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Alan Keyes' remarks at Minuteman fence groundbreaking - President Bush: 'We don't trust you'
RenewAmerica.us ^ | June 7th, 2006 | Alan Keyes

Posted on 06/07/2006 2:39:31 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: Miss Marple
I would invite you to re-read this thread. I made ONE comment about the hat's color. Period.

Yes, but the resulting echoes of your Mr. Blackwell-like sycophants are somewhat deafening.

501 posted on 06/08/2006 3:15:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I'll believe in the efficacy of a "virtual fence" when they put one around the White House...)
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To: EternalVigilance

Oh, FGS. Give it a rest. He looked perfectly stupid and it you weren't so busy being thin skinned you'd have to acknowledge that fact. It was the same with Trent Lott. He went to the President's ranch and sported that ridiculous hat with the pheasant feather. In both cases, after having a laugh at their expense, I almost felt embarassed for them. Both of them desperately trying to appear relevant even if it meant prancing around like a clown


502 posted on 06/08/2006 4:10:26 PM PDT by Darlin' ("You said would I apologize for that?" Bush told him. "The answer is absolutely not.")
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To: Darlin'

Ohm FGS. Give it a rest. It's just a hat. Deal with issues and stop dealing with things that don't matter. You're as bad as the Democrats.


503 posted on 06/08/2006 4:37:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I'll believe in the efficacy of a "virtual fence" when they put one around the White House...)
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To: Howlin

You wait. Can't you see this thing pulling to the right? It goes nowhere without push teeing it up and keeping everyone in the ring.


504 posted on 06/08/2006 4:54:26 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Wait a minute. I can't believe this. Are you blaming ME for whatever OTHER people said?

You have become unhinged. Give it a rest. I don't give a darn if Keyes wears a clown suit or a fright wig.

Why is Connie Hair working for the Minutemen, why was Keyes (who used to employ her) there, and why are they ignoring the issue and making third party rumblings?

505 posted on 06/08/2006 5:25:16 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: EternalVigilance
They're just jealous because Keyes looks awesome in black. ;-)

(2000)

Here's another blast from the past, the year 2000, more pertinent today than ever:

QUESTION: Mr. Ambassador, thank you for being the beacon of morality for this country. [applause] Our country is the envy of the world, despite the many problems that we have, and it seems that our borders are--there's a tremendous problem with the borders of illegal immigration. And it has great taxing effect, particularly in the areas near those borders. Can you address--the political side has done nothing about it over the years. I lived in San Diego for a number of years, and it seems that nothing was ever done, even though there was a lot of talk about it. What would be your approach to immigration? Particularly, illegal immigration?

KEYES: Well, I would wanna make that distinction because, unlike some folks, I am not against immigration, per se. And I think there are objective reasons why it's kinda hypocritical anyway for Americans to be against immigration, since so many folks here are the result of immigration. Now, some people might say I have a better excuse than any to be against immigration, since my ancestors immigrated here by force, as it were. [laughter]

But nonetheless, I think you look at the reality and we, all of us--many of us, anyway--came from somewhere else. They tell me that even the Native Americans (I'm part Cherokee, long way back), Native Americans, they tell me, if you go far enough back--even Native Americans crossed the Bearing Strait over from Asia. You're going back pretty far then, no? So, in a certain sense, the whole New World is populated by immigrants from somewhere else, and I don't believe we should insult the truth of that heritage by pretending that it's done us some harm. It hasn't.

It is a great asset if we manage it responsibly. It still gives us access to things that increase the talent, but also, I think, increase the value that we place even on our own institutions. Because, it doesn't at all hurt that in every generation, we get an influx of folks coming from parts of the world with less freedom into a part of the world with more--who walk the world for a few years and just say, "I love this place!" That's a good thing. It reminds those of us who might take it for granted of the value of what we've got. So, I'm not against immigration, per se. But, I do believe that it has to be carefully regulated, so that it does not damage our quality of life, destroy our infrastructure. I think we are, in a way, the urban area of the world. And, if you look at a lot of the countries around the world, like Mexico and India and places like this, urban areas become a magnet for the people from the less developed rural areas. And they come in such large numbers that the infrastructures of the cities break down, and they can't handle it. We don't want America to become a large-scale version of that breakdown. And so, we've got to be responsible. We've got to act on behalf of the great trust which, I believe, we have for humanity in terms of the welfare of this country.

So, you limit immigration through the law and then--here's the key part, and know this is hard, so brace yourselves. This is a very unusual suggestion I'm gonna make. It'll come hard. You'll think I'm really radical and wonder how it is that I could ever hope to do anything in politics. But I think the key to dealing with our immigration challenge is to enforce the law. [laughter and applause]

Now, I know--wait, see. You're ready to throw brickbats at me. No. Consider the laws are on the books. But we have so many folks who want us to act as though they don't exist, and we should not respect the distinction between illegal and legal immigration. We must. And if we don't, then we ourselves are undermining the laws. They become not even empty words. They become worse than that.

And so, we've got to enforce the law. That requires cooperation from state and local governments. And it requires cooperation from private business. It also requires a willingness to react firmly to those levels of government and to those businesses that violate the law. That's what enforcing the law is all about. Now, in many areas of this country, you have people who are winkin' and connivin' at illegal immigration, because somebody's who's powerful in their political scene or in their economic scene is, well, pulling the strings. If it's bad for the country, then we're gonna have to have leaders at the national level with the integrity to enforce national responsibility, even in the face of those state and local political obstacles.

In this area, it is the responsibility of the federal government. We have a federal government who's been willing to take on all kinds of responsibility that they shouldn't have. They want to take over education. They want to dictate law enforcement, and this and that. It's not their job. But the defense of this country and the integrity of its borders is the job of the federal government and they ought to do it with courage and responsibility. [applause]

Having said that, though, I hope that everyone will realize it's part of the reason that I believe in conducting politics the way I do. Some people tell me that it may never succeed to just go out there, state what you think is right, and try to get enough people on your side to make it happen. But, if you do it that way, people are very clear about exactly what you stand for, that if you ever do get elected nobody will be unclear about what's coming. And in the area of immigration, if Alan Keyes ever gets elected to the White House, state and local governments can expect to find a federal government that will be very hard about the business of looking you in the eye and saying, "Not a penny comes from us, if you won't cooperate in enforcing the integrity of our borders." And I'll be clear and strict about it. [applause]

It's time we stopped payin' lip service. I think we should also encourage--this would be done at the state level through the political coalition we represented--we encourage at the state level, we encourage in a proper form at the national level the implementation of the ideas that were in Proposition 187. I know there are people who somehow like to argue that if you're somehow in favor of something like that, where you're essentially saying to illegal immigrants, "We are not going to treat you as if you're legal immigrants; we're certainly not going to treat you as citizens." And they like to say, "Well, that's being discriminatory. That's awful. That's bigoted." What's going on in this country? Have we lost our minds? We put laws on the books, and then when people break the law, we consider ourselves wicked folks because we enforce it. I was particularly struck by this during the Proposition 187 debates some years ago. Because, the Mexican government, they have a representative in California, he was speaking out about how terrible this was because somehow it was going to be discriminatory against folks coming over from Mexico.

Unfortunately for somebody like myself, having worked in the international arena and at one time having done a fair amount of work in this very area, I knew that if you want to find a government that's as hard as nails when it comes to the question of immigration into its country, the status of aliens, most people who are actually are legal aliens in Mexico have only very limited and truncated rights, in terms of what they can do, contracts they can enter into, and so forth and so on. If you're illegal, they don't even take the time of day to explain it to you. They just put your butt on the latest thing out of town, and off you go. And no apologies accepted. No long administrative tribunals. No rights. Nothin' else.

And I'm watchin' as the representative of this government, tough as nails in enforcing its own law, dares to get on a high horse and tell us that we can't take rudimentary steps to enforce our own. This is absurd. We don't have to feel badly about it. We are, in fact, meeting our responsibility to people all over the world who come to this country with a sense of hope by not making stupid mistakes that will destroy the reality of that hope. It's our stewardship responsibility to do this in the right way. [applause]

Alan Keyes, Renew America rally, March 8, 2000


506 posted on 06/08/2006 6:02:52 PM PDT by Gelato
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To: Miss Marple
I am under the impression he is living in Illinois. There is at least a 50 deg temp diff. from there to south Arizona right now. Light colors reflect ultraviolet. Dark colors absorb infrared. Big hats were invented for this long before science came along to explain it. Light sombreros were used in Mexico and S.A. to reflect sunlight for a long time before we met.

How would you line your nose, lips, face, neck turn reddish brown from the sun? My skin turns brown almost by command because it's been trained. I like hot weather. I do things outdoors at work that nobody else has the training to do.

I'm a white guy that can turn into a Puerto-Rican shade. My supervisor is a Mexican-American who is turning as white as an Irishman by dealing with BS I daintily slinked away from:) Good move, huh?

507 posted on 06/08/2006 8:33:51 PM PDT by BobS
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To: Miss Marple
Why is Connie Hair working for the Minutemen, why was Keyes (who used to employ her) there, and why are they ignoring the issue and making third party rumblings?

Because they want to? Last time I checked, Americans don't need your permission to do whatever they want politically.

510 posted on 06/08/2006 9:19:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I'll believe in the efficacy of a "virtual fence" when they put one around the White House...)
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To: Katatak
Touche! He does look pretty darn good!

Indeed he does:

Forget the inane fashion police. Alan Keyes has the poise to wear whatever he darn well pleases.

511 posted on 06/08/2006 10:19:47 PM PDT by Gelato
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To: EternalVigilance
Someone claimed earlier that Keyes hasn't been concerned with illegal immigration until recently. Apparently, they must have missed what he's been saying for years. What a surprise, eh?

It didn't take long to find this exchange from back in 1998.

Question: Yes, Mr. Keyes. Thank you very much for coming. As a former Democrat, in New York, I saw you recently on the Black forum--“The Tony Brown Journal.” I happen to love Tony Brown. Tony Brown had a gentleman on, a military strategist named Thomas Chittham. In his book Civil War II, he says that if we do not resolve the social ills of this country, the massive illegal immigration, that it is a possibility--and I quote you--“this republic could be finished; we could possibly break up.”

What is your opinion on this massive illegal immigration, with hardly no enforcement?

Keyes: I think it is very clear. I do not understand why some people insist on acting as if a concern over illegal immigration is somehow a rejection of the immigrant traditions of this country. It is not. I am strongly committed to those traditions, as I think we all ought to be. They have been a source of hope and vibrancy for this nation.

On the other hand, I think that in order to maintain our tradition of immigration, we have to be crystal clear that we are not going to tolerate illegal immigration. That is step number one.

But it is easy to say that, and I’m sure folks in the Congress will be coming forward soon, as even President Clinton was saying the other day, with bills to tighten up the border and so forth. But the thing that I find interesting is that if you really are serious about ending illegal immigration, then you ought to be serious about maintaining those controls over access to our welfare system and other things that will keep folks from being attracted into this country because they think they will get a free ride.

And I think also--and this is a challenge I directly put to the folks in the Congress--if you are concerned about illegal immigration, then you ought to be deeply concerned about the possibility that folks who are not even citizens have been exercising the franchise anywhere in this country. And I would call on them, in that context, to prove how serious they are about defending the integrity of our borders--and our citizenship--and stop playing games with problems like those involved in Bob Dornan’s district in California.

On matters like this, I want to listen to what this Republican leadership in the Congress is saying. But I can’t hear it anymore, because what they are doing deafens me, and keeps me from believing what they say.

Alan Keyes at CPAC, January 31, 1998

Pretty close to what is said today.
512 posted on 06/08/2006 10:42:09 PM PDT by Gelato
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To: Gelato

What! Alan Keyes was way ahead of the herd?!?

You're going to give his detractors here heart palpatations!!

;-)


513 posted on 06/08/2006 10:47:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I'll believe in the efficacy of a "virtual fence" when they put one around the White House...)
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To: EternalVigilance
Hard to believe, I know. ;-D

Sad, isn't it, that it's taken catastrophe and eight more years of invasion to motivate everyone else to catch up.
514 posted on 06/08/2006 11:00:48 PM PDT by Gelato
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To: Gelato

Unfortunately, the same elites he was referring to then still are NOT listening.


515 posted on 06/08/2006 11:02:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I'll believe in the efficacy of a "virtual fence" when they put one around the White House...)
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To: EternalVigilance

God bless Alan Keyes.


516 posted on 06/09/2006 3:19:52 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Amen to that.


517 posted on 06/09/2006 3:20:44 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I'll believe in the efficacy of a "virtual fence" when they put one around the White House...)
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To: Texasforever

It was mostly because he wasn't from Illinois.

Only the Democrats elect non=citizens of a state to the Senate.


518 posted on 06/11/2006 2:37:25 PM PDT by donmeaker (Burn the UN flag publicly.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

sooo a R that governs like a D os ok...like Bush has on education etc???

I would rather the R party totally disolve and loose every election then to have these rinos turn their backs on the voters that put em in office. The days of saying one thing on the campaign trail and doing another in office is over as far as i am concerned.

my vote goes to those who walk the walk and get results. not cower from critisism and blur their voting record.


519 posted on 01/06/2008 7:42:49 AM PST by Casaubon (Internet Research Ninja Masta)
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To: Casaubon
The days of saying one thing on the campaign trail and doing another in office is over as far as i am concerned.

G.W. Bush ran for office on a guest worker program and for a new prescription drug program. He didn't get one, but he got the other. Just a reminder. :)

520 posted on 01/06/2008 10:28:20 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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