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Americans Don't Like U.N., and its All Limbaugh's and Fox News' Fault!
NY Times/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 06/07/2006 9:06:16 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

by Mark Finkelstein

June 7, 2006

According to this article in the New York Times, Americans out in the heartland don't like the U.N., and its all the fault of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News.

Said Mark Malloch Brown a Briton who is deputy to Secretary General Kofi Annan, there is "too much unchecked U.N.-bashing and stereotyping." He added:

"Much of the public discourse [about the U.N.] that reaches the U.S. heartland has been largely abandoned to its loudest detractors such as Rush Limbaugh and Fox News," he said.

Malloch Brown also took a swipe at US Ambassador John Bolton. As per the Times article:

"Mr. Malloch Brown did not mention Mr. Bolton by name, but he criticized the working strategy that many diplomats have associated with Mr. Bolton since his arrival last August. "Exacerbating matters is the widely held perception, even among many U.S. allies, that the U.S. tends to hold on to maximalist positions when it could be finding middle ground," Mr. Malloch Brown said."

If Malloch Brown is correct, sounds as if Rush and FNC are doing something right!


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: foxnews; rushlimbaugh; un; uncorruption
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

OIL FOR FOOD, OIL FOR FOOD, OIL FOR FOOD AND DON'T FORGET JOHN BOLTON.


21 posted on 06/07/2006 9:17:47 AM PDT by BIGZ
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To: GrandEagle

Great point on 'unchecked.' Ve must haf rules!


22 posted on 06/07/2006 9:18:13 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

"Said Mark Malloch Brown a Briton who is deputy to Secretary General Kofi Annan, there is 'too much unchecked U.N.-bashing and stereotyping.'"

This statement is the perfect, concise, stand-alone statement that makes the point for Fox and Rush. This guy and the UN want to stifle free speech and everything else that opposes them and their agenda. Nice of him to put us and the rest of the world on notice, so that we know what they are really up to.


23 posted on 06/07/2006 9:18:14 AM PDT by fromscratchmom
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Neither Rush nor Fox told me that the UN has a Communist history, has a long record of ineffective action and corruption, and wants more money to waste. The UN wants to tax the US for its "dues," and as a step toward one world government. The record of success of the UN is lilliputian compared to its monumental failures.


24 posted on 06/07/2006 9:18:58 AM PDT by olezip
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
the U.S. tends to hold on to maximalist positions when it could be finding middle ground," Mr. Malloch Brown said."

Translation: It would be so much better if the US would just do it our way and surrender to communism.

25 posted on 06/07/2006 9:19:30 AM PDT by RJL
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The UN just sux.

Has nothing to do with either Rush or FOX.

So, UN aficionados, kindly dial the WAAAAAAAAAMbulance to voice your complaint. Perhaps someone will even listen!

NOT!
26 posted on 06/07/2006 9:19:30 AM PDT by roaddog727 (eludium PU36 explosive space modulator)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Said Mark Malloch Brown a Briton who is deputy to Secretary General Kofi Annan, there is "too much unchecked U.N.-bashing and stereotyping."

Sounds like a McCainiac.

27 posted on 06/07/2006 9:19:33 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Here's an AP article about this with some more information...


Member Faults How U.S. Presents U.N.

By NICK WADHAMS
Associated Press Writer

UNITED NATIONS (AP) -- The United Nations' No. 2 official accused the U.S. government of keeping Middle America in the dark about the world body's good works, a rare direct criticism that drew an angry response Wednesday from Ambassador John Bolton.

Bolton called Tuesday's speech by Deputy Secretary-General Mark Malloch Brown a "very, very grave mistake" that could undermine Secretary-General Kofi Annan's efforts to push through an ambitious agenda at the world body.

"I spoke to the secretary-general this morning, I said 'I've known you since 1989 and I'm telling you this is the worst mistake by a senior U.N. official that I have seen in that entire time,'" Bolton told reporters on Wednesday.

"To have the deputy secretary-general criticize the United States in such a manner can only do grave harm to the United Nations," Bolton said.

In the speech, Malloch Brown said the United States relies on the United Nations as a diplomatic tool but doesn't defend it against criticism at home, a policy of "stealth diplomacy" that he called unsustainable.

He lamented that the good works of the U.N. are largely lost because "much of the public discourse that reaches the U.S. heartland has been largely abandoned to its loudest detractors such as Rush Limbaugh and Fox News."

"The U.N.'s role is in effect a secret in Middle America even as it is highlighted in the Middle East and other parts of the world," Malloch Brown said.

The speech was delivered at a daylong conference sponsored by two think tanks, the Center for American Progress and The Century Foundation. Malloch Brown called it a "sincere and constructive critique of U.S. policy toward the U.N. by a friend and admirer."

It was a rare instance of a senior U.N. official directly and openly criticizing a member state. An unwritten U.N. rule says high-ranking officials don't name names or shame nations.

Yet Malloch Brown and even Annan have done so in the past. Last year, with the U.N. under intense criticism over the Iraq oil for food program, Annan said opponents of the U.N. had been "relentless," and the world body wasn't fighting back enough.

U.S. officials, including Bolton, said they were especially upset that Malloch Brown, a Briton, mentioned "Middle America."

Bolton said Malloch Brown's "condescending, patronizing tone about the American people" was the worst part about the speech.

"Fundamentally and very sadly, this was a criticism of the American people, not the American government, by an international civil servant," Bolton said. "It's just illegitimate."

The United Nations had no immediate comment about Bolton's remarks or whether Annan would respond.

Malloch Brown used the speech to defend U.N. peacekeeping missions in 18 places round the globe. He criticized the United States for voting against the creation of a new Human Rights Council. It was joined by just three nations, with 170 countries voting for the body.

He acknowledged that the U.N. was in desperate need of an overhaul - in the Security Council, over its budget, and even the headquarters building itself, which hasn't been renovated for decades.

But the U.S. tendency to criticize the United Nations and to take "maximalist positions," rather than seeking the middle ground, has made other nations suspicious of its intentions.

Bolton warned that Malloch Brown's comments could undermine the reforms that Annan wants and that the United States supports.

"To have the deputy secretary-general criticize the United States in such a manner can only do grave harm to the United Nations," Bolton said. "Even though the target of the speech was the United States, the victim, I fear, will be the United Nations."


Bolton called Tuesday's speech by Deputy Secretary-General Mark Malloch Brown a "very, very grave mistake"

He he he!!!

28 posted on 06/07/2006 9:20:31 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: BipolarBob

As soon as the U.N. directives take place and free speech is revoked, there will be no more U.N. bashing (or Rush Limbaugh or Foxnews). That will solve everything.



the second amendment is what the un is after, the first & others won't make a difference then....


29 posted on 06/07/2006 9:20:37 AM PDT by ronnied (we are the only animals that bare our teeth in greeting...)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
According to this article in the New York Times, Americans out in the heartland don't like the U.N., and its all the fault of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News.

No, it wouldn't have anything to do with the Oil for Food rip off or rapes in Africa.

Said Mark Malloch Brown a Briton who is deputy to Secretary General Kofi Annan, there is "too much unchecked U.N.-bashing and stereotyping."

Unchecked? Just how is the UN going to check anything? How about nuclear proliferation - guess that problem is just too difficult.

...the U.S. tends to hold on to maximalist positions when it could be finding middle ground," Mr. Malloch Brown said."

OK maybe a compromise, like only raping on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays would be acceptable.

30 posted on 06/07/2006 9:21:15 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"too much unchecked U.N.-bashing and stereotyping."

That is scary -- he seems to be suggesting it should be checked. These UN a'holes want NO accountability.

31 posted on 06/07/2006 9:21:16 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: roaddog727

I think the liberals are making a mistake to take the word of a deputy for Kofi as to the "Why?" part of Americans not liking the UN munch these days.


32 posted on 06/07/2006 9:21:53 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty ( 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Billthedrill
They never seem to recognize it, though, just as fish don't recognize water.

Well...they do seem to appreciate it, when they aren't in it.

33 posted on 06/07/2006 9:22:43 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The pen is mightier than the................pigs.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

It just so happens that I've been arguing with a group of liberals and have been compiling a list of UN failures. It's pretty bad when even Ammnesty international and Human Rights Watch are calling the UN a massive failure.

Here's what I have so far. If anybody has any to add just let me know. Left leaning sources that trash them are best of all.


UN fails to guarantee justice and human rights in East Timor

http://web.amnesty.org/web/wire.nsf/september2001/east_timor


Iran: U.N. Fails to Condemn Rights Abuses

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2002/04/22/iran3868.htm


"UN fails to protect the displaced in Angola"

http://www.afrol.com/News2002/ang007_un_hrw_idps.htm


UN 'fails' to save Afghan statues

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1201763.stm


UN fails to rally Sierra Leone force

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/933288.stm


U.N. Fails to Censure Sudan's Slavery

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/4/20/165110.shtml


World: Africa UN plan Rwanda failures inquiry

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/301503.stm


Oil-for-food probe: U.N. failures let Saddam pocket $10.2 billion

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/world/3344191.html


Martin delivers scathing critique of UN failures

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1126878834611_122288034/?hub=TopStories


Nobel peace laureate in attack on UN failures

http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=469142006


Anatomy of a Balkan Massacre

http://hir.harvard.edu/articles/854/


The U.N. Sex Scandal

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/081zxelz.asp


Sex-for-aid under UN spotlight

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1861763.stm


UN food agency deputy resigns over leader's 'culture of silence'

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1774642,00.html


Food Fight (funny and pathetic at the same time)

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,449436,00.html


UN admits Rwanda genocide failure

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/714025.stm


U.N.: Darfur Resolution a Historic Failure

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2004/09/18/darfur9355.htm


34 posted on 06/07/2006 9:23:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Fox had a video statement from Bolton on this morning, slamming this guy. Confirms for me that Bolton is exactly the right guy in the right place at the right time.

I love that guy. Go John Go!


35 posted on 06/07/2006 9:23:40 AM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1400 knives and counting!)
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To: sheik yerbouty

I guess someone didn't like the picture.


36 posted on 06/07/2006 9:23:54 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

O'Reilly should get a lot of mileage out of this one.


37 posted on 06/07/2006 9:25:51 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: michigander
He lamented that the good works of the U.N. are largely lost because "much of the public discourse that reaches the U.S. heartland has been largely abandoned to its loudest detractors such as Rush Limbaugh and Fox News."

What "good works" would that be?

38 posted on 06/07/2006 9:26:06 AM PDT by RJL
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If an organization is doing its job above board, it does not need to have a PR shill like Mallock out front for it acting as its lead defender ..

The irony is he is doing it on yours and my dime.


39 posted on 06/07/2006 9:26:35 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"He lamented that the good works of the U.N. are largely lost because "

There are none.

40 posted on 06/07/2006 9:26:35 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Not available)
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