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ABC News: Zarqawi may have been killed [Confirmed DEAD by NBC] Now breaking on MSNBC & CNN
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Posted on 06/07/2006 11:41:09 PM PDT by StJacques

Edited on 06/08/2006 1:00:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

It's on ABC Late Night News Right Now


ABC News Update:

Iraqi PM: Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi Killed

By PATRICK QUINN

BAGHDAD, Iraq Jun 8, 2006 (AP)— Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the al-Qaida-linked militant who led a bloody campaign of suicide bombings, kidnappings and hostage beheadings in Iraq, has been killed in a U.S. air raid north of Baghdad, Iraq's prime minister said Thursday.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said al-Zarqawi was killed Wednesday evening along with seven aides.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2052072


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To: Allegra

"We don't really know what will happen, but we are guessing that there might be a brief retaliatory spike in violence, but perhaps after that, they'll either be in "regrouping" mode or maybe they'll finally realize they're not going to GET Iraq."

Keep your head down. I suspect there will be retaliation. Who knows how long it will last.


3,051 posted on 06/08/2006 7:44:50 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: StJacques

Has Katie Couric offered to deliver the eulogy yet?


3,052 posted on 06/08/2006 7:46:30 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: armchairman
In case no-ones ever told you before let me tell you now.....You are one selfish, self-centered sob!
3,053 posted on 06/08/2006 7:49:45 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION, IT INCLUDES TERRORIST SLEEPER CELLS!!)
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To: patriciaruth

To be clear I didnt mean Eagle Talon was a troll, him and I had discussed the armchair dude who got the Zot eariler in the thread.
He (armchair) was the troll.

;)

See the confusion they cause?
Or maybe it was that I didnt state more clearly who was the troll.

I thought it was cool that in other news today the USS Cole went back to the middle east.


3,054 posted on 06/08/2006 8:06:37 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: brazzaville

I don't think they grasp the concept of sarcasm.


3,055 posted on 06/08/2006 8:30:00 PM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: StJacques


Atlast he can go to his allah and dance with his 72 virgins!!!

Now its time to take care of osama along with our domestic enemies!!!!


3,056 posted on 06/08/2006 8:35:00 PM PDT by eagle001
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To: pctech
Now show me a similar picture of Bin Laden the house of Saud and my day will be complete.

Better now.

3,057 posted on 06/08/2006 9:09:11 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: StJacques

Rest In Pieces.


3,058 posted on 06/08/2006 9:29:30 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: eagle001; All
We bomb GOOD!


3,059 posted on 06/08/2006 10:43:42 PM PDT by STARWISE (((They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL autho)
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3,060 posted on 06/08/2006 11:47:46 PM PDT by STARWISE (((They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL autho)
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To: No Blue States

Glad to hear you don't think Eagle Talon IV is a troll.

It was a great thrill to read up to post 2501 (getting madder and madder at this guy raining on the parade) and then see Jim pull his plug.

Quite a night!

Cheers!
Patty


3,061 posted on 06/09/2006 4:34:47 AM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: fatnotlazy
For sure. Irregardless of what his justice may be, his death has paid his debt to mankind, regardless of the debt or the worthlessness of the life he put up as collateral, that's all he had and all his debtors can ever collect.
3,062 posted on 06/09/2006 4:44:57 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Dear US Senators, Reps. and Mr. President: Why are y'all abetting the destruction of our culture?)
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To: Buffalo Head

"....just like they did with our soldiers."

Why do you want to lower American to their level?


***

That quote came from another poster. I don't think you read my response correctly. I believe the deity has already enacted the proper punishment.


3,063 posted on 06/09/2006 4:46:16 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: F.J. Mitchell

For sure. Irregardless of what his justice may be, his death has paid his debt to mankind, regardless of the debt or the worthlessness of the life he put up as collateral, that's all he had and all his debtors can ever collect.

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Exactly. And from a practical standpoint, anything we or the Iraqis would have done would have cost money. Some say he should have been captured alive. I don't think so, again because of the cost to keep him around. But more importantly, there was that possibility he could have been sprung from jail. In fact, on a documentary about him last night, it said he had been imprisoned at least once, maybe twice, and let go. I would not have wanted the risk of release to happen again.


3,064 posted on 06/09/2006 4:51:04 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Democratshavenobrains

I really don't understand the lefties whining about this guy dying. One second they say that Bush created him in the first place by invading Iraq. The next second, they say Bush could have killed him in 2002, BEFORE THE IRAQ WAR. These two things contradict each other.

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Even worse, there was a moonbat on a local tv talk show last night who claimed that Al Zaqari did not really exist. He was a propaganda tool created by the U.S. Government and any films of him were done with an actor (or actors) by the military. Supposedly, the photos of his lifeless body were also created by the U.S., using this actor and painting the blood and wounds on his face. The hostess of the show, a leftist herself, didn't comment much, but the expression on her face said it all. The word "incredulous" doesn't even begin to describe it. I never laughed so hard in my life.


3,065 posted on 06/09/2006 4:54:38 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

Interesting note on Fox just now...Zarqawi was still alive when US ground forces got to the bombed house. He died on the stretcher...(attempted to roll off. Didn't or wouldn't answer questions.)


3,066 posted on 06/09/2006 5:01:41 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Liberty Valance

Last time I fished was many years ago. Red snapper while in the Keys. The ones we caught weren't as big as your fish.

Nothing like freshly frying fish, is there? I can't stand to buy fish in the store. It tastes so old.


3,067 posted on 06/09/2006 5:02:28 AM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: hershey

Watch some idiots use that Fox news to undermine the ground forces.


3,068 posted on 06/09/2006 5:04:54 AM PDT by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Thank you. That's very kind.


3,069 posted on 06/09/2006 5:09:06 AM PDT by glad2bdad (If you argue for your weaknesses, sure enough, they're yours.)
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To: hershey

Interesting note on Fox just now...Zarqawi was still alive when US ground forces got to the bombed house. He died on the stretcher...(attempted to roll off. Didn't or wouldn't answer questions.)

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Oh swell...now the moonies will come out claiming that we committed "atrocities" because we violated his rights by "killing him." Already, they're whining that some child MAY have been killed in the bombing. Notice I said "MAY" -- all that was produced were a child's backpack and a shoe or sandal. Even if civilians died in this attack, unlike the lefties, I refuse to feel guilty about this. The main thing is that we got old al-Z and maybe a few more of these murderous thugs. No matter what the moonbats say or do, it's still a victory, something we should all be proud of. And I'm proud -- of our troops, the Iraqis and everyone else involved in bringing about this victory. Bravo!


3,070 posted on 06/09/2006 5:09:32 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: hershey
I suspected that when I saw the picture of him. He had a black eye. Maybe someone who knows more about such things can confirm this. Don't you need a beating heart for a hematoma to develop?
3,071 posted on 06/09/2006 5:13:20 AM PDT by WSGilcrest (Mikey likes it!)
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To: fatnotlazy
Nor would I, God only knows how many innocent people died as a result of each time he evaded justice.

The Saddam trial circus is an example of what we get for bringing 'em back alive. How much more rational, satisfactory and at much less risk to our troops, if they had merely tossed a few grenades into Sadam's spider hole and brought back what was left to be identified by Pathologists.
3,072 posted on 06/09/2006 5:18:46 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Dear US Senators, Reps. and Mr. President: Why are y'all abetting the destruction of our culture?)
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To: StJacques

3,073 posted on 06/09/2006 5:19:35 AM PDT by petercooper (Attention Libs: Please remove "Haven't gotten Zarqawi" from DimocRAT talking points.)
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To: WSGilcrest

On the other hand, one is seldom blown to hell by a bomb without wounds here and there, including a shiner or two.


3,074 posted on 06/09/2006 5:25:34 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Dear US Senators, Reps. and Mr. President: Why are y'all abetting the destruction of our culture?)
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To: petercooper

That's a great pic. Thanks!


3,075 posted on 06/09/2006 5:38:32 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: StJacques

(BEGINS)

TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, HER ALLIES AND FRIENDS:

BULLSEYE! GOOD SHOT.

(ENDS)


3,076 posted on 06/09/2006 6:01:43 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: patriciaruth

Precisely.


3,077 posted on 06/09/2006 6:16:09 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: patriciaruth
You don't know as much about psyops as I thought you did.

I never claimed to be an expert but I do know what I see when the libs opine on this forum. Who are they dividing anyway? We've always had RINO's in the Party and we always will. There are States in which a true conservative can never be elected, at least now and it is better to have a RINO in these States then a liberal even if the only reason is it may give us control of the committees and the agenda. I believe in the adage that when your enemy is digging a hole for himself you don't take his shovel away.

In fact, the opposition is far from being composed of morons. They are running a very tidy campaign of divide and conquer the conservatives now. And the "morons" were winning last time I checked.

They're winning? By whose measure? Maybe the polls have you a bit depressed? The polls are pure crap and if you have followed politics for any length of time you would know this. In June of 2004 the LAT ran a poll asking the question of who the people thought would do a better job running the country (congress), the Democrats or Republicans. The results published showed the Democrat's favored by 19 points, a huge number. They lost seats in both Houses that year. In 1994 when the Republicans crushed the Democrats and took both Houses away from them the lib media had Dem's gaining seats. Up until almost the day before the election in the 50th District in CA the polls had Busby, the lib winning but it turns out Brilbay won by almost 10% when he consider there were 3 Rep running against 1 Dem. The American people are not nearly as dumb as you and many others make them out to be and I will be proved right again in November. Not only don't I think the Rep will lose control of the Congress but I believe they will actually gain seats in the House. The left can only demoralize you if you let them do so. The Democrat Party is nothing but an empty shell filled with individuals with no ideas and no message save that of trashing anyone that disagrees with them in any way. As each day goes by they become more and more desperate and as their desperation increases so does their hateful rhetoric. Hate has never and will never win an election for any political Party.

3,078 posted on 06/09/2006 6:38:17 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: 4butnomorethan30characters

I hope the scum had enough time to reflect on the fact he was dying and was able to feel agony such as he inflicted on others.

I swear I would donate $10,000 to anyones favorite charity if they could get me close enough to the bastard to piss on his dead body.


3,080 posted on 06/09/2006 6:42:22 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: StJacques

Now the MSM is playing up that the Zarqmeister survived the initial bombing, as though it was some kind of failure. What a bunch of pukes!


3,081 posted on 06/09/2006 7:36:57 AM PDT by glad2bdad (If you argue for your weaknesses, sure enough, they're yours.)
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To: FreeReign

Yuo are right, I stand corrected.


3,083 posted on 06/09/2006 10:31:32 AM PDT by pctech
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To: StJacques
Zarqawi lived briefly after attack

By KIM GAMEL and ROBERT BURNS, Associated Press Writers

Physical Scientist Kristi Oberbroeckling carries a bag containing three boxes of biological samples believed to be from Abu Musab al-Zarqawi or his associates to the FBI lab in Quantico, Virginia June 8, 2006. In one of the most significant developments in Iraq since the capture of Saddam Hussein in 2003, Jordanian-born Zarqawi was killed on Wednesday in a joint U-S.-Iraqi operation helped by tip-offs from Iraqis and Jordanian intelligence. REUTERS/Kevin Wolf/Pool (UNITED STATES)

FBI agents deliver a package containing three boxes of biological samples believed to be from Abu Musab al-Zarqawi or his associates to the FBI lab in Quantico, Virginia June 8, 2006. In one of the most significant developments in Iraq since the capture of Saddam Hussein in 2003, Jordanian-born Zarqawi was killed on Wednesday in a joint U-S.-Iraqi operation helped by tip-offs from Iraqis and Jordanian intelligence. REUTERS/Kevin Wolf/Pool (UNITED STATES)

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A mortally wounded Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was still alive and mumbling after American airstrikes on his hideout and tried to get off a stretcher when he became aware of U.S. troops at the scene, a top military official said Friday.

Also, U.S. troops conducted 39 raids late Thursday and early Friday based on information gleaned from searches in the hours after the al-Qaida leader's death. Fearing that insurgents will seek revenge, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki imposed driving bans in Baghdad and restive Diyala province, where the terrorist was killed.

Al-Zarqawi could barely speak when Iraqi police arrived at the scene of Wednesday's attack.

"He mumbled something, but it was indistinguishable and it was very short," U.S. military spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said at a news conference.

U.S. and Polish forces arrived intending to provide unspecified medical treatment, and al-Zarqawi was put on a stretcher, Caldwell said. The terrorist "attempted to sort of turn away off the stretcher, everybody reached to insert him back. ... He died a short time later from the wounds suffered during the airstrike.

"We did in fact see him alive," he said. "There was some sort of movement he had on the stretcher, and he did die a short time later."

Caldwell said the U.S. military was still compiling details of the airstrike, including the exact amount of time Zarqawi was alive afterward. He said an initial analysis of Zarqawi's body was done but he was not certain it constituted a full autopsy.

In an interview earlier Friday with Fox News, Caldwell was more descriptive of Zarqawi's actions before he died.

"He was conscious initially, according to the U.S. forces that physically saw him," Caldwell told Fox. "He obviously had some kind of visual recognition of who they were because he attempted to roll off the stretcher, as I am told, and get away, realizing it was U.S. military."

At the news conference, the spokesman also provided a revised death toll from the attack.

Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, had said four people, including a woman and a child, were killed with al-Zarqawi and Abu Abdul-Rahman al-Iraqi, the terrorist's spiritual consultant.

Caldwell said it now appears there was no child among those killed. He cautioned that some facts were still being sorted out but said that three women and three men, including al-Zarqawi, were killed.

Pentagon officials have refused to say whether U.S. special operations forces participated in the al-Zarqawi operation Wednesday, but a comment Friday by President Bush suggested that some of the military's most secretive units may have been involved on the ground.

Speaking to reporters, Bush mentioned that among the senior officers he called to offer congratulations for killing Zarqawi was Army Lt. Gen. Stanley McChrystal, commander of Joint Special Operations Command, whose forces include the Army's clandestine counterterrorism unit, Delta Force.

Caldwell also said U.S. forces have conducted many raids over the past two days based on intelligence gathered from the scene of Zarqawi's killing.

A targeted individual was killed and at least 25 people were captured, he said. One raid discovered small arms, ammunition and other items hidden beneath the floor of a building in the Baghdad area.

Speaking to the British Broadcasting Corp., the spokesman said troops carried out 39 raids overnight in which troops "picked up things like memory sticks, some hard drives" that would allow American forces to begin dismantling al-Zarqawi's al-Qaida in Iraq.

Those raids were based on 17 simultaneous raids U.S. troops staged Wednesday near Baqouba, the capital of Diyala province. The region is in the heartland of the Sunni Arab-led insurgency and has seen a recent rise in sectarian violence. Baqouba is 35 miles northeast of Baghdad.

He said the latest information was helping U.S. forces unravel the source of al-Qaida's weapons and financing.

As Iraqi and U.S. leaders cautioned that al-Zarqawi's death was not likely to end the insurgency, Caldwell said another foreign-born militant was poised to take over the terror network's operations.

He said Egyptian-born Abu al-Masri would likely take the reins of al-Qaida in Iraq. He said al-Masri trained in Afghanistan and arrived in Iraq in 2002 to establish an al-Qaida cell.

Muslim cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri speaks at a press conference in this Jan. 20, 1999 file photo. According to U.S. military spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, al-Masri would likely take the reins of al-Qaida in Iraq. (AP Photo/Alastair Grant, File)

The U.S. military did not further identify al-Masri and his real identity could not immediately be determined. But the Central Command has listed an Abu Ayyub al-Masri as among its most wanted al-Zarqawi associates and placed a $50,000 bounty on his head.

Al-Masri, whose name is an obvious alias meaning "father of the Egyptian," is believed to be an expert at constructing roadside bombs, the leading cause of U.S. military casualties in Iraq.

The midday driving ban in Baghdad lasted four hours. All traffic was banned in Diyala from 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. for three days starting Friday.

The Baghdad ban fell when most Iraqis attend Friday prayers. Bombers have previously targeted Shiite mosques with suicide attackers and mortars hidden in vehicles.

The bans aim "to protect mosques and prayers from any possible terrorist attacks, especially car bombs, in the wake off yesterday's event," an Iraqi government official said, referring to al-Zarqawi's death. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to media.

Al-Zarqawi, who had a $25 million bounty on his head, was killed at after an intense two-week hunt that U.S. officials said first led to his spiritual adviser and then to him.

The U.S. military had displayed images of the battered face of al-Zarqawi and reported that he was identified by fingerprints, tattoos and scars. But Caldwell said Friday that authorities made a visual identification of al-Zarqawi at the site of the airstrike.

Biological samples from his body were delivered to an FBI crime laboratory in Virginia for DNA testing. Results were expected in three days.

Violence was unabated Thursday and Friday:

_Gunmen kidnapped Muthanna al-Badri, director general of state company for oil projects, or SCOP, while he drove Thursday in his predominantly Sunni Arab neighborhood of Baghdad, ministry spokesman Assem Jihad said Friday.

_A fire fight Friday west of Baqouba killed five civilians and wounded three, and demolished five houses, according to regional authorities.

_The torso of a man wearing a military uniform was found floating in a river Friday morning near Kut, 100 miles southeast of Baghdad, a morgue official said.

_Police found five unidentified bodies late Thursday of men who had been shot in the head in eastern Baghdad.

_Gunmen opened fire on Friday's funeral procession for the brother of the governor of the northern city of Mosul. Zuhair Kashmola was killed by gunmen on Thursday.

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AP Military Writer Robert Burns contributed to this story from Washington.

3,084 posted on 06/09/2006 10:33:29 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: Severa
"As Coroner, I must aver
I thoroughly examined her.
And she's not only merely dead,
She's really, most sincerely dead."


Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I could not for the life of me catch "aver", and was stumped.
3,085 posted on 06/09/2006 11:38:42 AM PDT by NonLinear (He's dead, Jim)
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To: TexKat

That was a lot Kat, thanks for a good read.


3,086 posted on 06/09/2006 12:56:15 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: glad2bdad
"Now the MSM is playing up that the Zarqmeister survived the initial bombing, as though it was some kind of failure. What a bunch of pukes!"

My take on all of that is that the MSM may be trying to raise the question as to whether Zarqawi may have been "finished off" while in custody.

You can read the quote I'm about to post at this link.

". . . Asked whether al-Zarqawi was shot after U.S. ground troops arrived at the scene of the airstrike, Caldwell said he could not give a definitive answer based on what he had read in the latest official U.S. military report on the event. 'I’ll go back and specifically ask that,' he said. 'But no, there was nothing in the report that said he had received any wounds from some kind of weapons system like that.' . . ."

I'm waiting for the headline in the New York Times: "Was Zarqawi Executed by American Forces"?

Mark my words, they're fishing for just this kind of story right now.
3,087 posted on 06/09/2006 1:04:53 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: Eagles Talon IV; Jim Robinson; kattracks; DrDeb; Miss Marple; mass55th; jtill; Abigail Adams
You're right that not everyone here is up to dealing every day with an onslaught of viciousness, rudeness, lies, distortions, and slander.

I grant you many of those people are our women on the right who are fine and courageous ladies, who have been raised with skills for keeping families together and polite and wise discourse with friends, but not for constant war of morale browbeating such as we often see here now. They are ones who generally help get out the vote, go door to door with literature and help raise enthusiasm for candidates.

These ladies have shied away from their former frequent contact with FR and some are just less frequently on the threads. That is the context in which I say that the harsh language and rudeness and slanders against them (the division in the right egged on by undercover lefties) have helped gain a win for the forces on the left.

It is for this reason that I don't want this forum open to more left wingers than are already here, as you have proposed.

You have the competitive edge of my husband. Many men are psychologically happy to do battle. Women often only do battle in extremis, when they believe their homes and families are at stake. I am here because I believe my country and the ideals which created my country, my home essentially, is at stake, and that I owe it to the children of this country to fight for its survival.

I happen to agree with you about RINO's. In blue states it is better to have a weak vote to organize the Senate than no vote, a weak vote to vote for cloture of a filibuster against judges and other legislation than no vote. I'm a realist when it comes to strategy, though an idealist when it comes to ultimate goals.

But I disagree with you about opening up this forum. You might enjoy the wholesale slaughter of wielding a free swinging sword, but I have seen what happens on other websites. They FLOOD the site with multiple repetitive posts, pictures, filth, whatever they can, to DROWN their opposition. There is no way anyone coming to the site can wade through all the blood and feces to find the intelligent discourse and to organize together for counter protest actions such as FReeps.

Such an action would completely destroy FR as a useful tool in advancing our right wing causes. There are several types of discourse that are common at FR now which have crippled its usefulness.

1. Ad hominems. Especially the type implying the person is a child or has a low IQ or has less academic learning and is hence stupid and inferior, thus their arguments are stupid and inferior and not worth discussing.

2. Slander. Calling anyone that disagrees with them a RINO, a neocon, Bushbots, cult of personality, etc. so that discussing alternative means to an end is not acceptable, and dismissed out of hand. This includes cutting off discussing the belief that loyalty to the commander in chief in time of war and presenting a common front to the enemy leads to better end results than letting the enemy know the leader has serious dissension in the ranks which can be exploited.

3. Holier than thou. No discussion is needed because only agreement with their point of view constitutes pure, righteous conservatism, patriotism, Americanism, Christianity, etc.

4. Rudeness and crudeness and mild profanity. for example: "Did someone pee in your cereal this morning?" The mild profanities allowed here are hard on our most religious members. A lot of people don't seem to realize that "OMG" and "Jeez" are profanities that are offensive to religious people.

It would greatly aid getting many fine conservative ladies back into active participation here if ad hominems were banned.

I'm not sure how to deal with the other types of arguments that aren't arguments but simply meant to chill and end discussion, such as slander, holier than thou accusations, and the rude and crude remarks.

The mild profanities are mostly lack of sensitivity about other peoples deeply held beliefs about reverence toward our Creator and Savior. The orthodox Jews probably find it very hard sledding here because of this.

Some have proposed having a sort of "Politics Polite" type of thread here that is protected from ad hominems and the other types of statements meant to chill or end discussion. A thread where one could learn ancillary information about the issues of the day through discussion and information sharing, and also politely discuss alternative strategies and philosophies about how to achieve conservative goals.

I don't have the time or energy to run one myself, but I would love to visit one regularly.

I really hate having to deal with people who ask me if someone peed in my cereal this morning.

3,088 posted on 06/09/2006 4:26:52 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: patriciaruth
Agree. I am here less than I used to be. I know what I think, and am not ashamed of it. Howeer, on some threads my appearance is cause for multiple insult posts, and none of it is edifying to the lurkers.

I don't care if people think my opinion is wrong. I DO care when they sy that my opinion is wrong because I am a groupie, paid off by the RNC, etc.

I do think the motive for some of these people is to dive people away from FR, so I try to make inteligent and non-inflammatory posts. I do't know if I am effective, but that is what I attempt.

3,089 posted on 06/09/2006 4:32:42 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: patriciaruth; Miss Marple; Jim Robinson

Excellent post patricia . . . I couldn't agree more!

BTW: On one of the threads Thursday, a Freeper posted several comments from DU and Koz (for our edification) . . . One or more of these comments revealed that posters at DU were signing up and posting at FR for one reason: to disrupt and demoralize the Repubican base in advance of the November elections -- a tactic that MANY of us had suspicioned for quite awhile!


3,090 posted on 06/09/2006 5:25:34 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: Jim Robinson
Get off the forum you big dope!

Yep.

3,091 posted on 06/09/2006 6:09:20 PM PDT by vox_freedom (Fear no evils)
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To: TexKat
Muslim cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri speaks at a press conference in this Jan. 20, 1999 file photo. According to U.S. military spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, al-Masri would likely take the reins of al-Qaida in Iraq. (AP Photo/Alastair Grant, File)

Correction: The picture is for Abu Hamza Al Masri, a cleric who resides (or used to) in London, England.

According to Maj. General Caldwell on TV today, the one who may take over in Iraq is Abu Ayyoub Al Masri

3,092 posted on 06/09/2006 7:29:07 PM PDT by melancholy (Now that we killed Abu Musaab Al Zarqawi, we are forced to listen to Abu Joe Al Murthawi.)
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To: StJacques
He's DEAD isn't that what counts?

How low will the media go in denying this magnificent victory?
3,093 posted on 06/09/2006 7:56:19 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you!


3,094 posted on 06/09/2006 8:53:13 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Please pray for Logan's Mommy and LadyX!!!)
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To: armchairman

Once upon a time there was a chief angel.

Said chief angel decided he could become as God.

God had other ideas and plans.

Said chief angel has been desperately trying to throw whatever dust he can in God's face by destroying as many of God's favorite creatures--man--as he can get away with.

This era is the closing set of scenes of said play.

Which part of evil do you not understand?


3,095 posted on 06/10/2006 3:52:55 AM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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To: Postman

Why are people who think as you do allowed to breathe????
- - - -

To make useless idiots look good?

Good question.


3,096 posted on 06/10/2006 3:54:39 AM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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To: Quix

armchairman was banned at post 2501. I love that post.


3,097 posted on 06/10/2006 7:09:38 AM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: patriciaruth
Thanks for your input on opening the forum to the loony left.

My experience with these mostly indoctrinated one trick ponies is that they go away quickly when they are held up for ridicule for their comments and positions. This is so very easy to do since they have no independent thought process of their own but rather depend on input from those they worship in the Party. These come in the form of the talking points they get religiously from the wacko lefty web sites. Really it takes little effort to expose the total lack of logic and consistency in almost everything they say. Just yesterday I was discussing with a liberal the past election cycles for president and made the point that Bush received more votes in 200 and 2004 then Clinton did in 2002 and 2006 and in fact Bush's lowest total exceeded Clintons highest. This man then blustered that Clinton SWAMPED Bush where it counted most, in the electoral vote. When I then said he was correct and asked if that was so important then why are some Democrats suggesting that the electoral college should be done away with and if it is so important why, in 2000 were the libs all screaming that Gore was the REAL winner because he won the popular vote?

The man looked at me for a few seconds and all he could manage to say was, and this is an exact quote, "It's not the same now". When I asked him to explain himself he sort of waved his hand and said "What's the point, you just don't understand"

These people are fools and it takes little to expose them and send them running for cover. The secret is not to ever get angry at them but to calmly ask for explanations to there absurd claims. Introducing facts and truth into a discussion with a liberal will in every instance confuse and befuddle them.
3,098 posted on 06/10/2006 7:38:44 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Eagles Talon IV

I tried the calm reasonable discussion of fact and logic and had a couple great thinkers and fact finders along with me and a cadre of nice people at SpeakOut.com.

When the fascist libs realized they were losing the war of words they just kept posting trash to fill all the space so people coming to the forum couldn't find our calm and reasonable discussions. Then they went on to post multiple pictures of some unfortunate's genitalia.

By then most of the decent folk had left. And the website dissolved.

You underestimate the lengths these fascist liberals will go to assert total control if given an inch or to destroy something if they don't have total control. You also overestimate the stomach most people here have for a knife fight.

I strongly believe FR has been allowing too many nasty comments and too much mudslinging here for its own good, and letting libs in deliberately would destroy this place like it destroyed Speakout.com.


3,099 posted on 06/10/2006 8:25:25 AM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: patriciaruth
In my opinion you mistake a person unwillingness to engage the loony libs with an acquiescence to their mad world view. This is not the case. The wackos do not follow normal Americans into the voting booth. The lefty extremists have done far more to alienate Americans then they have to attract them over to their side.

Just read your 2nd paragraph over and you will see that you have made my point. They live an existence of lies and become unhinged when faced with the truth.

3,100 posted on 06/10/2006 8:38:03 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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