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'Muppet planes' on drawing board (Enviro-friendly aircraft get look from Boeing)
Arizona Daily Star - Seattle Times ^ | Dominic Gates

Posted on 06/06/2006 7:13:58 PM PDT by SandRat

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To: the invisib1e hand
And yet, for all of your large words, you've still failed to say precisely what is wrong with Boeing looking at ways to produce more fuel-efficient, quieter, "greener" airplanes.

As far as your comment that "half the burden of clear communication belongs to the hearer," that presupposes that the speaker is making sense in the first place. Let's put that to the test.

You're attempting to transform your silly original comment (post #7) into a serious-sounding economic argument; however, if you look at the overwhelming positive response that met the introduction of Boeing's more fuel-efficient 787, it would seem that you haven't got any point at all -- there is, in fact, a long-term economic advantage to fuel efficiency.

Your attempt to invoke "accountability to moral ramifications" is meaningless, since you haven't bothered to tell us precisely what the adverse moral impacts of fuel efficiency, quietness, or overall aviation "greenness" really are. One is left to speculate that your criterion is no more complicated than that you simply and unthinkingly hate the idea of "green."

51 posted on 06/07/2006 12:30:54 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
And yet, for all of your large words, you've still failed to say precisely what is wrong with Boeing looking at ways to produce more fuel-efficient, quieter, "greener" airplanes.

I stopped reading here. I'm going to do be really generous and reply by pointing out that nohwere, ever, did I say anything about Boeing and its planes. I certainly implied the very opposite of what you have attributed to me --read: what you have imagined that I believe.

OK, one more favor: if you can identify what I did -- quite explicity -- take issue with, I will refrain from concluding that you answering imaginary posts.

52 posted on 06/07/2006 2:08:48 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: the invisib1e hand

There's nothing wrong with making planes that are more fuel efficient and/ or less noisy. There is a kernel of truth to environmentalism, we do make polution and making less is a good thing. The problem with modern environmentalists is they take it too far and get addicted to programs that don't work, but there are reasonable things reasonable corporations and people can do to make our stay on this planet less damaging and handover a nicer place to future generations.


53 posted on 06/07/2006 2:16:19 PM PDT by discostu (get on your feet and do the funky Alphonzo)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I'm going to do be really generous and reply by pointing out that nohwere, ever, did I say anything about Boeing and its planes. I certainly implied the very opposite of what you have attributed to me --read: what you have imagined that I believe.

Which is a rather abject confession that you're gabbling on about ... well, something ... that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread. Thanks for clarifying.

54 posted on 06/07/2006 2:27:03 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
You are now free to go yank someone else's chain.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1644699/posts?page=7#7

55 posted on 06/07/2006 3:12:24 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: the invisib1e hand

A link back to your original idiocy .... how quaint.


56 posted on 06/07/2006 4:36:17 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
I leave you with this thought:

If a soiled shirt is placed in the opening of a vessel containing grains of wheat, the reaction of the leaven in the shirt with fumes from the wheat will, after approximately twenty-one days, transform the wheat into mice.

Les oevres de Jean-Baptiste Van Helmont, French trans. Jean Le Conte (Lyon, 1671), Part I, Ch. XVI, "On the Necessity of Leavens in Transformations," pp. 103-109

57 posted on 06/07/2006 5:10:56 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: dalereed

Yeah, the "props" on the Fozzie were a hot ticket on one of their concept planes a few years ago - they were killed by the apparently unresolveable issue of excessive noise.

Cute names though. ;)


58 posted on 06/07/2006 5:14:48 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: Paleo Conservative

Fozzle's my bet. We're already nearly there, with all the bypass in modern engines. The first couple or three blade sets are nothing more than glorified propellers.


59 posted on 06/09/2006 2:00:16 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Jotmo

The loudest plane on earth is the Tu-95. In some ways, ahead of its time.


60 posted on 06/09/2006 2:02:17 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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