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Note the flying lessons...!

Good work by NZ Law Enforcement, should send a clear message of NZ's stance on WOT.

Too bad we didn't deport this creep to GITMO.

1 posted on 06/09/2006 5:42:38 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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To: DieHard the Hunter

They should've deported him to a 6-foot open grave.


2 posted on 06/09/2006 5:54:22 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I KNOW SOME BAPTISTS WHO WOULD GLADLY TAKE HIM!


3 posted on 06/09/2006 5:58:19 PM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I thought about you when I heard this guy was deported from NZ.


6 posted on 06/09/2006 8:30:03 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger ("Good guys" aren't always "nice guys".)
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To: Cindy; Grampa Dave; Travis McGee; Squantos

another wannabe hijacker


7 posted on 06/09/2006 11:31:48 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Hi DieHard the Hunter.
Thanks for starting this thread.
Updates (if any) are appreciated.


9 posted on 06/09/2006 11:41:16 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: DieHard the Hunter
More:

Club Questioned over terror suspect


Source: Radio New Zealand
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/411749/746452

Jun 10, 2006

An aero club used by a man linked to the September 11 attacks says police alerted them to their investigation about a month ago.

The government says Rayed Mohammed Abdullah Ali was deported at the end of last month because he posed a threat to national security.

The US government says Ali trained as a pilot with the man believed to have flown a passenger jet into the Pentagon.

Since arriving in New Zealand in February, Ali had been flying light aircraft at the Manawatu aero club.

The club says it questioned Ali about his background, but had no reason to believe he had fundamentalist views.
The Yemeni man was living in Palmerston North.

A US report says Ali trained as a pilot in Phoenix, Arizona, with the man believed to have flown an airplane into the Pentagon, during the 2001 attacks.

The 9-11 Commission Report says Ali reportedly gave extremist speeches at the Islamic Cultural Centre in Phoenix.

On May 29, New Zealand police and immigration officials raided his house in Palmerston North and sent him back to Saudi Arabia the next day.

Immigration Minister David Cunliffe says Ali posed a threat to national security because of his direct association with those responsible for the September 11, 2001 attacks and the nature of his activities in New Zealand.

Cunliffe says Ali undertook English language training in Auckland before moving to Palmerston North to build up his flying hours.

Ali came to New Zealand in February.

Cunliffe says the man's identity only became apparent after he arrived in New Zealand because he used a variation of his name when applying for entry.
19 posted on 06/10/2006 5:02:51 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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More... Source: Sunday Star Times (NZ)
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3696966a10,00.html

How did we let 9/11 suspect in?


11 June 2006
By STAFF REPORTERS

Border controls to detect terrorist threats failed when a Saudi Arabian pilot linked with the 9/11 hijackers was able to enter New Zealand unquestioned and live here for four months, a terrorism expert says.

Auckland University political studies lecturer Dr Paul Buchanan said the Security Intelligence Service was "clueless" about Rayed Mohammed Abdullah Ali's arrival and the public needed to be reassured that security systems were adequate after his deportation.

He is questioning why police, immigration or the SIS did not flag the potential risk of Rayed, 28, who was deported 12 days ago as a threat to national security.

Rayed flatted with Hani Hanjour, the pilot who flew American Airlines Flight 77 into Washington DC's Pentagon building on September 11, 2001, and is named 13 times in a 9/11 Commission report. He was also on an FBI suspect list developed after the US attacks.

Rayed was admitted to New Zealand in February on a student visa and studied at an English language school in Auckland before shifting to Palmerston North in April where he joined the Manawatu Aero Club to increase his flying hours.

The Sunday Star-Times understands SIS agents questioned flying school staff around the country about six weeks ago and police visited Manawatu Aero Club three weeks ago to tell it Rayed was under surveillance.

Staff have been ordered not to disclose further details.

A copy of Rayed's passport, shown to the Star-Times yesterday, records his surname as Raed - different to that on the FBI lists.

Immigration Minister David Cunliffe said that was why immigration officials had not picked up Rayed as a threat. Cunliffe said Rayed was considered a threat to national security on three grounds - his direct association with those responsible for the 9/11 attacks, the nature of his activities in the US prior to and at that time, and the nature of his activities in New Zealand.

Rayed was granted a student visa in Dubai.

Manawatu Aero Club president Grant Hadfield said they had conducted background checks on Rayed when he approached the club, as the Civil Aviation Authority had recommended flight schools do on foreigners after the 9/11 attacks. The checks included verifying details in his logbook and asking him about his beliefs, but not doing an internet search on his name. A Google search quickly reveals Rayed's background.

Rayed lived with an Indian and a Chinese flatmate in a modest unit in Cook St, Palmerston North, where neighbours yesterday described him as "an average guy".

His flight instructor and landlord Captain Ravindra Singh said Rayed, a Yemeni citizen, had found it difficult to enrol in an aviation course here. Singh said people had been suspicious of Rayed because of his ethnicity, but he had found him "genuine" - despite the fact he owed Singh $1200 in rent and flying fees. Singh was forced to hand Rayed's flying logbook to police after Rayed was deported.

Rayed was arrested and escorted back to Saudi Arabia under section 72 of the Immigration Act, which requires sign-off by the governor-general and has been used only once before, to expel a Russian spy in 1991.

Buchanan said the vetting of Rayed's application for a student visa had clearly failed to raise the alert about his past acquaintances.

"The question then is how did they find out? Was it internal? The New Zealand police? Immigration? And where was the SIS? They were entirely clueless when he arrived."

Cunliffe refused to go into details, saying such matters were "operational". He said he had full confidence the system worked effectively to catch Rayed who had been a genuine threat to national security.

"The government does not use the section 72 removal procedure lightly. It involves the highest level of government."

There is no appeal under section 72, though Cunliffe said Rayed could have claimed refugee status to delay deportation, but had not.

Cunliffe would not say when the alert was raised, but confirmed Rayed was under surveillance for some time before his deportation.

He also refused to comment on whether Rayed had been on his own in New Zealand or whether there were ongoing inquiries into his presence here.

Buchanan said his hunch was that Rayed would have been up to no good in New Zealand and that the authorities had been alerted by a member of the public or through monitoring of mosques.

"Maybe they were alerted by an amateur, someone at the flight school perhaps, and that is embarrassing."

New Zealand had a large number of flight schools with loose vetting that could make it an attractive place to train for a terrorist attack elsewhere, he said.
20 posted on 06/10/2006 5:12:04 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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From today's NZ Herald here: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10394658

Expelled Saudi knew two hijackers

Saturday August 5, 2006
By Geoff Cumming

The Saudi student expelled from New Zealand as a national security threat knew not one but two September 11 hijackers, according to Government papers.

An Immigration Service analysis mentions a "direct association" between the student, Rayed Mohammed Abdullah Ali, and Nawaf al-Hazmi, a hijacker on American Airlines Flight 77, which flew into the Pentagon...


22 posted on 08/04/2006 4:36:55 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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