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Iraq Investigator Tells AP About Haditha (gag)
WRAL via AP ^ | 6/7/06 | staff

Posted on 06/07/2006 12:37:44 PM PDT by pissant

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- A small group of U.S. Marines alleged to have killed up to two dozen Iraqi civilians conducted a house-to-house hunt that stretched over three hours, while other Marines in Haditha did not intervene, according to an Iraqi human rights investigator.

The Associated Press interview of the activist is the most detailed account yet of Iraqi accusations that Marines went on a rampage after a comrade was killed by a bomb. Two separate U.S. military investigations of the incident are under way.

Thaer al-Hadithi, a member and spokesman for the Hammurabi human rights association, a Sunni Muslim group, recounted with the help of a satellite map when and where Iraqi civilians cowered and sometimes died.

The case, which came to public attention two months ago because of a video released by the Hammurabi group, is threatening to further weaken popular support for the Iraq war in the United States and has tarnished the military's image in Iraq and around the world.

(Excerpt) Read more at wral.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: fakebutaccurate; haditha; marines; treason
This turd is what passes for a reliable source to the anti-american AP.
1 posted on 06/07/2006 12:37:47 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant; MNJohnnie; delacoert; jazusamo; Coop; freema
an Iraqi human rights investigator. Thaer al-Hadithi, a member and spokesman for the Hammurabi human rights association, a Sunni Muslim group

I might as well ask my neighbor's dog what happened.
We are expected to accept the conviction of our Marines by this testimony. When hell freezes.

2 posted on 06/07/2006 12:46:10 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: pissant

The Ham group is the very one which brought the massacre charges later dismissed against the troops in Shariqua (sp?). Also, the 'journalist' AP employs to bring their photos and stories on Iraq to them is the same one arrested and held for making and abetting data for al Jazzera and the insurtgency terrorists. He and they give Hammurabi a bad tint ... Hammurabi was the original law giver don'tchaknow!


3 posted on 06/07/2006 12:50:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: pissant
Thaer al-Hadithi, a member and spokesman for the Hammurabi human rights association, a Sunni Muslim group,

It was sure convenient for AP that this human rights group member just happened to be visiting Haditha on the day of the supposed atrocity. It's simply amazing. /sarc

4 posted on 06/07/2006 12:58:37 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: pissant

until the dead are exhumed and an autopsy is performed;
I wouldn't care if Mother Teresa resurrected and accused my fellow Marines of murder;
these Marines are innocent until proven guilty.

And for the sake of the families of these Marines and especially the families of Marines who have paid the ultimate price;
when these Marines are exonerated, I hope the MSM will be as diligent in publicizing their innocence.
But we won't be holding our collective breath.

Semper Fi,
Kelly


5 posted on 06/07/2006 1:06:07 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Just A Nobody

Exactly. When hellfreezes over.


6 posted on 06/07/2006 1:11:34 PM PDT by pissant
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To: MHGinTN

That is there entire reason for existence. To document what the evil americans are doing to poor innocent terrorists.


7 posted on 06/07/2006 1:12:42 PM PDT by pissant
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To: jazusamo

Shazzam! What a coinkidink.


8 posted on 06/07/2006 1:13:22 PM PDT by pissant
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To: kellynla

We will have to literally browbeat the MSM into submission.


9 posted on 06/07/2006 1:14:02 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Pure and utter BS. Hey AP, no matter HOW you drag in others to lie for you, the fact remains ALL you information is being provided by a group with links to the Terrorists. Putting a new name on the story doesn't change the fact that it is the SAME "Iraqi Civil Right Group" you are using that created the obviously fraudlent "Haditha Uncovered" video. Since they lied about that, what else are they lying about?


10 posted on 06/07/2006 1:15:11 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (I would rather be an Iraqi in a Hidatha guarded by Marines, then a subject of Al-Qeda anywhere.)
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To: MNJohnnie

They are lying about the entire episode.


11 posted on 06/07/2006 1:17:02 PM PDT by pissant
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To: kellynla
until the dead are exhumed and an autopsy is performed; I wouldn't care if Mother Teresa resurrected and accused my fellow Marines of murder; these Marines are innocent until proven guilty. And for the sake of the families of these Marines and especially the families of Marines who have paid the ultimate price; when these Marines are exonerated, I hope the MSM will be as diligent in publicizing their innocence. But we won't be holding our collective breath.

My feelings exactly.......What ehas happened to this country when the MSM would rather believe our enemy than our own military during a time of war!.......like you, unless these Marines come out and admit to this masacre I will never believe it....

12 posted on 06/07/2006 1:21:23 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: pissant
So, let us adopt a Leftist slogan.

NO JUSTICE!
NO PEACE!

13 posted on 06/07/2006 1:22:29 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (I would rather be an Iraqi in a Hidatha guarded by Marines, then a subject of Al-Qeda anywhere.)
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To: pissant
Just had a thought. What did this "Iraqi Human Rights Investigator" do during the Saddam years? Rape room attendant? Torturer? Executioner? Funny how there is no background at all on any of these guys prior to making this accusation.
14 posted on 06/07/2006 1:23:56 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (I would rather be an Iraqi in a Hidatha guarded by Marines, then a subject of Al-Qeda anywhere.)
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To: Sam Hill
"Thaer al-Hadithi, a member and spokesman for the Hammurabi human rights association, a Sunni Muslim group, recounted with the help of a satellite map when and where Iraqi civilians cowered and sometimes died. "

UN-reliable sources ping!

15 posted on 06/07/2006 1:24:55 PM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: MNJohnnie

I prefer: Confucius say, Play with terrorists, Marines kill you.


16 posted on 06/07/2006 1:25:51 PM PDT by pissant
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To: MNJohnnie

They have not shown even a remote interest in the backgrounds of these liars.


17 posted on 06/07/2006 1:26:27 PM PDT by pissant
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To: kellynla

A recently exonerated Marine crucified in the lickspittlist media prior to his trial tells us they won't bother to publicize the dismissals because that doesn't fit their damned anti-Bush admin, anti-American military agenda!


18 posted on 06/07/2006 1:28:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN; MNJohnnie; mystery-ak; kellynla; jazusamo; Just A Nobody; freema
Some of you might find this article interesting, too: The Haditha Stratagem (we've been set-up...of course).
19 posted on 06/07/2006 1:34:57 PM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: pissant
... according to an Iraqi human rights investigator ...

Yep, these guys are reliable sources.

20 posted on 06/07/2006 1:36:25 PM PDT by JoeGar
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To: MizSterious

Thanks for the link to the piece.

It's a well written article based on common sense and "facts" regarding supposed atrocities that have been proven false.

It's too bad the majority of the MSM ignore such reasoning.


21 posted on 06/07/2006 1:52:01 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: pissant

"Thaer al-Hadithi, a member and spokesman for the Hammurabi human rights association, a Sunni Muslim group, recounted with the help of a satellite map when and where Iraqi civilians cowered and sometimes died."

This is Thaer Thabit al-Hadithi. He is the SAME guy who did the video. The 46 year old "budding journalism student."

We constantly hear the same story from him, but our LYING MEDIA always pretend it is a different guy.

Why is that?


22 posted on 06/07/2006 2:01:21 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: MizSterious

Yes, thank you for the link!


23 posted on 06/07/2006 2:07:07 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: pissant

"We will have to literally browbeat the MSM into submission."

well I'm used to that! LOL


24 posted on 06/07/2006 2:28:12 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

"these Marines are innocent until proven guilty." This Airman is in here with these Marines too, kellynla. God Bless them and their families. There are many of us in there with them kellynla.


25 posted on 06/07/2006 4:00:26 PM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270, God Bless America and All Who Have and Will Defend Her.)
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To: JOE43270

Thank you!

We need all the support we can get...on the ground and from the air. LOL

Semper Fi,
Kelly


26 posted on 06/07/2006 4:04:57 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

We need all the support we can get...on the ground and from the air. LOL

You've got it kellynla. I've already called my senators and told them if they have to be court martialed, then they need to put my U.S. Air Force blues back on me and court martial me too. That is how I feel and I mean it.


27 posted on 06/07/2006 4:12:50 PM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270, God Bless America and All Who Have and Will Defend Her.)
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To: JOE43270

Thanks again!


28 posted on 06/07/2006 4:18:32 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: pissant

Air Force Hero To Defend Accused Marines

Wed, 07 Jun '06
Honored Veteran Takes Lead Defense Position
by Senior Correspondent Kevin R.C. "Hognose" O'Brien

Aero-News has learned that USAF Col (Retired) George Everett "Bud" Day MOH, one of the most highly decorated veterans of the Vietnam War, or of US history for that matter, has undertaken to defend "up to 20" Marines who have been accused of crimes up to and including murder in connection with an alleged massacre in Haditha, Iraq.

Col. Day is a veteran, peculiarly enough, of World War II as a Marine, and later of the Army, and then of Korea and Vietnam in the United States Air Force. In Vietnam, he started and led the Misty Super FAC program, which includes among its old boys Dick Rutan and several other aviation luminaries. In a tradition begun by Day, each Misty pilot had a unique numbered callsign beginning, of course, with Misty 1 (Day, of course; Rutan was Misty 40).

Day was marked for success in the Air Force early in his flying career, when he made a "no-chute" ejection from a doomed F-84F and survived. "I bailed out of a burning F-84 in 1957 in England," he wrote in response to an enquiry from the Free Fall Research Page. "My parachute did not open, but lucky for me I landed in the Queen's forest, and the riser cords of the chute wove in and out of the pine tree I fell in. I bailed out between 300 and 500 feet and lived."

On August 24, 1967, then-Major Day was breaking in a new pilot on F-100F "Misty" "fast FAC" duty in the southern reaches of North Vietnam. He was instructing pilot Corwin Kippenham on how best to approach the target, a missile site, when their aircraft was hit. At over 500 knots it became a fireball.

Day ejected, followed by Kippenham, and they landed in North Vietnam near the Demilitarized Zone between North and South Vietnam. Day had a broken arm -- broken in three places -- and a dislocated knee, and the North Vietnamese grabbed him only a mile or so from where Kippenham boarded a helicopter to safety. Later Day escaped, only to be wounded by US fire when he slept too near an enemy artillery site, and ultimately recaptured after being wounded yet again.

In almost six years of captivity, Day endured unspeakable tortures, and, his fellow captives recall, drove his captors wild. In one case he responded to them by singing "the Star Spangled Banner," which earned him a particularly violent beating -- as the other prisoners all joined in, and the guards saw it as a loss of face.

There's no official list of most highly decorated veterans, but Day and Army Colonel Bob Howard are more or less tied for the top title. There was a more highly decorated veteran in World War II, though: Douglas Macarthur. In all, Day has a staggering 70 awards and decorations, not to mention such post-service honors as having the Sioux City Airport named after him.

After retiring from the Air Force in 1977, Bud Day put his long-dormant law degree to work and he has been a lawyer and an activist for veterans ever since. He has not always won, but government attorneys have come to fear him almost as much as the North Vietnamese prison guards did.

These days, the old warrior even sees a rosy side to his bleak years of captivity: "Freedom has a special taste!" His legal record is a formidable as his military record; he has frequently argued appellate cases, and has taken cases to the Supreme Court and argued them there.

While there has been much reaction to probable charges in the Haditha case, no details have been released, charges laid, nor defendants named by officialdom -- yet. But the defendants, whoever they may be -- and we hadn't heard numbers like "20" before -- will not lack effective counsel.
FMI: www.colbudday.com, www.au.af.mil/au/goe/eaglebios/01bios/day01.htm, www.homeofheroes.com/wings/day.html


29 posted on 06/07/2006 8:27:23 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

I loved reading that piece.


30 posted on 06/08/2006 8:25:59 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
This little bit of Anti-American agitprop is blowing-up. I have beeen following this on the Sweetness & Light blog.

What is most disturbing is the way the Hippie Media grants credulity to our enemies while automatically thinking the worse about our best.

I know that is the reality but it still angers me beyond words.

God Bless our Marines.

31 posted on 06/09/2006 5:36:02 AM PDT by bornacatholic (Pope Paul VI. "Use of the old Ordo Missae is in no way left to the choice of priests or people.")
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