Skip to comments.ABC News: Zarqawi may have been killed [Confirmed DEAD by NBC] Now breaking on MSNBC & CNN
Posted on 06/07/2006 11:41:09 PM PDT by StJacquesEdited on 06/08/2006 1:00:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
It's on ABC Late Night News Right Now
ABC News Update:
BAGHDAD, Iraq Jun 8, 2006 (AP) Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the al-Qaida-linked militant who led a bloody campaign of suicide bombings, kidnappings and hostage beheadings in Iraq, has been killed in a U.S. air raid north of Baghdad, Iraq's prime minister said Thursday.
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said al-Zarqawi was killed Wednesday evening along with seven aides.
"We don't really know what will happen, but we are guessing that there might be a brief retaliatory spike in violence, but perhaps after that, they'll either be in "regrouping" mode or maybe they'll finally realize they're not going to GET Iraq."
Keep your head down. I suspect there will be retaliation. Who knows how long it will last.
Has Katie Couric offered to deliver the eulogy yet?
To be clear I didnt mean Eagle Talon was a troll, him and I had discussed the armchair dude who got the Zot eariler in the thread.
He (armchair) was the troll.
See the confusion they cause?
Or maybe it was that I didnt state more clearly who was the troll.
I thought it was cool that in other news today the USS Cole went back to the middle east.
I don't think they grasp the concept of sarcasm.
Atlast he can go to his allah and dance with his 72 virgins!!!
Now its time to take care of osama along with our domestic enemies!!!!
Rest In Pieces.
Glad to hear you don't think Eagle Talon IV is a troll.
It was a great thrill to read up to post 2501 (getting madder and madder at this guy raining on the parade) and then see Jim pull his plug.
Quite a night!
"....just like they did with our soldiers."
Why do you want to lower American to their level?
That quote came from another poster. I don't think you read my response correctly. I believe the deity has already enacted the proper punishment.
For sure. Irregardless of what his justice may be, his death has paid his debt to mankind, regardless of the debt or the worthlessness of the life he put up as collateral, that's all he had and all his debtors can ever collect.
Exactly. And from a practical standpoint, anything we or the Iraqis would have done would have cost money. Some say he should have been captured alive. I don't think so, again because of the cost to keep him around. But more importantly, there was that possibility he could have been sprung from jail. In fact, on a documentary about him last night, it said he had been imprisoned at least once, maybe twice, and let go. I would not have wanted the risk of release to happen again.
I really don't understand the lefties whining about this guy dying. One second they say that Bush created him in the first place by invading Iraq. The next second, they say Bush could have killed him in 2002, BEFORE THE IRAQ WAR. These two things contradict each other.
Even worse, there was a moonbat on a local tv talk show last night who claimed that Al Zaqari did not really exist. He was a propaganda tool created by the U.S. Government and any films of him were done with an actor (or actors) by the military. Supposedly, the photos of his lifeless body were also created by the U.S., using this actor and painting the blood and wounds on his face. The hostess of the show, a leftist herself, didn't comment much, but the expression on her face said it all. The word "incredulous" doesn't even begin to describe it. I never laughed so hard in my life.
Interesting note on Fox just now...Zarqawi was still alive when US ground forces got to the bombed house. He died on the stretcher...(attempted to roll off. Didn't or wouldn't answer questions.)
Last time I fished was many years ago. Red snapper while in the Keys. The ones we caught weren't as big as your fish.
Nothing like freshly frying fish, is there? I can't stand to buy fish in the store. It tastes so old.
Watch some idiots use that Fox news to undermine the ground forces.
Thank you. That's very kind.
Interesting note on Fox just now...Zarqawi was still alive when US ground forces got to the bombed house. He died on the stretcher...(attempted to roll off. Didn't or wouldn't answer questions.)
Oh swell...now the moonies will come out claiming that we committed "atrocities" because we violated his rights by "killing him." Already, they're whining that some child MAY have been killed in the bombing. Notice I said "MAY" -- all that was produced were a child's backpack and a shoe or sandal. Even if civilians died in this attack, unlike the lefties, I refuse to feel guilty about this. The main thing is that we got old al-Z and maybe a few more of these murderous thugs. No matter what the moonbats say or do, it's still a victory, something we should all be proud of. And I'm proud -- of our troops, the Iraqis and everyone else involved in bringing about this victory. Bravo!
On the other hand, one is seldom blown to hell by a bomb without wounds here and there, including a shiner or two.
That's a great pic. Thanks!
TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, HER ALLIES AND FRIENDS:
BULLSEYE! GOOD SHOT.
I never claimed to be an expert but I do know what I see when the libs opine on this forum. Who are they dividing anyway? We've always had RINO's in the Party and we always will. There are States in which a true conservative can never be elected, at least now and it is better to have a RINO in these States then a liberal even if the only reason is it may give us control of the committees and the agenda. I believe in the adage that when your enemy is digging a hole for himself you don't take his shovel away.
In fact, the opposition is far from being composed of morons. They are running a very tidy campaign of divide and conquer the conservatives now. And the "morons" were winning last time I checked.
They're winning? By whose measure? Maybe the polls have you a bit depressed? The polls are pure crap and if you have followed politics for any length of time you would know this. In June of 2004 the LAT ran a poll asking the question of who the people thought would do a better job running the country (congress), the Democrats or Republicans. The results published showed the Democrat's favored by 19 points, a huge number. They lost seats in both Houses that year. In 1994 when the Republicans crushed the Democrats and took both Houses away from them the lib media had Dem's gaining seats. Up until almost the day before the election in the 50th District in CA the polls had Busby, the lib winning but it turns out Brilbay won by almost 10% when he consider there were 3 Rep running against 1 Dem. The American people are not nearly as dumb as you and many others make them out to be and I will be proved right again in November. Not only don't I think the Rep will lose control of the Congress but I believe they will actually gain seats in the House. The left can only demoralize you if you let them do so. The Democrat Party is nothing but an empty shell filled with individuals with no ideas and no message save that of trashing anyone that disagrees with them in any way. As each day goes by they become more and more desperate and as their desperation increases so does their hateful rhetoric. Hate has never and will never win an election for any political Party.
I hope the scum had enough time to reflect on the fact he was dying and was able to feel agony such as he inflicted on others.
I swear I would donate $10,000 to anyones favorite charity if they could get me close enough to the bastard to piss on his dead body.
Now the MSM is playing up that the Zarqmeister survived the initial bombing, as though it was some kind of failure. What a bunch of pukes!
Yuo are right, I stand corrected.
By KIM GAMEL and ROBERT BURNS, Associated Press Writers
Physical Scientist Kristi Oberbroeckling carries a bag containing three boxes of biological samples believed to be from Abu Musab al-Zarqawi or his associates to the FBI lab in Quantico, Virginia June 8, 2006. In one of the most significant developments in Iraq since the capture of Saddam Hussein in 2003, Jordanian-born Zarqawi was killed on Wednesday in a joint U-S.-Iraqi operation helped by tip-offs from Iraqis and Jordanian intelligence. REUTERS/Kevin Wolf/Pool (UNITED STATES)
FBI agents deliver a package containing three boxes of biological samples believed to be from Abu Musab al-Zarqawi or his associates to the FBI lab in Quantico, Virginia June 8, 2006. In one of the most significant developments in Iraq since the capture of Saddam Hussein in 2003, Jordanian-born Zarqawi was killed on Wednesday in a joint U-S.-Iraqi operation helped by tip-offs from Iraqis and Jordanian intelligence. REUTERS/Kevin Wolf/Pool (UNITED STATES)
BAGHDAD, Iraq - A mortally wounded Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was still alive and mumbling after American airstrikes on his hideout and tried to get off a stretcher when he became aware of U.S. troops at the scene, a top military official said Friday.
Also, U.S. troops conducted 39 raids late Thursday and early Friday based on information gleaned from searches in the hours after the al-Qaida leader's death. Fearing that insurgents will seek revenge, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki imposed driving bans in Baghdad and restive Diyala province, where the terrorist was killed.
Al-Zarqawi could barely speak when Iraqi police arrived at the scene of Wednesday's attack.
"He mumbled something, but it was indistinguishable and it was very short," U.S. military spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said at a news conference.
U.S. and Polish forces arrived intending to provide unspecified medical treatment, and al-Zarqawi was put on a stretcher, Caldwell said. The terrorist "attempted to sort of turn away off the stretcher, everybody reached to insert him back. ... He died a short time later from the wounds suffered during the airstrike.
"We did in fact see him alive," he said. "There was some sort of movement he had on the stretcher, and he did die a short time later."
Caldwell said the U.S. military was still compiling details of the airstrike, including the exact amount of time Zarqawi was alive afterward. He said an initial analysis of Zarqawi's body was done but he was not certain it constituted a full autopsy.
In an interview earlier Friday with Fox News, Caldwell was more descriptive of Zarqawi's actions before he died.
"He was conscious initially, according to the U.S. forces that physically saw him," Caldwell told Fox. "He obviously had some kind of visual recognition of who they were because he attempted to roll off the stretcher, as I am told, and get away, realizing it was U.S. military."
At the news conference, the spokesman also provided a revised death toll from the attack.
Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, had said four people, including a woman and a child, were killed with al-Zarqawi and Abu Abdul-Rahman al-Iraqi, the terrorist's spiritual consultant.
Caldwell said it now appears there was no child among those killed. He cautioned that some facts were still being sorted out but said that three women and three men, including al-Zarqawi, were killed.
Pentagon officials have refused to say whether U.S. special operations forces participated in the al-Zarqawi operation Wednesday, but a comment Friday by President Bush suggested that some of the military's most secretive units may have been involved on the ground.
Speaking to reporters, Bush mentioned that among the senior officers he called to offer congratulations for killing Zarqawi was Army Lt. Gen. Stanley McChrystal, commander of Joint Special Operations Command, whose forces include the Army's clandestine counterterrorism unit, Delta Force.
Caldwell also said U.S. forces have conducted many raids over the past two days based on intelligence gathered from the scene of Zarqawi's killing.
A targeted individual was killed and at least 25 people were captured, he said. One raid discovered small arms, ammunition and other items hidden beneath the floor of a building in the Baghdad area.
Speaking to the British Broadcasting Corp., the spokesman said troops carried out 39 raids overnight in which troops "picked up things like memory sticks, some hard drives" that would allow American forces to begin dismantling al-Zarqawi's al-Qaida in Iraq.
Those raids were based on 17 simultaneous raids U.S. troops staged Wednesday near Baqouba, the capital of Diyala province. The region is in the heartland of the Sunni Arab-led insurgency and has seen a recent rise in sectarian violence. Baqouba is 35 miles northeast of Baghdad.
He said the latest information was helping U.S. forces unravel the source of al-Qaida's weapons and financing.
As Iraqi and U.S. leaders cautioned that al-Zarqawi's death was not likely to end the insurgency, Caldwell said another foreign-born militant was poised to take over the terror network's operations.
He said Egyptian-born Abu al-Masri would likely take the reins of al-Qaida in Iraq. He said al-Masri trained in Afghanistan and arrived in Iraq in 2002 to establish an al-Qaida cell.
Muslim cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri speaks at a press conference in this Jan. 20, 1999 file photo. According to U.S. military spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, al-Masri would likely take the reins of al-Qaida in Iraq. (AP Photo/Alastair Grant, File)
The U.S. military did not further identify al-Masri and his real identity could not immediately be determined. But the Central Command has listed an Abu Ayyub al-Masri as among its most wanted al-Zarqawi associates and placed a $50,000 bounty on his head.
Al-Masri, whose name is an obvious alias meaning "father of the Egyptian," is believed to be an expert at constructing roadside bombs, the leading cause of U.S. military casualties in Iraq.
The midday driving ban in Baghdad lasted four hours. All traffic was banned in Diyala from 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. for three days starting Friday.
The Baghdad ban fell when most Iraqis attend Friday prayers. Bombers have previously targeted Shiite mosques with suicide attackers and mortars hidden in vehicles.
The bans aim "to protect mosques and prayers from any possible terrorist attacks, especially car bombs, in the wake off yesterday's event," an Iraqi government official said, referring to al-Zarqawi's death. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to media.
Al-Zarqawi, who had a $25 million bounty on his head, was killed at after an intense two-week hunt that U.S. officials said first led to his spiritual adviser and then to him.
The U.S. military had displayed images of the battered face of al-Zarqawi and reported that he was identified by fingerprints, tattoos and scars. But Caldwell said Friday that authorities made a visual identification of al-Zarqawi at the site of the airstrike.
Biological samples from his body were delivered to an FBI crime laboratory in Virginia for DNA testing. Results were expected in three days.
Violence was unabated Thursday and Friday:
_Gunmen kidnapped Muthanna al-Badri, director general of state company for oil projects, or SCOP, while he drove Thursday in his predominantly Sunni Arab neighborhood of Baghdad, ministry spokesman Assem Jihad said Friday.
_A fire fight Friday west of Baqouba killed five civilians and wounded three, and demolished five houses, according to regional authorities.
_The torso of a man wearing a military uniform was found floating in a river Friday morning near Kut, 100 miles southeast of Baghdad, a morgue official said.
_Police found five unidentified bodies late Thursday of men who had been shot in the head in eastern Baghdad.
_Gunmen opened fire on Friday's funeral procession for the brother of the governor of the northern city of Mosul. Zuhair Kashmola was killed by gunmen on Thursday.
AP Military Writer Robert Burns contributed to this story from Washington.
That was a lot Kat, thanks for a good read.
It would greatly aid getting many fine conservative ladies back into active participation here if ad hominems were banned.
I'm not sure how to deal with the other types of arguments that aren't arguments but simply meant to chill and end discussion, such as slander, holier than thou accusations, and the rude and crude remarks.
The mild profanities are mostly lack of sensitivity about other peoples deeply held beliefs about reverence toward our Creator and Savior. The orthodox Jews probably find it very hard sledding here because of this.
Some have proposed having a sort of "Politics Polite" type of thread here that is protected from ad hominems and the other types of statements meant to chill or end discussion. A thread where one could learn ancillary information about the issues of the day through discussion and information sharing, and also politely discuss alternative strategies and philosophies about how to achieve conservative goals.
I don't have the time or energy to run one myself, but I would love to visit one regularly.
I really hate having to deal with people who ask me if someone peed in my cereal this morning.
I don't care if people think my opinion is wrong. I DO care when they sy that my opinion is wrong because I am a groupie, paid off by the RNC, etc.
I do think the motive for some of these people is to dive people away from FR, so I try to make inteligent and non-inflammatory posts. I do't know if I am effective, but that is what I attempt.
Excellent post patricia . . . I couldn't agree more!
BTW: On one of the threads Thursday, a Freeper posted several comments from DU and Koz (for our edification) . . . One or more of these comments revealed that posters at DU were signing up and posting at FR for one reason: to disrupt and demoralize the Repubican base in advance of the November elections -- a tactic that MANY of us had suspicioned for quite awhile!
Correction: The picture is for Abu Hamza Al Masri, a cleric who resides (or used to) in London, England.
According to Maj. General Caldwell on TV today, the one who may take over in Iraq is Abu Ayyoub Al Masri
Once upon a time there was a chief angel.
Said chief angel decided he could become as God.
God had other ideas and plans.
Said chief angel has been desperately trying to throw whatever dust he can in God's face by destroying as many of God's favorite creatures--man--as he can get away with.
This era is the closing set of scenes of said play.
Which part of evil do you not understand?
Why are people who think as you do allowed to breathe????
- - - -
To make useless idiots look good?
armchairman was banned at post 2501. I love that post.
I tried the calm reasonable discussion of fact and logic and had a couple great thinkers and fact finders along with me and a cadre of nice people at SpeakOut.com.
When the fascist libs realized they were losing the war of words they just kept posting trash to fill all the space so people coming to the forum couldn't find our calm and reasonable discussions. Then they went on to post multiple pictures of some unfortunate's genitalia.
By then most of the decent folk had left. And the website dissolved.
You underestimate the lengths these fascist liberals will go to assert total control if given an inch or to destroy something if they don't have total control. You also overestimate the stomach most people here have for a knife fight.
I strongly believe FR has been allowing too many nasty comments and too much mudslinging here for its own good, and letting libs in deliberately would destroy this place like it destroyed Speakout.com.
Just read your 2nd paragraph over and you will see that you have made my point. They live an existence of lies and become unhinged when faced with the truth.