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Huh? NY Times Says GOP Victory in California Election Signals 'Problems' for Party
newsbusters/NY Times ^ | June 7, 2006 | Clay Waters

Posted on 06/07/2006 7:19:18 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

A Republican won a special congressional election in Southern California yesterday – so why does the Times make it sound as if the Republicans got beat?

Chief political reporter Adam Nagourney’s online filing Wednesday morning on last night's electoral victory by Republican Brian Bilbray begins:

“A Republican former congressman slipped to victory in a special election here Tuesday, staving off what would have been a highly embarrassing Democratic victory in a solidly Republican district. National Republicans poured in nearly $5 million and dozens of campaign workers to help hold the seat for their party.”

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bilbray; busby; california; enemedia; liberalmedia; liberals; liberalspin; libmedia; mediabias; nyslimes; nytimes; republican; republicans
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Hasn't 45%(which is what Busby got) always been the typical for liberals in the 50th district?
1 posted on 06/07/2006 7:19:23 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

NYT: Ever spinning hope for the Democrats -- instead of actual news. Soon, their stock will be worth less than toilet paper.


3 posted on 06/07/2006 7:21:34 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Memo to GOP: Don't ask me for any more money until you secure our Southern border.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

45% been the typical for liberals in the 50th district?

That's about what Kerry got. He's as liberal as it comes.
Adam forgets 55% did not vote Democrat!


4 posted on 06/07/2006 7:22:47 PM PDT by ConservativeGreek
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

He was running against two others and she had no competition. But the dummies at the NYT can't add much less write.


5 posted on 06/07/2006 7:23:31 PM PDT by marty60
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I'm sure the republicans would love to have "problems" like this forever.


6 posted on 06/07/2006 7:26:01 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
So defeat for Democrats is really a victory?

I suppose red is blue, and water is dry, when some guy on the highway gives me the finger he's really concerned for my well being.

I'm wondering, are these people restrained in some way, or are they permitted to roam freely?
7 posted on 06/07/2006 7:27:26 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

toilet paper resents that comparison..


8 posted on 06/07/2006 7:28:10 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
so why does the Times make it sound as if the Republicans got beat?

That's what propagandists do!

9 posted on 06/07/2006 7:29:14 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I remember back in 1984 when they said Ronald Reagan's historic 49-state win in the electoral college didn't give him a mandate.


10 posted on 06/07/2006 7:32:01 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

since you become a hero in the democratic party when you lose...

I expect this loser to run for President.


11 posted on 06/07/2006 7:32:23 PM PDT by conservative physics
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

MORAL VICTORY!!!!!!


12 posted on 06/07/2006 7:35:11 PM PDT by fhlh (Polls are for Strippers.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
“A Republican former congressman slipped to victory..."
Oh my gosh. That's the most pathetic thing I've read, uh, well, almost all day. (Competition is fierce in these interesting times.)
13 posted on 06/07/2006 7:36:39 PM PDT by AnnaZ (Victory at all costs-in spite of all terror-however long and hard the road may be-for survival)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The DNC will give Busby the brush and she will poll about 39% this fall.


14 posted on 06/07/2006 7:45:28 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

From Reuters:

"Busby has raised over $2.5 million, while Bilbray's campaign took in about $1 million. Republican and Democratic national campaign committees have inundated the San Diego County airwaves, spending more than $4 million, according to disclosure records."

I sense there's Democrat advisor coverup or exageration. This site says as of May 17 busby raised 2.2 million, Bilbray 1.1

http://www.tray.com/cgi-win/x_candidate.exe?DoFn=&sYR=2006

Can't find party disclosures.


15 posted on 06/07/2006 7:45:37 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: AnnaZ

If it had been a lib, he would have "charged into victory on his white horse!"


16 posted on 06/07/2006 7:47:28 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Not quite. Candidates aren't generic. This is why parties lose seats primarily when their incumbent officeholders retire. Randy Cunningham was a big time war hero. Bilbray is probably a nice guy. But he's no Randy Cunningham. And Randy Cunningham pled guilty to (as opposed to being merely indicted for) fraud, which specifically tarnishes the image of Republicans in his former district. Busby's defeat is a major blow to the Democrats - between Bilbray not being Cunningham* (in his salad days) and the corruption scandal, she should have won in a landslide.

* Cunningham's wartime exploits are legendary - as opposed to being Kerryesque - he was the first of only two aces during the Vietnam War.


17 posted on 06/07/2006 7:48:53 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Paleo Conservative
Nope, have to get 100% of the vote like their boy, Saddam in order to have a mandate.
18 posted on 06/07/2006 7:50:22 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; Common Tator

The media is pathetic. FReeper Common Tator remarked how the media spun a Dem primary victory in Montana into a loss for the GOP.


19 posted on 06/07/2006 7:50:27 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Conservatism is moderate, it is the center, it is the middle of the road)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Wait until the people in Massaghanistan fire El Gordo Kennedy on November 7 for selling us out to those who don't need no stinking papers.


20 posted on 06/07/2006 7:52:16 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: AnnaZ

Have you read the actual article?

It's been changed now. How dishonest is that?


21 posted on 06/07/2006 7:53:41 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Hasn't 45%(which is what Busby got) always been the typical for liberals in the 50th district?

More generally, hasn't 45% always been considered a losing amount of votes?

-PJ

22 posted on 06/07/2006 7:56:16 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

no way!?


23 posted on 06/07/2006 8:03:17 PM PDT by GodfearingTexan
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Jim Miller pointed out another important factor - Bilbray is a carpetbagger, having moved in from another district just to run for the seat, whereas Busby is native to the area.


24 posted on 06/07/2006 8:03:45 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The MSM does nothing now but spew out propaganda for the leftist socialist anti American pieces of trash that call themselves democrats.


25 posted on 06/07/2006 8:07:12 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The New York Times and The LA Times both have the same liberal slant. In Los Angeles, no one believes stories the LA Times because of the "hitpieces" against conservatives.The same thing should apply to the New York Times.


26 posted on 06/07/2006 8:11:47 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Vincit Omnia Vertas- translation:Truth Conquers All.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Usually, except for Clinton in 1992. And nobody in the MSM challenged his mandate then, either.


27 posted on 06/07/2006 8:12:00 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

So why did meathead's socialist pre-school plan get stomped in "liberal" California.

And for all you poll lovers: Busby 47%, Bilbray 40%

And if President Bush is so unpopular, why isn't the public clamouring to get into the "Dixie Hicks" sold out concerts? Oh, you mean there not sold out? You mean they may have to cancel some of them?


28 posted on 06/07/2006 8:12:42 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Jesus always reads His knee-mail. (Hall of Fame Hit-N-Run poster))
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To: bannie
The depth of their delusions is eminently fascinating.
29 posted on 06/07/2006 8:13:21 PM PDT by AnnaZ (Victory at all costs-in spite of all terror-however long and hard the road may be-for survival)
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To: bannie
For all you out of towners, President Bush, Sen Frisk, Majority Leader Hasker and all republicans running this fall. The issue is no amnesty.

Let's review what happened here, First Bilbray and affiliated groups spent $5mm and Busby etal spent $6mm. You couldn't turn on tv without one of their ads. Busby even ran an ad telling people to vote for the minuteman candidate. He got 4.5%.

Bilbray has run on one issue here, no amnesty. He wants to secure the borders, enforce the laws, no amnesty. He never came off that position.

The demo's tried to paint him as being joined at the hip in the cult of corruption with Cunningham.

That is a losing strategy. Hope they use it again this fall. It all came together last Thursday night. Busby had a meeting with hispanic leaders in Escondido, north of SD. She did not think the MSM would be there, they weren't. Fortunately, some minutemen were there and recorded the meeting. When asked how the hispanics could help her, she replied,"you don't need papers to vote." There she was telling them is a backhanded way that they could vote, illegal or not.

Friday the tape was released to Roger Hedgecock and he played it. The stampede was on.

As this is going on McCain was suppose to appear at a fund raiser with Bilbray. McCain wanted Bilbray to support his open border program with Kennedy. Bilbray said, no thank you. Everyone here appreciated that someone told McCain that he was not the center of the universe and to blow out of town.

By Monday Busby was sinking. Oh, by the way, last week Hedgecock predicted her winning. She tried to clarify her statement on the radio again. Repeated it again. "You don't need papers to vote." Sometimes, we speak what we really mean not what the handlers have pumped into us.

By Monday afternoon, a lawyer from the DNC had written all the media outlets here on Busby's behalf threatening to sue if anyone ran the tape again. Hedgecock put it in loop mode. Too funny.

Then last Monday she appeared on Hedgecock's show, first time during the campaign. Roger read the DNC letter, asked her if she knew the author and whether he was speaking for her. She honestly said she did not know him, no one informed her that this letter was out there.

The rest is history.

Moral of the story, republicans run against amnesty, secure the borders, enforce our laws. Americans will love you and elect you. McCain is dead, Bush is back-stoking, the demos will lose if pressed on this issue. Sell security for America and its way of life. Thank you Brian Bilbray for sticking to your guns and pointing the way.
30 posted on 06/07/2006 8:15:25 PM PDT by Kozy (Calling Al Gore)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
It's been changed now. How dishonest is that?
Their delusions used to be all they had... now they can't even hang on to them. LOL.
31 posted on 06/07/2006 8:15:56 PM PDT by AnnaZ (Victory at all costs-in spite of all terror-however long and hard the road may be-for survival)
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To: Kozy

That was awesome!!!I agree!!


32 posted on 06/07/2006 8:16:47 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Vincit Omnia Vertas- translation:Truth Conquers All.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

pingster! ;-)


33 posted on 06/07/2006 8:16:53 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Usually, except for Clinton in 1992. And nobody in the MSM challenged his mandate then, either

Yeah, I remember Slick's 43% of the vote "landslide" in 1992. Even made Reagan's 1984 victory look like a squeaker NOT.

34 posted on 06/07/2006 8:17:31 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Conservatism is moderate, it is the center, it is the middle of the road)
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To: HitmanLV

These guys are such a sore losers. They're eating crow today, after they predicted the GOP would lose in California yesterday. Go figure.


35 posted on 06/07/2006 8:20:41 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul

If Busby had won by 1%, she would be on every news tv show smiling and that's all they would be talking about.

Instead, the GOP wins by 5% (and another conservative candidate gets 5&) and it's not worth talking about.


36 posted on 06/07/2006 8:23:31 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: Baynative

New York Slimes

ALL THE FAKE BUT ACCUARATE NEWS NOT FIT TO PRINT


37 posted on 06/07/2006 8:24:00 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
National Republicans poured in nearly $5 million and dozens of campaign workers to help hold the seat for their party.”

Yes, and how much money did the Democrats throw at it?

38 posted on 06/07/2006 8:24:52 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: HitmanLV

That's exactly right. What a bunch of crybabies.


39 posted on 06/07/2006 8:25:12 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

"A Republican former congressman slipped to victory"

Bilbray EARNED his victory, he didnt just slip into it.

And for all you poll lovers: Busby 47%, Bilbray 40% "

SO Bilbray did 12 points better than the poll. LOL


40 posted on 06/07/2006 8:31:17 PM PDT by WOSG (Do your duty, be a patriot, support our Troops - VOTE!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I remember back in 1984 when they said Ronald Reagan's historic 49-state win in the electoral college didn't give him a mandate.

Yeah...and when you're a lib, you only need 43% to get a mandate from the MSM.


41 posted on 06/07/2006 8:32:11 PM PDT by NewLand (Posting against liberalism since the 20th century!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I wonder when the Times will get around to intentionally misreporting the results of an election, saying that the Democrat won when in fact the Republican won, then sticking with that story. NYT political reporting is already so shoddy and agenda-driven that it wouldn't be much of a leap.

"President Kerry met with U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan today to discuss..."

42 posted on 06/07/2006 8:33:18 PM PDT by TChad
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FYI special elections are usually closer than regular/general elections because there is almost always no incumbent running.

To compare Busby's 20% loss last time she ran to her 4% loss this time and declare it a meaningful gain ignores the above reality.

What was seen last night is there is NO rising tide, there is NO devastation unfolding because of Bush's polling and there is NO evidence anywhere but in the media's imagination that some political earthquake is unfolding.

And for those who say the GOP can't send $5 million to every district, well, they know very well the GOP doesn't need to. It need only send to the few vulnerable districts -- and we ain't gonna run out of money to do that.

Hell, even the guys so angry about immigration and who don't want to send anything to the GOP can still wreak havoc on the Democrat liberals in vulnerable districts by funding those individual GOP candidates whose positions they like. Send direct to the campaign, not the GOP.

Problem solved.

The party out of power usually loses a few seats in an off year election. Bad news for the Dems. A few seats won't shift the majority.


43 posted on 06/07/2006 8:36:05 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
A victory is a victory and a loss is a loss, regardless of how the liberal media try to spin it.

We Repub's aren't greedy; you Dems are welcome to claim every vote short of those needed to elect our candidate.
44 posted on 06/07/2006 8:37:47 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Dear US Senators, Reps. and Mr. President: Why are y'all abetting the destruction of our culture?)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

These guys are pretty bad. They are going to be beside themselves on election night. Must-See TV!


45 posted on 06/07/2006 8:38:00 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

While that would be nice, I can't see it happening. They've been re-electing his ubiquitous butt for far too long for me to believe that they're going to dump him any time soon.


46 posted on 06/07/2006 8:41:02 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
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47 posted on 06/07/2006 8:50:10 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: HitmanLV

It's all about putting up the good fight. Let the Dems and the MSM pat themselves on the backs all they want for the moral victories, the Repubs are getting the victories that actually count for something.


48 posted on 06/07/2006 8:53:19 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Baynative

$5 million and it was worth every penny if Republicans keep the House and Senate in 11/06. A defeat will cost everyone more in raised taxes and a defeat in the war on terror.


49 posted on 06/07/2006 8:56:34 PM PDT by RicocheT
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

They already print so many lies that they figure people will actually believe that the victory in California is bad for Republicans. Most Americans believe the economy is bad because the media reports it as such and that is not true.


50 posted on 06/07/2006 9:01:54 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents or anyone just passing through)
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