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Jeans that look even better on the floor (Euros using hard-core porn for clothing catalog)
Mass Live ^ | 6/8/06 | JASON FEIFER

Posted on 06/10/2006 3:57:16 PM PDT by Yossarian

Jeans that look even better on the floor

Sex sells. We get it. But Shaï is taking that adage to a whole new level. JASON FEIFER finds a catalog that makes Abercrombie look tame.

June 8, 2006
By JASON FEIFER
asap

For a clothing company, Shaï's models don't stay dressed very long.

Instead, the French company's online summer catalog displays the clothing in action, and inaction. In three videos, shirts are quickly peeled off, pants are yanked down, and the models do what naked people do best.

No question about it, this is porn -- slick, graphic and heavy on close-ups. But don't fret, shoppers: The videos easily pause to display product information.

Clothing companies such as Abercrombie & Fitch and American Apparel have taken heat for sexy advertising, but they look downright G-Rated next to the Paris-based Shaï. In an attempt to boost its name, the four-year-old urban apparel business took a trend to the extreme, making explicit what is often so implicit in fashion advertising.

Its catalog has become a predictable Internet success, with about 1.5 million visitors since it was launched on March 20. Its message boards are filled with viewers' praise and scorn.

But according to the advertising agency behind it, the catalogs and the company were never really about sex.

"What we're trying to do is to communicate to people that porn is not a taboo anymore, and porn is entertaining," said Damon Crépin-Burr, creative director for the Paris-based advertising agency agence7seven. "So, we entertain them. And we say, when you look at porn, there's clothes everywhere."

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HERE WE ARE NOW, ENTERTAIN US

Clothing catalogs traditionally relied on consumer desires, said Crépin-Burr: A person saw an attractive model wearing a certain outfit, and would buy it in hopes of looking like the model.

But today's consumers don't think like that, he said. They want to be engaged, not lured.

That's a common attitude among marketers, particularly in an increasingly cluttered media landscape, according to Abbey Klaassen, media reporter for the industry publication Advertising Age. Some of the most successful ads now are greatly entertaining but have little or nothing to do with the product they promote, she said.

"We are in this age where we're bombarded with lots of commercial messages," she said, "so you see a lot of advertisers to try to break out and stand out with something that is so unusual or controversial that people will seek it out."

On the Internet, marketers have become more willing to take those risks, she said. Their reward can be great: a viral campaign that consumers pass along to each other, resulting in cheap, self-perpetuating exposure.

Burger King accomplished that in 2004 with subservientchicken.com, a Web site featuring an interactive actor in a chicken outfit. More recently, clothing designer Mark Ecko did it with a video that appeared to show him graffiti-tagging Air Force One.

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WHO'S BUYING IT?

In using sex so explicitly, Shaï is hoping for the same thing: more bang for their buck, so to speak.

But Shaï's catalog isn't indicative of the fashion world, which is still far from using sex so overtly, according to Loretta Volpe, professor of marketing communications at the Fashion Institute of Technology in New York. That's especially true in America, because the country is less tolerant of risqué content that's common in Europe, she said.

Even at American Apparel, a Los Angeles-based clothing company known for raw, sexual ads, Shaï's approach is too much. Senior content advisor Alexandra Spunt said her company's ads try to convey a sense of intimacy, and that's not possible with slick pornography.

Not to mention, she said, there's value in keeping the models clothed -- and not just because the company is trying to sell product.

"I think anyone will admit that there's something exciting to leaving part of it up to your imagination, just in everyday life and attraction," she said. "So there's something very different between seeing someone completely revealed and seeing someone clothed or partially clothed. In a way, that can be sexier."

American advertising may not always be so different from Europe's, though. Volpe said that as the Internet gives advertising a worldwide reach, European attitudes will become more influential.

But by then, Shai will likely be out of the sex business. The summer catalog was only the opening salvo in what Crépin-Burr said will be a long, diverse campaign to win customers through provocative entertainment.

Crépin-Burr wouldn't hint at what's ahead. But next time, he said, the clothes are staying on.

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asap contributor Jason Feifer is a freelance writer.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: france; porn; shai
OK, I'm not a prude, and seeing the basics of biology doesn't bother me one bit. But this latest datapoint in defining deviancy down is ridiculous. Thanks, France!

The European attitude - being so blasé about sex - has gotten them to this point where their sex (at least as shown in the web-catalog) is as exciting as arranging mannequins in a store display window. No, I'd rather stick to the American way: showing an upright and - to some - uptight face to the world, but behind closed doors sporting a devilish grin, and getting deep down & dirty.

(And no, I'm not going to post the URL to the on-line catalog. If you're so inclined to see what the fuss is about, I'm sure you know how to google up the site.)

1 posted on 06/10/2006 3:57:20 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Yossarian
"Why should you buy our clothes? Well, think of the fun you'll have when you're not wearing them!"

Europeans are a joke.

2 posted on 06/10/2006 4:01:45 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Without a monkey, "You are nothing, absolutely zero. Absolutely nothing.")
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To: Yossarian

few things are less attractive than a slut.


3 posted on 06/10/2006 4:04:27 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (screw the media.)
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To: Yossarian

Ever enjoy a commercial a lot, but can't remember the product? I'm dubious this will actually help sell merchandise.


4 posted on 06/10/2006 4:06:40 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"Why should you buy our clothes? Well, think of the fun you'll have when you're not wearing them!"

Yeah, the web catalog is implented using flash, so in the midst of the human plumbing happening on the spinning bed, you can click on a green dot tracking along with the clothes lying wrinkled on the ground to get price, size, and color choices. It's like somthing out of a Kubric movie.

Of course, the point of the website isn't to sell clothes - no one is going to look at porn and stop to ask "Gee what colors does that hooded sweatshirt come in?" - but rather to sell how "outrageous and progressive" Shai is.

5 posted on 06/10/2006 4:08:09 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity.)
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To: Yossarian

A&F was a languishing brand name until it was sold and they hired Bruce Weber to photograph the catalog.


6 posted on 06/10/2006 4:08:38 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Yossarian

Might help sell hand soap.


7 posted on 06/10/2006 4:14:31 PM PDT by Huck (Hey look, I'm still here.)
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To: Yossarian

And the leftists wonder why islamofascists hate the west.


8 posted on 06/10/2006 4:16:36 PM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: technomage

They hate us for our blue jeans?


9 posted on 06/10/2006 4:17:50 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Yossarian

I thought the woman was wearing too much facial make-up, like she had a bad case of acne.


10 posted on 06/10/2006 4:17:54 PM PDT by AZLiberty (America is the hope of all men who believe in the principle of freedom and justice. - A. Einstein)
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To: durasell
A&F was a languishing brand name until it was sold and they hired Bruce Weber to photograph the catalog.

Yes, sex sells. And yet, with Shai taking viral marketing to a new, literal level, the Europeans are facing (native) population implosions. I guess we're seeing nature's way of dealing with the problem.

11 posted on 06/10/2006 4:18:31 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity.)
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To: durasell
They hate us for our blue jeans?

Did you forget your sarcasm tag??

Or do you not realize that one of the main reasons given by the wacked out terrorists for their hatred of the west is the decadence seen every day on TV, in print, etc.

12 posted on 06/10/2006 4:20:49 PM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: Yossarian

Not all sex sells. And it doesn't sell all products.


13 posted on 06/10/2006 4:21:23 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: technomage

Actually, I did forget the sarcasm tag. Apologies.

I also refuse to suggest that we change our lifestyle based on what offends these people. I will debate with an American Christian the merits or damage over-sexualization does to society, but not with anyone who wishes to impose Sharia in my country. I don't see this as a fine distinction.


14 posted on 06/10/2006 4:25:54 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell
Not all sex sells. And it doesn't sell all products.

Well, at the basic grunt level, sex works as a sales tool because it implies, that by using the product depicted, you'll be more attractive to a healthy person of the opposite gender and therefore be more likely to pass your genetics on to a next generation.

You have a counter-example to that?

15 posted on 06/10/2006 4:27:12 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity.)
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To: Yossarian
What a shame, Abercrombie & Fitch used to be a fine sporting goods store. I would always stop in their San francisco store, when I was a boy. They had a counter where they would take your measurements for shot guns made in England. Now they cater to bimbos.
16 posted on 06/10/2006 4:28:30 PM PDT by fogofbobegabay
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To: Yossarian

I don't watch television that much, but I believe the Paris Hilton burger commercials were something of a flop.


17 posted on 06/10/2006 4:29:37 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Yossarian
The Advertising industry has done incredible research, and determined that sex does not sell in all circumstances.

It only sells certain types of products, but does not work at all with others. Products that are less "frivolous" and more "serious" are not helped by using sex in the advertising.

18 posted on 06/10/2006 4:32:33 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

I don't know, sex could help with these products --

http://www.pemed.com/dialysis/cobec3/cobec3.htm


19 posted on 06/10/2006 4:34:27 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell
Good point. My answer to that is that
  1. Paris Hilton is isn't regarded as a healthy member of the opposite sex. That's true certainly to female viewers, and many men think she looks diseased;
  2. People know - when the sexual imagery is over-the-top - that they are being manipulated, and it turns them off; and
  3. Hamburgers don't lead to sexy bodies, so the ad violated common sense.

You do the same ad, with more subtley, with both healthy men and women in it, and make it for healthy food, I guarantee that it would work.

20 posted on 06/10/2006 4:36:49 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity.)
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To: Yossarian

Seems like a poor marketing strategy, as the last thing viewers will be paying attention to are the clothes.


21 posted on 06/10/2006 4:36:54 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: durasell

Thats very nice!


22 posted on 06/10/2006 4:38:19 PM PDT by DariusBane (I do not separate people, as do the narrow-minded, into Greeks and barbarians.)
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To: durasell
Ewwww...see what I mean.
23 posted on 06/10/2006 4:38:54 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Yossarian

Their style is "K-mart-ish" at best. Without a controversial ad they'd never be noticed.


24 posted on 06/10/2006 4:39:31 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: SkyPilot

Are you telling me this company wouldn't benefit from a sexy spokesperson, such as Heather Locklear?

http://pediatric.um-surgery.org/new_070198/new/Library/Broviac%20Catheters.htm


25 posted on 06/10/2006 4:41:28 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Yossarian

I've always been attracted to women that come across as limited edition hardcovers (collectibles) vs. those that resemble mass marketing paperbacks (10 for a buck). Everytime another Monet or Picasso is found the others lose value.

Another analogy would be my Bill Parcells Theory. Parcells, that hard-boiled football coach, would rarely offer kudos to his players. But when he did it was like winning a gold medal. He didn't hand it out like candy.


26 posted on 06/10/2006 4:43:27 PM PDT by torchthemummy ("Patriotism...means looking out for yourself by looking out for your country” - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Yossarian

I think the sex aspect has to be combined with the whole "lifestyle" thing that has to mesh with the product itself. That is to say, it's just one piece of the puzzle.


27 posted on 06/10/2006 4:44:02 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Yossarian
In three videos, shirts are quickly peeled off, pants are yanked down, and the models do what naked people do best.

Play Lacrosse?

"Coed, naked Lacrosse! It's rough, it's tough, and it's played in the buff!"

Mark

28 posted on 06/10/2006 4:46:04 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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In three videos, shirts are quickly peeled off, pants are yanked down, and the models do what naked people do best.

Shower?

29 posted on 06/10/2006 4:51:04 PM PDT by ahayes (Yes, I have a devious plot. No, you may not know what it is.)
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To: torchthemummy
Everytime another Monet or Picasso is found the others lose value.

Here in the Silicon Valley, the Monets and Picassos price themselves like they're actual Monets and Picassos, and beyond that I have just a few overpriced Kinkades to choose from.

(Not that I'm bitter living here in Man Jose....)

30 posted on 06/10/2006 4:51:46 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity.)
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To: durasell
I think the sex aspect has to be combined with the whole "lifestyle" thing that has to mesh with the product itself. That is to say, it's just one piece of the puzzle.

Agreed.

31 posted on 06/10/2006 4:57:16 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity.)
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To: Yossarian

Also, that magic 18 to 35 demographic sees so many commercials and ads that they've learned how to filter them out. It must take a herculean effort to break through to them...


32 posted on 06/10/2006 5:00:16 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Yossarian

The Victoria's Secrets commercials always seem to do well. Now if their models started demonstrating how easily their product comes off, I'd have to watch closely several times to form an opinion.


33 posted on 06/10/2006 5:08:07 PM PDT by Postal Worker with a gun (I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.....)
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To: durasell

They hate us for our genes.


34 posted on 06/10/2006 5:42:06 PM PDT by sine_nomine (The Constitution requires secure borders, not welfare and amnesty for illegals.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
few things are less attractive than a slut.

Care to revise that?

35 posted on 06/10/2006 5:45:10 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta

He said few, not none.


36 posted on 06/10/2006 8:06:04 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Yossarian
Are there any pictures?.....Say no more...


37 posted on 06/10/2006 9:03:37 PM PDT by Dallas59
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