDT by Shelayne (Here's a novel idea--let's wait for the facts to come out before we rush to judgment!)
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To: Renfield
WTF!

Gaubatz: My sources confirm much of the information that is stated by the individual who claims to be "General Al-Tikriti", but they are suspicious of anyone they can't see or can't hear in their natural voice. Arabic is such a distinctive language that native Arabic speakers can tell a lot about the person by the words, tone, and mannerisms displayed during the conversation. There is little doubt Saddam had WMDs and that the Russians were involved in hiding them and possibly also removing them.

I feel Mr. Loftus, Mr. Mauro, myself, and many others realize WMDs were/are in Iraq, but to convince others is difficult. This silhouette will not do it (again I am not a disbeliever). During the last two months I have had conversations with Congressman Curt Weldon, Congressman Pete Hoekstra, their staff, and even arranged to have three of the original Iraqi sources brought to the Congressmen's office for debriefings (ref:) This still hasn't resulted in suspected WMD sites from being searched in Iraq.

Based on my extensive conversations with the Congressmen and their staff, they are afraid that if they searched the suspected sites in Iraq that I identified, and the WMD has been removed by terrorists, it would destroy the upcoming elections for the Republican Party. If it was done three years ago (as I tried to get done), we would all know. Now politics is involved. We have a tough fight ahead.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=22645

30 posted on 06/05/2006 6:11:29 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Shelayne

See post #30.


31 posted on 06/05/2006 6:12:31 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat
Yes. It's infuriating, isn't it.

Also this quote from a previous thread (italics mine):

I have provided detailed information to Congressman Pete Hoekstra and Congressman Curt Weldon. The 15 plus pages of detailed information I provided to them leaves no doubt accurate and verifiable intelligence was obtained about WMD in southern Iraq. I not only provided them names, addresses, and phone numbers of Iraqis who can confirm the WMDs, but also the Russian and Iranian involvement. The latest information was provided to Congressman Weldon during the period 16 Mar 2006, through 4 Apr 2006. I spent several days assisting them in converting military grid coordinates into longitude and latitude, which would put them within one meter of the sites.

FP: Do you feel President Bush and Congress were provided accurate intelligence before, during, and after the war?

Gaubatz: The most accurate intelligence is what is initially obtained by ground intelligence officers. The intelligence myself and other Agents obtained on the ground never reached our President or Congress. The intelligence they eventually received was so diluted and politically scrubbed, that it was often far from the original intelligence we received.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1611149/posts

32 posted on 06/05/2006 6:25:53 PM PDT by Shelayne (Here's a novel idea--let's wait for the facts to come out before we rush to judgment!)
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To: TexKat
Based on my extensive conversations with the Congressmen and their staff, they are afraid that if they searched the suspected sites in Iraq that I identified, and the WMD has been removed by terrorists, it would destroy the upcoming elections for the Republican Party. If it was done three years ago (as I tried to get done), we would all know. Now politics is involved. We have a tough fight ahead.

Well, I don't think this would paint a positive picture of the Dems either since they have been saying that there NEVER was WMD--which one has to wonder how they get away with saying something so obviously untrue, but I digress.

Anyway, go scout the sites regardless. This country has to get its head out of the sand. If we don't face this enemy head-on, we are doomed. Look at what is going on in Canada and Britain. Our media is putting their fingers in their ears doing the la-la-la song, and they should be front and center on this. Politics, schmolitics. Find the doggone WMD! Sheeeesh.

33 posted on 06/05/2006 6:42:23 PM PDT by Shelayne (Here's a novel idea--let's wait for the facts to come out before we rush to judgment!)
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To: Shelayne
Gaubatz: The most accurate intelligence is what is initially obtained by ground intelligence officers. The intelligence myself and other Agents obtained on the ground never reached our President or Congress. The intelligence they eventually received was so diluted and politically scrubbed, that it was often far from the original intelligence we received.

I'm not buying this. Someone, somewhere is not telling the truth, exaggerating, or hiding something.

34 posted on 06/05/2006 6:46:08 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Diogenesis

Bumpity bump.


35 posted on 06/05/2006 7:06:19 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul

And bump to you, neighbor.


36 posted on 06/05/2006 9:36:57 PM PDT by T'wit ("There is nothing so strong or safe in an emergency of life as the simple truth." -- Charles Dickens)
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To: jveritas
I still have the grid coordinates in my GPS. The location is just on the other side of the cameraman taking this picture. In fact two of the guys in the pictures had symptoms of chemical exposure. We just never knew what chemicals.

http://www.edelbrock.com/media/news/2003/company/troops.html


37 posted on 06/05/2006 10:16:00 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascism, now ACT LIKE IT, PRESIDENT BUSH!)
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To: Diogenesis; Renfield; jveritas; Grampa Dave; devolve; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Travis McGee; ..
The author asks why the Iraq Survey Group will not investigate four Iraqi WMD sites.

I asked Domenici's staffer why Weldon does not get a hearing. I was taken aback when the staffer flippantly suggested Weldon was "running for something or out for an award"--

Ye gods and little fishes, this is national security, not Beltway Follies.

I am asking Bill Gertz, but first found him exposing this screaming scandal in our own dinosaur DOD:

Pentagon ousts official who tied Russia, Iraq arms

You read this cannibalistic crap wherein our own bureaucratic martinets eat the messenger and you wonder how have we survived to date and how will we survive past the next North American Islamofascist WMD Workshop and Prayer Meeting.

Is this a War on Terrorism, George, or is this all hat and no discernible cerebrum?

38 posted on 06/06/2006 12:22:39 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Renfield

39 posted on 06/06/2006 12:32:32 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Renfield; jveritas
WMDs still in Iraq?

Yep. And I've been saying that on here for a couple of years now.

I can't say much more than that. At least not until I'm gone from Iraq for good.

40 posted on 06/06/2006 12:36:22 AM PDT by Allegra (Thread Hijacker Extraordinaire)
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MI Ping


41 posted on 06/06/2006 12:43:36 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk. Those who talk don't know.)
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To: ark_girl; briansb; MAK1179
"You know...his dad basically did this. Quit defending himself and basically set himself up to lose an election that shouldn't have been losable when we got landed with Clinton"

You noticed that huh? It looked intentional at the time and looks even treacherous in hindsight.

Is Dubya pulling the same stunt?

At the risk of earning the tin foil hat label.... these guys do all belong to the same club over at CFR and TLC do they not?

It's just disgusting when you open your eyes and look. Makes me want to go back to the beer and football as I can't stomach what goes on in DC these days..

Republican? My @ss

42 posted on 06/06/2006 6:00:08 AM PDT by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: SFC Chromey

Thank you very much for your service. God bless you and God bless our troops.


43 posted on 06/06/2006 6:09:54 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: PhilDragoo

Well said Phil. I really doubt that our politicians and those others in power see anything but the money. God help us.


44 posted on 06/06/2006 9:15:45 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: jveritas

Thank you for your translations of all the incriminating Hussein documents that truly show we were and ARE in the right!


45 posted on 06/06/2006 10:01:20 AM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascism, now ACT LIKE IT, PRESIDENT BUSH!)
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To: SFC Chromey
all the incriminating Hussein documents that truly show we were and ARE in the right!

Amen.

46 posted on 06/06/2006 10:20:58 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Renfield

You really want this to come out about a month before the elections to have maximum impact.


47 posted on 06/06/2006 10:33:32 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Diogenesis

Thanks for the ping. WMDs will be found. Bump...


48 posted on 06/06/2006 10:46:56 AM PDT by eureka! (Heaven forbid the Rats get control of Congress and/or the Presidency any time soon....)
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To: jveritas

It would be a small matter to cross-check your translated document with Gaubatz' recollections.


49 posted on 06/06/2006 12:28:48 PM PDT by sono ("Why can't we deport them? Mexico did." J Leno)
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To: sono

I would like to contact him if someone knows his contact number or e-mail I would like to have it. I will do my own search as well on this issue.


50 posted on 06/06/2006 12:30:30 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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