posted on 06/06/2006 7:14:02 PM PDT
Just reusing designs that have been around a long time.
posted on 06/06/2006 7:20:15 PM PDT
To: Paleo Conservative
posted on 06/06/2006 7:28:00 PM PDT
(5 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, guns and ammunition.)
To: SandRat; All
i'll be so glad when this "extraodinary popular delusion" -- the cult of environmentalism -- has passed and sanity has returned.
posted on 06/06/2006 7:28:10 PM PDT
by the invisib1e hand
("....and the sun is eclipsed by the moon!" -- (Pink Floyd). But not for long!)
To: SandRat; COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; ...
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Kermit Kruiser looks like the Sonic Cruiser redone..
posted on 06/06/2006 7:29:59 PM PDT
("Oh No! Zombies!" Actually, they aren't. They just haven't had their coffee yet.)
No "Ratso Rizzo Rider"?
How about the Lew Zeland Flying Fish?
posted on 06/06/2006 7:32:41 PM PDT
by Mr. Jazzy
(VPD of LCpl Smoothguy242, USMC, now back at K-Bay! Ooorah!!!)
Maybe they should have looked to the X-Men for inspiration instead of muppets.
To: SandRat; mikrofon; Charles Henrickson
Then there's the "Fozzie."
Kermit: "Bear left."
Fozzie: "Right, frog."
posted on 06/06/2006 7:34:49 PM PDT
(Nifty little exchange from The Muppet Movie)
* "Fozzie": Ultra-low fuel burn. The airplane is designed to cruise at a much reduced speed 500 mph rather than the typical 600-plus mph of current jets. That would add an hour to the typical transcontinental flight.
If they made the plane more comfortable then they might have a winner.
Slightly more space for the same ticket price as the faster planes and they would sell seats.
posted on 06/06/2006 7:40:29 PM PDT
by Harmless Teddy Bear
(The bottom 60% does 40% of the work, the top 40% does 60% of the work. Just who are the "workers"?)
Automobiles, trucks, construction equipment, stationary power generators and motorcycles are all going to be required to have pollution controls within the next 5 years. Why are aircraft exempt?
The fact of the matter is your typical jetliner emits more smog-producing pollutants in one minute of operation that 1,000 modern automobiles will emit in a year. And yet we are beating our brains out making LEVs and ULEVs and SULEVs, while jet aircraft fly overhead, without a care.
posted on 06/06/2006 7:42:45 PM PDT
The Problem with Fozzie, the UDF is what I will call the B-17 problem.
It sounds like a B-17 when it flies over.
That may have been acceptable in 1944, but in 2006, no way.
UDF's are deader than than dead. They looked so good on paper....
posted on 06/06/2006 7:49:30 PM PDT
(I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
posted on 06/06/2006 8:35:31 PM PDT
(What is it about "illegal" you don't understand?)
The "Open Rotor" design is very efficient and has been around for a long time. It's a very well known concept in the aviation industry. When I worked for McDonald Douglas in the late '80's they were trying to develop them for the MD-80 series aircraft. The called it UHB, for Ultra High Bypass.
Most commercial jet engines today are High Bypass variety where 80% or so of the thrust comes from the fan, and not the jet portion of the engine. The UHB was just the next logical progression. Get rid of the fan shroud which is restrictive and is installed only to control noise. But that was the big hang up, however. They are much louder than conventional turbofans, and could not meet the rather strict, in many cases, airport noise ordinances in most communities.
So we continue to pollute more so people who buy houses around airports and still hear the crickets chirp.
Ain't government wonderful?
posted on 06/06/2006 8:47:46 PM PDT
("Voon", said the mattress.)
Obviously a technological advance.
Soon, we'll be seeing things like composting toilets.
posted on 06/06/2006 9:23:38 PM PDT
the optimum design is the Honeydew with a pair of canard winglets in the front just below the cockpit and move the jet engines to a little lower to blend on the body.
The Fozzie is a total joke of a design.
but where is the Animal design?
posted on 06/06/2006 10:47:09 PM PDT
by Big Guy and Rusty 99
("Conspiracy theories are the products of feeble minds." - A. Horvet)
posted on 06/06/2006 10:52:35 PM PDT
(Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
So, where's the Animal? or the Miss Piggy? how bout the Great Gonzo, or the Dr. Floyd Pepper?
posted on 06/07/2006 3:12:22 AM PDT
(My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
Will they biodegrade at 40000 feet?
posted on 06/07/2006 7:09:28 AM PDT
by sheik yerbouty
( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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