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Lethal form of heroin takes steep toll here (Pittsburgh)
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | June 6, 2006 | Jonathan D. Silver

Posted on 06/06/2006 10:06:26 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

Three deaths, 35 overdoses are blamed on the lethal form of drug plaguing the city. And the mixture has caused at least 100 deaths from Philadelphia to Chicago

City police detectives were working overtime to scoop up drug dealers and lean on users for information as a lethal batch of heroin snaked its way through city neighborhoods and beyond, causing at least 35 overdoses and as many as three deaths.

The heroin, which has cropped up in at least eight Pittsburgh neighborhoods since Saturday, is likely laced with the potent painkiller fentanyl, about 80 times stronger than morphine.

As authorities tried to make a dent locally in the heroin trade, the federal government announced yesterday that it had worked with Mexico to close a lab across the border that might be the source of the fentanyl that has killed heroin users in Pennsylvania and seven other states.

John Walters, director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, said it was still not clear whether the fentanyl was mixed with heroin at the lab in Mexico or after it entered the United States

(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drugskilledbelushi; heroin; warondrugs; wod; wodlist
Update--Pittsburgh death toll now up to four.
1 posted on 06/06/2006 10:06:29 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Fortunately, my heroin is fine.


2 posted on 06/06/2006 10:08:40 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Just bringing in the lethal drugs Americans refuse to do...


4 posted on 06/06/2006 10:09:13 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
Don't know--but I heard elsewhere that the drug came with a slogan that said "You'll Either Get High Or Die."

Guess it all adds to the "thrill" factor.
5 posted on 06/06/2006 10:10:33 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (DemonRATs- the CULTURE OF TREASON!)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

Stretches the supply further = more $$$


6 posted on 06/06/2006 10:11:15 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I heard it was written "Get high or die trying"


7 posted on 06/06/2006 10:11:51 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Self correcting problem bump


8 posted on 06/06/2006 10:11:57 AM PDT by roaddog727 (eludium PU36 explosive space modulator)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
Why add something to a drug that kills off customers? What is the motive behind adding to Heroin?

Let's say you stole (or otherwise secretly obtained) a bunch of fentanyl. Who else are you going to sell it to, if not heroin junkies?

The problem here is that they misunderestimated the potency of the fentanyl.

SD

11 posted on 06/06/2006 10:13:01 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Think of it as evolution in action.


12 posted on 06/06/2006 10:14:25 AM PDT by RebelBanker (If you can't do something smart, do something right.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

Oh, I had not heard it as being "laced". Local news said cut...I did hear yesterday that whatever is being added makes the heroin up to 80 times more potent.


13 posted on 06/06/2006 10:14:50 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I don't know about the heroin, but I like the way this reporter writes. "Leaning on users," "heroin snaking its way through," "scooping up dealers." Good strong verbs and a tinge of Walter Winchell. I like it.


14 posted on 06/06/2006 10:16:36 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

Fentanyl is "china white" .. it's a synthetic opiate which has almost the same effect. It's a cut made to stretch the amount of product/increase the potency.

Fentanyl made into a gaseous form was also the gas pumped into the theater in RUssia to knock eveyone out as rescue those hostages.

It is also used as a pain killer in hospitals, sometimes in child patients of surgerty who are given fentanyl "lollipops" to suck on because it's more gentle than pain pills. The dosage of Fentanyl is in the micrograms though, so "china white" being used as heroin or a cut for it is extremely dangerous in the wrong hands.


15 posted on 06/06/2006 10:21:49 AM PDT by Bones75
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

"I am unfamiliar with heroin, I know it is a liquid caues people shoot it with needles"

It is a crystaline powder, disolved in water befire injection.


16 posted on 06/06/2006 10:23:39 AM PDT by Bones75
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
Why add something to a drug that kills off customers?

A drug dealer trying to break into a new market, might sell contaminated drugs under a competitor's "brand name," causing the competitor to lose customers switching to new safer sources.

Recently, twenty three people died in a week in South East Michigan from fentanyl contaminated heroin.The count is over a hundred including deaths in Ohio and Delaware.

I'm not saying it was or is a feud between drug dealers, I don't know. It's just a possibility worth mentioning.

Regards,
17 posted on 06/06/2006 10:30:34 AM PDT by LiberationIT
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To: Bones75

Yeah, they gave me one of those lollipops before a painful procedure, I told them opiates made me sick, and they said, oh, this won't. LIARS! Not only did it do nothing for the painful procedure, I was sick as a dog for 2 days! Yucky stuff.
susie


18 posted on 06/06/2006 10:32:27 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I'm supposed to be sympathetic?


19 posted on 06/06/2006 10:37:08 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Don't addicts read the warning label on the baggy?


20 posted on 06/06/2006 10:41:37 AM PDT by SamAdams_Lite
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
And the mixture has caused at least 100 deaths from Philadelphia to Chicago

It's time to ban heroin! It should be made illegal, gathered up and taken off the streets where it is killing children!

Those that are providing heroin should be sued! If it is coming from neighboring states, they should change their laws.

We should initiate buy back programs.

It is past time to close the 'heroin show' loophole!

/sarcasm

21 posted on 06/06/2006 10:43:25 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Bones75
It is a crystaline powder, disolved in water befire injection.

Befire?

Interesting misspelling considering the content. Freudian slip? :)

22 posted on 06/06/2006 11:00:56 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: SamAdams_Lite

LOL!!


23 posted on 06/06/2006 11:01:28 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
A hard-core addict, when they're using the heroin,
sometimes they're only getting enough to prevent them from going into withdrawal,
If they feel there is something out there they can take that will also make them high, they'll seek it out.

24 posted on 06/06/2006 11:08:04 AM PDT by evets (ibtz)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Why worry about a lifestyle choice? IMO Leave them to their fate.
25 posted on 06/06/2006 11:15:45 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

There's a Xena joke in here somewhere...


26 posted on 06/06/2006 11:30:13 AM PDT by thoughtomator (A thread without a comment on immigration is not complete)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
Why add something to a drug that kills off customers?

Quality control is a problem with illegal drugs. Producers cut it badly or get the smart idea to lace it and users get hurt. We had this problem during prohibition with deadly alcohols laced with methyl and "ginger jake," resulting in paralysis, blindness and/or death.

On the flip side, users get used to cooking X amount of heroin based on the average cut in the area, then some ultra-pure heroin comes and and, ta-da, overdoses go up. Since it's illegal, there's no regulation on purity labelling.

27 posted on 06/06/2006 11:56:35 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Gee, sucks to be them...


29 posted on 06/06/2006 12:48:08 PM PDT by jonascord ("Republic. I like the sound of the word...")
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

That's more detailed than I know. I'm going by the news reports.


30 posted on 06/06/2006 2:26:51 PM PDT by LiberationIT
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To: GOP Poet

"Interesting misspelling considering the content. Freudian slip? :)"

It could be that, or just that fact that I am a horrible speller, especially when rushing throguh posts when I'm at work. LOL

Hey mods, how about that post-edit feature? >_<


31 posted on 06/06/2006 3:36:48 PM PDT by Bones75
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

"It was my understanding that at least 50% of first time heroin users rejected the drug and died on first use anyway."

Where on earth did you hear that?

That would be as if 50% of people who got a root canal and got some Vicodin from the pharmacy died on the first use. An opiate is an opiate.

You have got some seriously bad information my friend.. Lord have mercy, what has the "War on Some Drugs" done to people? How could a person be so misinformed?

I am not advocating the stuff, but many MANY more people die alcohol related deaths than all illegal drugs combined.


32 posted on 06/06/2006 3:40:30 PM PDT by Bones75
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To: Bones75

It's strong detergent for the gene pool.


33 posted on 06/06/2006 5:44:51 PM PDT by Ronin (Ut iusta esse, lex noblis severus necesse est.)
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To: atomicpossum; martin_fierro
Fortunately, my heroin is fine.

LOL.

I just heard on the radio here in the Burgh that this deadly heroin cocktail that's knocking off so many here and in Philly ..... was sold in a bag that read, "Get High or Die Trying".

You'd think these users would get a little clue from those words.

;-)

34 posted on 06/07/2006 4:33:42 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ; rightwingintelligentsia; LiberationIT
Quick question. Why add something to a drug that kills off customers? What is the motive behind adding to Heroin?

Maybe it's an evil conspiracy to knock off a number of Democrat voters in Pittsburgh and Philly.

35 posted on 06/07/2006 4:35:47 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

"the federal government announced yesterday that it had worked with Mexico to close a lab across the border that might be the source of the fentanyl"

I found this statement interesting. It seems that the feds can find and shutdown a lab if they want to. It's just more proof that the war on drugs is nothing more than a revenue generating exercise. It generates revenue for the pusher, law enforcement, lawyers, jails, you name it. The war on drugs will never be over as long as everyone is making money off of it.


36 posted on 06/07/2006 4:45:19 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

If you can't do God's work, do Darwin's.


37 posted on 06/07/2006 4:52:58 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: beyond the sea
Maybe it's an evil conspiracy to knock off a number of Democrat voters in Pittsburgh and Philly.

DEATH be not proud, though some have called thee
Mighty and dreadfull, for, thou art not so,
For, those, whom thou think'st, thou dost overthrow,
Die not, poore death, yet cast their vote Democratically.

The Democratic Party supports full civil rights for Necro-Americans!

38 posted on 06/07/2006 4:57:34 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Junkies dying of an overdose is bad because ...?

Three deaths, 35 overdoses are blamed on the lethal form of drug plaguing the city. And the mixture has caused at least 100 deaths from Philadelphia to Chicago

Oh wait I see, 35 overdoses that were treated at taxpayer expense. If you're willing to do drugs then that's fine, but don't expect anyone else to care for you if it screws you up. This reminds me of people who get in trouble on Everest and then expect to be rescued. You knowingly engage in risky behavior, then don't complain if it bites you in the a$$

39 posted on 06/07/2006 5:21:11 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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