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Cousins charged with felonies in Holy Hill vandalism (older one expresses no regrets)
Journal Sentinel ^ | June 9, 2006 | TOM KERTSCHER

Posted on 06/10/2006 5:22:10 AM PDT by NYer


David Groth


Tyler Groth

West Bend - Two cousins were charged with a felony crime each on Friday in the desecration of Holy Hill and, according to authorities, the older of the two admitted what he did but had no regrets.

Tyler B. Groth, 21, of Neosho and David J. Groth, 17, of Hartford each face up to 3 1/2 years in prison and a $10,000 fine if convicted of criminal damage to religious property.

Tyler Groth told investigators that he and his cousin used red spray paint in a spree of vandalism at Holy Hill on Tuesday, according to a criminal complaint. The investigators then asked Groth, according to Washington County Sheriff Brian Rahn, "Do you feel sorry for what you did?"

"No," the sheriff quoted Groth as saying. "It was just something I did. I just wanted to have some fun."

Tyler Groth was arrested on the Holy Hill grounds on Wednesday, as he and his cousin showed four friends the vandalism from the night before, according to a deputy's report. David Groth ran off that night but was arrested Friday morning, hiding behind a bed in a friend's home in Richfield, Rahn said. David Groth has been charged as an adult.

Unlike his older cousin, David Groth refused to speak to investigators, according to Rahn. No physical evidence has been recovered, he said.

Asked why he committed the vandalism, Tyler Groth said in an interview broadcast on WTMJ-TV (Channel 4): "I'm a punk. It's what I do."

Tuesday's date was 6-6-06. In the Bible, the New Testament's Book of Revelation says triple sixes are the mark of the Antichrist.

According to the criminal complaint, Tyler Groth said he and his cousin decided to spray paint walls, statues and other parts of Holy Hill because it was "Satan's birthday."

Tyler Groth told investigators that he painted "Hail Satin," a misspelling of Satan, and a devil's face in different places and that he sprayed paint on a statue of Jesus, according to the complaint. Tyler Groth said David Groth painted "I'm glad they killed Jesus" and "Hell Will Rule" in various places on the property, the complaint says.

Repair work continues

Father Cyril Guise, director of the shrine - formally known as the National Shrine of Mary, Help of Christians - said in an interview that no estimate of the amount of damage had been made but that a contractor's crew of about five had been working steadily since Wednesday.

"It's a gentle procedure so they don't destroy the statues," he said.

Guise said worshippers handed him donations to help pay for the repairs after Mass on Friday, as many others had done for the past three days. He called the vandalism "obscene," a description echoed by Milwaukee Archbishop Timothy Dolan, who announced Friday he would say a Mass of Reparation at Holy Hill at 4:30 p.m. today.

The cousins made their initial appearance on the charges in Washington County Circuit Court Friday. They told Judge Patrick Faragher that they understood the charges but made no other comments.

District Attorney Todd Martens asked the judge to set bail for both, saying the vandalism was "an affront to the faith of tens of thousands of Washington County residents." But public defender Paul Czisny argued that "this is not a day to punish."

Faragher said he would release Tyler Groth on a signature bond while the case is pending. He said the vandalism is a "very terrible thing" but comparable to "tagging" or graffiti, and "not an assault on the Catholic Church." He also noted that Tyler Groth, who lives with his parents and works at a siding company, had no prior record.

Faragher set $1,000 cash bail for David Groth, a Hartford Union High School student who lives with his parents and is not employed.

Both defendants are scheduled to return to court Wednesday.

Rahn said the Holy Hill vandalism appeared to be a prank rather than part of any occult activity. He said he thinks the cousins returned with friends to Holy Hill on the day after the vandalism to show off.

"In their minds, they were proud of what they had done," Rahn said.


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70599Vandalism at Holy Hill

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Vandals spray painted Hell on a sign at Holy Hill in the Town of Erin. Vandals struck either late Tuesday or early Wednesday.

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Red spray paint covers Jesus Christ in the 12th Station of the Cross on Wednesday at Holy Hill. At another station, the eyes on the statues of Christs mother, Mary, and two other figures were painted red.

Quotable

I was just angry that someone would do that. After Mass, I settled down.

- Richard Kontny,
Neosho man who discovered vandalism at Holy Hill

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Efrain Martinez (right) and Brad Crowley of Servpro sandblast graffiti off an entrance to the church at Holy Hill. The total cost to remove the vandalism at more than a dozen sites at the shrine was unknown Wednesday.

Vandalized Shrine

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1 posted on 06/10/2006 5:22:14 AM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
Milwaukee Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan will celebrate Mass at the National Shrine of Mary, Help of Christians, on Saturday, June 10, at 4:30 p.m.

Archbishop Dolan's visit comes days after the historic grounds of the shrine were desecrated. Restorative work has begun on the vandalized areas.

"With the rest of our community, I am shocked and saddened by the outrageous acts of sacrilege at the Shrine of Our Lady Help of Christians on Holy Hill," said Archbishop Dolan. "For over a century, Holy Hill has been a sacred site for prayer, reconciliation, love, mercy, healing, and the lifting up of mind and heart to Jesus through His Mother. Tuesday it became for a moment a site of hate, evil, sin, and darkness. This shows us that bigotry, hatred of Christ and His Church, sin, and Satan are still very much with us. It also reminds us that 'the gates of hell will not prevail.' I will go on pilgrimage Saturday afternoon and offer Mass in reparation for these offenses, and pray in gratitude for the holiness and grace that will continue to flow from this Holy Hill from Jesus and Mary."

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2 posted on 06/10/2006 5:24:41 AM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer
Tyler Groth was arrested on the Holy Hill grounds on Wednesday, as he and his cousin showed four friends the vandalism from the night before

Of course. Evil and stupid. I hope they go to jail for as long as possible. These are the kind of people who might do anything.

3 posted on 06/10/2006 5:25:32 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I am a daughter of God, a child of the King, a holy fire burning with His love.)
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To: NYer

"Hail Satin"

Maybe he wants to be a gay "interior decorator".


4 posted on 06/10/2006 5:26:48 AM PDT by garyhope
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To: Tax-chick
Evil and stupid.

Dumb and even dumber ... returning to the scene of the crime to boast. They should be forced to clean up their mess.

5 posted on 06/10/2006 5:46:52 AM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer

They have "the look." They're better off in jail, imo. Unfortunately, they'll probably walk because of their age, without even having to clean.


6 posted on 06/10/2006 5:50:50 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I am a daughter of God, a child of the King, a holy fire burning with His love.)
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To: garyhope
"I'm a punk. It's what I do."

Sounds like a lost cause who needs to be dumped amid the general population at the nearest prison before he decides to do something else.
7 posted on 06/10/2006 5:57:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: NYer

It would be nice if, somewhere in the story, we could be told where this is.


8 posted on 06/10/2006 5:59:13 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: raybbr

The Map shows it just north of Milwaukee.


9 posted on 06/10/2006 6:01:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: NYer

Normally yes, they should have been forced to clean it up.

But in this case, they would have likely caused even more damage trying to clean up.

As far as not being sorry, that should cost him dearly.


10 posted on 06/10/2006 6:02:03 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: NYer
Appropriate sentences:

Appropriate sentences:

6 months for older punk, 2 months for younger.
Personally clean up the results of their vandalism. If already done by others, then other clean up work.
Costs to be borne by these two, or in the case of the juvenile, their parents (under some state law, this can be forced.)
No drivers licenses for 5 years, except to and from work. (Let them walk and remember)
11 posted on 06/10/2006 6:02:54 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: NYer

Oh, charged as adult. 6 months each.


12 posted on 06/10/2006 6:04:11 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: raybbr

It's in southeastern Wisconsin, just outside of Milwaukee.


13 posted on 06/10/2006 6:04:33 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

I have the feeling that we'll see these fine boys' pictures in the newspaper again someday.

I pity their future victims.

Is flogging really and truly a cruel and unusual punishment? I'm having some doubts.


14 posted on 06/10/2006 6:07:36 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Join me! Every night I pray for Global Warming . (And I think it's beginning to work.))
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To: NYer

For those of you who aren't in or from the Milwaukee, WI area, Holy Hill is an uniquely beautiful Catholic shrine and cathedral located about 35 miles north of Milwaukee on top of a 1,300 foot hill in the Northern Kettle Moraine State Forest area. It's so striking beautiful that it attracts tourists and Christians of all denominations, including many Protestants. What was done was a horrible desecration. Even those of us who aren't Catholics should give our Catholic friends our sincere condolences for what happened.


15 posted on 06/10/2006 6:07:54 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: garyhope
"Hail Satin"

Stupid is as stupid does.
16 posted on 06/10/2006 6:08:07 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: raybbr

Please see my post, no. 15. I lived in the Milwaukee area for almost 13 years before I moved to Knoxville, TN about 18 years ago.


17 posted on 06/10/2006 6:10:47 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: dighton; Constitution Day

"Hail Satin" alert. :D


18 posted on 06/10/2006 6:14:27 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: NYer

From the look of these two, they are cousins, brothers, uncles and nephews, simultaneously.


19 posted on 06/10/2006 6:17:43 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
I have the feeling that we'll see these fine boys' pictures in the newspaper again someday.

I suspect you're right. I once had a cousin who did the same sort of crap in his youth. He never showed any remorse and the judges never showed any sense. My cousin is gone now. He broke into an old mans house and beat him to death with a baseball bat in his bed. My cousin was sentenced to natural life without parole.
20 posted on 06/10/2006 6:19:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: NYer

It is obvious that they intentionally picked that particular site.

Nasty young men who will probably move on to bigger and better ways of nastiness as the years go by.

They will probably get off with a slap on the wrist and community time.


21 posted on 06/10/2006 6:24:28 AM PDT by Dustbunny (Amazing Grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me)
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To: cripplecreek

I had a cousin like that too - always putting kittens in the freezer etc.

Setting the family car on fire, later wrecking cars (one wreck killed his "fiancee") until one day he wrecked his last car - killed him (not a mark on him) and everyone else walked away.


22 posted on 06/10/2006 6:24:40 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: cripplecreek

"I'm a punk. It's what I do."

He should be forced to carry a sign around with this on it.

This should also be inscribed on his head stone when he dies. With his attitude that shouldn't be to far away.


23 posted on 06/10/2006 6:25:01 AM PDT by babydoll22 (The facts ma'am, just the facts. I don't give a s**t how you feel.)
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To: libstripper
It's so striking beautiful that it attracts tourists and Christians of all denominations, including many Protestants.

What? "Holy Hill - It's not just for Catholics anymore?" I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean.

24 posted on 06/10/2006 6:32:21 AM PDT by brewcrew
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To: babydoll22; Lucretia Borgia
Lucretia: ex-Milwaukee Catholic bump.

"I'm a punk. It's what I do."

I'm thinking tattooing it on his forehead might be better. Only because branding might be considered cruel and unusual.

25 posted on 06/10/2006 7:01:09 AM PDT by brbethke
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To: NYer; Watery Tart; KRAUTMAN; reformedliberal; Mygirlsmom; codercpc; s2baccha; ozaukeemom; PjhCPA; ..

"Update on Holy Hill Vandals - w/Pictures" Ping!

Thanks, NYer! :)


26 posted on 06/10/2006 7:03:46 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: NYer
"Tyler Groth told investigators that he painted "Hail Satin,"...."

Apparently a Moody Blues fan and 'Will and Grace' watcher.

Seriously, though, I hope the sentence for these two is heavy--like having to clean the grafitti off of every bridge in Milwaukee, and the sentence is not served until every trace of it is gone (pretty much a life sentence, lol).

27 posted on 06/10/2006 7:13:29 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: raybbr

It's in a little town called Erin, just outside of Hartford, which is a little north of Milwaukee. Nice, peaceful, rural area, near the Kettle Morain (I think). You can see Holy Hill from miles away in several directions because it is on a very high hill.


28 posted on 06/10/2006 7:17:46 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: hellinahandcart; Ryan Spock; TheMom; TChris; Xenalyte; Semper Vigilantis; georgiadevildog; ...
"Hail Satin" alert. :-D

Another 6/6/06 Typso event. The Bad Guy's followers seem to include a significant percentage of the hawg-stupid population.

On a more serious note, if you look in the eyes of the perps, you're looking at evil. This is not like painting "Lobos Rule!" on a retaining wall, in spite of the lawyer's contention that it's simple grafitti.

29 posted on 06/10/2006 8:07:15 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I am a daughter of God, a child of the King, a holy fire burning with His love.)
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To: NYer

"Tyler Groth told investigators that he painted "Hail Satin," a misspelling of Satan..."

Good thing they didn't worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster; think of how badly these morons would have mis-spelled that?


30 posted on 06/10/2006 8:11:47 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: PLMerite

I'd have given him a "No, You're Homophones!" ping if he'd painted, "Hale Satin."


31 posted on 06/10/2006 8:13:42 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I am a daughter of God, a child of the King, a holy fire burning with His love.)
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To: NYer
Nip it! Nip it in the bud!


32 posted on 06/10/2006 8:17:04 AM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: NYer
It's bad enough what these two morons did, but they're just dumb thugs, what's Judge Faragher's excuse?

Faragher said he would release Tyler Groth on a signature bond while the case is pending. He said the vandalism is a "very terrible thing" but comparable to "tagging" or graffiti, and "not an assault on the Catholic Church." He also noted that Tyler Groth, who lives with his parents and works at a siding company, had no prior record.

Would he say the same thing if it were a mosque or synagogue or is it only open season on Christian property?
33 posted on 06/10/2006 8:24:23 AM PDT by digitalbrownshirt (http://digitalbrownshirt.blogspot.com)
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To: NYer

These Satanists could not have picked a better county for their religious desecration spree. If the DA holds out and takes this case to trial, justice will be had. Washington County is probably the best area in the state to get a tough, no nonsense jury. I am confident that if hanging were a sentencing option, these "punks" would swing.


34 posted on 06/10/2006 8:25:30 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Tax-chick

The judge calls it simple grafitti too. More proof that a black robe doesn't mean anything.


35 posted on 06/10/2006 8:26:55 AM PDT by digitalbrownshirt (http://digitalbrownshirt.blogspot.com)
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To: Tax-chick

And please note, that the longest word in an anagram of their names (Tyler B. Groth David J. Groth) is....


troglodyte


36 posted on 06/10/2006 8:27:32 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = begin with the end in mind)
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To: bwteim

LOL!


37 posted on 06/10/2006 8:31:31 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I am a daughter of God, a child of the King, a holy fire burning with His love.)
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To: digitalbrownshirt

You're right - I mixed up the judge's name with the public defender's in the article.


38 posted on 06/10/2006 8:33:01 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I am a daughter of God, a child of the King, a holy fire burning with His love.)
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To: NYer

Tyler looks real intelligent!


39 posted on 06/10/2006 8:34:04 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: Fruitbat

Like you could look in his eyes and straight out his ears!


40 posted on 06/10/2006 8:36:07 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I am a daughter of God, a child of the King, a holy fire burning with His love.)
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To: NYer


41 posted on 06/10/2006 8:36:24 AM PDT by LouD
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To: LouD

Heh-heh!

Yeah! Yeah!


42 posted on 06/10/2006 8:39:10 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: hellinahandcart; Constitution Day; NYer; aculeus; Senator Bedfellow; MississippiDeltaDawg; ...
Grothic satinists, meet realnotideal.

“And incase he hasn't noticed the Satin is running things not him. But God has allowed him to be spared because only God loves him and God wants to show him a better way and God want to break the stronghold satin has on his life.”

43 posted on 06/10/2006 8:40:20 AM PDT by dighton
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To: NYer
Asked why he committed the vandalism, Tyler Groth said in an interview broadcast on WTMJ-TV (Channel 4): "I'm a punk. It's what I do."

Seems as if Tyler had quite the life. Let me guess, a room full of "Nine Inch Nails," "Marylin Manson," and "Eminem" CDs, MTV on 24/7, and a regular poster at DU.

Did this deviant have a job? Sounds like someone needs a life.

44 posted on 06/10/2006 8:45:42 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: dighton

ROFL, I missed that one.


45 posted on 06/10/2006 8:45:43 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: LouD; Tax-chick
The guy on top in your photos of Satan's acolytes looks like he was used as a model for the cover of Streiber's Communion book.




46 posted on 06/10/2006 8:45:44 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = begin with the end in mind)
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To: NYer; dighton; Tax-chick; Constitution Day; Tijeras_Slim; Petronski

HAIL SATIN!

47 posted on 06/10/2006 8:48:45 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: NYer

If I said what I wanted to, I'd be banned.

I can't even begin to tell you how this breaks my heart, as I've been to Holy Hill many, many times. I hope they throw the book at these two POS's. And I pray for their conversions.


48 posted on 06/10/2006 8:59:12 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: bwteim

LOL!


49 posted on 06/10/2006 9:02:50 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I am a daughter of God, a child of the King, a holy fire burning with His love.)
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To: NYer
"I'm glad they killed Jesus"

Skulls full of mush. Prayerfuly, one day they will learn.

50 posted on 06/10/2006 9:08:46 AM PDT by oyez (Appeasement is insanity)
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