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Terror Links to Saddam's Inner Circle (newly revealed document)
FoxNews ^ | June 11, 2006 | Ray Robison

Posted on 06/11/2006 6:48:24 PM PDT by FairOpinion

What was the relationship between Saddam Hussein's inner circle and Islamic terrorists? A newly released document captured in Iraq, but never before seen by the public, offers glimmers of new insight at the Pentagon's Foreign Military Studies Office Web site. The FMSO is a research and analysis center under the U.S. Army's Training and Doctrine Command. This particular document mentions two men with similar names, each with ties to Pakistani religious schools known as madrassas, Jihad training camps, the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

This original translation by my translator-colleague, who goes by the nom de guerre of "Sammi," comes from a notebook kept by an Iraqi intelligence agent. It provides evidence of a cooperative, operational relationship agreed to at the highest levels of the Iraqi government and the Taliban. The notebook is lengthy and we will present it on the FOX News Web site in a series of postings. It deals extensively with meetings between Maulana Fazlur Rahman, an Al Qaeda/Taliban supporter, and Taha Yassin Ramadan, the former vice president of Iraq, and other unnamed Iraqi officials.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedairaq; blix; bush; bushwasright; fazlurrahman; gwot; hansblix; iraq; iraqalqaeda; maulanafazlurrahman; maulanarahman; prewardocs; prewarintelligence; rahman; ramadan; saddam; saddamterrorlink; taharamadan; tahayassinramadan; taliban; terrorism; terrorismwot; waronterror; wmd; wot; yassinramadan
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1 posted on 06/11/2006 6:48:26 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: eyespysomething

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2 posted on 06/11/2006 6:48:59 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

Oh my, could it be another bunch of forged documents??? (sarcasm)


3 posted on 06/11/2006 6:50:26 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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"It provides evidence of a cooperative, operational relationship agreed to at the highest levels of the Iraqi government and the Taliban.
4 posted on 06/11/2006 6:51:00 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: jveritas

Link to the 76 pdf document (in Arabic)

http://70.168.46.200/released/03-22-06/ISGP-2003-00014127.pdf


5 posted on 06/11/2006 6:53:19 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

WTF?????????

You mean someone other than JVeritas is translating documents? Get OFF! No WAY! OK Maybe......lol


6 posted on 06/11/2006 6:54:03 PM PDT by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: All

"MUST READ" the entire FoxNews article -- they have a translation of part of the document.


7 posted on 06/11/2006 6:55:50 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Danae; jveritas
You mean someone other than JVeritas is translating documents? Get OFF! No WAY! OK Maybe......lol

LOL...It might be a good thing since there might be upwards of 2 million Docs. Of course we could tell jveritas just to hurry, he can do without sleep for next few years. :-)

8 posted on 06/11/2006 7:00:02 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: Cindy

" It provides evidence of a cooperative, operational relationship agreed to at the highest levels of the Iraqi government and the Taliban."

PING


9 posted on 06/11/2006 7:00:38 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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It's written as diary in a 1999 calendar -- so this was already going on back then.


10 posted on 06/11/2006 7:03:49 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
Yep. Remember that Cindy Sheehan thinks they are all freedom fighters and Iraq had no terrorists. Freedom Fighters video snippet.
11 posted on 06/11/2006 7:10:11 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: jveritas; Ernest_at_the_Beach

ping


12 posted on 06/11/2006 7:10:19 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: jazusamo

lol


13 posted on 06/11/2006 7:11:24 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (The Right To Take Life is NOT a Constitutional "Liberty" protected by the 14th Amendment)
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"Two captured documents — this notebook and the West Point document — seem to provide evidence of the same link between Maulana Fazlur Rahman and the Saddam regime, one captured in Iraq, the other in Afghanistan. The document captured in Afghanistan was used in a Combating Terrorism Center at West Point study about Al Qaeda indicating high confidence in its authenticity. The fact that two private communications captured in different countries with different authors make the same point is a good indicator that each is genuine. It thus lends creditability to the notebook that also indicates an Usama bin Laden associate was scheduled to visit Iraq."


14 posted on 06/11/2006 7:19:09 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

Cusack has been a left wing wack for decades.


15 posted on 06/11/2006 7:20:20 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: FairOpinion

We all knew the evidence would come out--so now will it be widely reported? (I suspect it will require some effort on the part of the pyjamahadeen...)


16 posted on 06/11/2006 7:20:39 PM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: FairOpinion

Ignore above. Wrong thread.


17 posted on 06/11/2006 7:20:58 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: armymarinemom; Chieftain

Well, cindy did say that if the terrorists came over here from wherever..we could "just use anything, even a rolling pin to attack them back!"

I didn't feel so worried then, cause Cindy had a great plan.


18 posted on 06/11/2006 7:23:56 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Moderate Mooslims.....what's that?)
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To: FairOpinion

Good post. It is a pity that those who need this information the most, believe that the Pentagon was hit by a cruise missle, and the Twin Towers where purposely detonated by hidden explosives placed by John Ashcroft and Dick Cheney.


19 posted on 06/11/2006 7:28:21 PM PDT by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: mission9

They've twisted their world view so bad that they could be kidnapped by the terrorists, shown inpeccable evidence, and made to witness beheadings and they still would blame Rove and Bush and Cheney....


20 posted on 06/11/2006 7:31:37 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: FairOpinion

Whoops. Almost forgot to say thanks for the great post. Yet another stone turned over that shows Saddam had ties with world wide terrorist groups.


21 posted on 06/11/2006 7:38:46 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: FairOpinion

ping


22 posted on 06/11/2006 7:43:09 PM PDT by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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To: FairOpinion

Another article about AQ in Iraq:

IRAQ: FORMER PM (ALLAWI) REVEALS SECRET SERVICE DATA ON BIRTH OF AL-QAEDA IN IRAQ

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1635308/posts

(link to original article:

http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.169852178&par=0


23 posted on 06/11/2006 7:49:34 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: jazusamo
LOL I WISH I had started takin Arabic years ago as I had planned. I got Preggers instead. Go figure... ROFL!

Yea, I am still going to school, Homeland Security is my Major. Leo just in case you are askin... lol
24 posted on 06/11/2006 7:52:36 PM PDT by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

LO< I still like him. He looks like an ex-boyfriend... LOL I don't trust him either, but they are still good to look at! lol


25 posted on 06/11/2006 7:54:16 PM PDT by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: FairOpinion

from a notebook kept by an Iraqi intelligence agent. It provides evidence of a cooperative, operational relationship agreed to at the highest levels of the Iraqi government and the Taliban.

I think we'll see more of these connections as more documents are translated and as we get closer to November 2


26 posted on 06/11/2006 8:13:49 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: FairOpinion

Yeah, the pre-war intelligence sure was "faulty". /sarc


27 posted on 06/11/2006 8:16:14 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: FairOpinion

The president needs to take these documents to a White House press briefing immediately. Helen, shove this!


28 posted on 06/11/2006 8:27:55 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: FairOpinion
Thanks for the GREAT post, FairOpinion!

The pieces keep falling into the puzzle, don't they?

29 posted on 06/11/2006 8:43:32 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: FairOpinion

someone notify MSM!


30 posted on 06/11/2006 9:01:06 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: Cinnamon

http://markeichenlaub.blogspot.com/ More links between Saddam and al Qaeda mentioned here
Don't tell the MSM, they are too busy telling us that Zarqawi's death isn't important. They can't be bothered for a few weeks until they can cook up another fake scandal.


31 posted on 06/11/2006 9:07:41 PM PDT by ikez78
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To: FairOpinion; jveritas; Fedora; Howlin; ravingnutter; piasa; Peach; Grampa Dave; pinz-n-needlez; ...

Big find -- only someone who pretends that the Taliban was not deeply implicated with Al Qaeda or that VP Ramadan was not Saddam's right hand man could possibly doubt the enormous significance of this find. Of course, libs have made a career out of ignoring the obvious, so nothing will sway them now.


32 posted on 06/11/2006 9:08:31 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: FairOpinion

More thanks to that jerkoff Negroponte no doubt... I SWEAR he is working against us.


33 posted on 06/11/2006 9:09:57 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: FreedomNeocon

"More thanks to that jerkoff Negroponte no doubt... I SWEAR he is working against us.
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Huh???? Negroponte is the current National Intelligence Director. This is from 1999, when Clinton wasn't paying attention, while Saddam was playing footsie and planning with Al Qaeda.


34 posted on 06/11/2006 9:13:40 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: armymarinemom

"Yep. Remember that Cindy Sheehan thinks they are all freedom fighters and Iraq had no terrorists. Freedom Fighters video snippet."

Here's a link with a transcript and a file you don't have to download:

Cindy Calls Them “Freedom Fighters” | Sweetness & Light
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/cindy-calls-them-freedom-fighters


35 posted on 06/11/2006 9:15:10 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill

Thanks. Have the whole series.


36 posted on 06/11/2006 9:17:00 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: FairOpinion

Wow! I am certain the MSM will be all over this one!

Yeah, I know. Here's the tag: /sarc.

But it is on the Foxnews website--that's a start. (Trying to be positive here.)


37 posted on 06/11/2006 9:18:21 PM PDT by Shelayne (Islam--the religion of pieces)
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To: FairOpinion

I think he's referring to how Negroponte dragged his feet on releasing any docs, until Pres. Bush had to order that it be done.

These docs should have been studied and released 3 years ago. Negroponte has only been on the scene for a year or so, I believe, but still he could have expedited the project and instead kept opposing the release of any docs. It think just about any national security bureaucrat hates releasing docs (unless it's libs leaking to the MSM), but still Negroponte should have grasped how important it is for these docs to be read and translated.


38 posted on 06/11/2006 9:19:07 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: Enchante; FreedomNeocon

"I think he's referring to how Negroponte dragged his feet on releasing any docs, until Pres. Bush had to order that it be done. "


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Thanks for the clarification. Now I understand the comment.



39 posted on 06/11/2006 9:27:12 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Shelayne

But I only found it by accident -- it's not listed in their Frontpage stories.

I searched Google News for the word "terror" and it showed up that way.


40 posted on 06/11/2006 9:28:34 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

Good stuff.


41 posted on 06/11/2006 9:59:41 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: FairOpinion
Ever since he SAT on the Saddam docs for 2yrs while Bush was savaged as a 'liar' and all this BS I don't trust him.

Add in that he was spinning it one way, and when backed into a corner he started to spin another.

NO.... I do no trust Negroponte AT ALL... period.
42 posted on 06/11/2006 10:06:47 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: FreedomNeocon

and neither should you.

Just make sure to do a 2nd check on the stuff that comes out of his office.

I smell something....


43 posted on 06/11/2006 10:08:27 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: All; jveritas; RayRobisonblog

Just found this relevant earlier post (May 2006):


Jveritas (Joseph), "Sammi", and Ray Robison combine forces on PreWarDoc book project

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1625533/posts


Great idea!


44 posted on 06/11/2006 10:09:40 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

Thank you so much for posting this. I've been following Ray Robison 's work since March. his is excellent that it is being featured by Fox news.


45 posted on 06/11/2006 10:18:21 PM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: FairOpinion

I should have figured that out. It was too much to hope for--a press that wants the truth to be told! What was I thinking?

::RAZZ:: to them! :^p


46 posted on 06/11/2006 10:19:08 PM PDT by Shelayne (Islam--the religion of pieces)
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To: FairOpinion

ping


47 posted on 06/11/2006 10:35:40 PM PDT by SideoutFred (Save us from the Looney Left)
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To: FairOpinion

This is news that will do nothing to silence
the "BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED!" crowd.


48 posted on 06/11/2006 10:46:36 PM PDT by XR7
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To: FairOpinion
But, but, but... Saddam was SECULAR.

He hated the Islamists too darned much to have anything to do with them. Honest.

49 posted on 06/11/2006 11:07:52 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: FairOpinion

BTT


50 posted on 06/12/2006 1:57:10 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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