Skip to comments.Iíve found God, says man who cracked the genome
Posted on 06/11/2006 9:51:12 PM PDT by Marius3188
THE scientist who led the team that cracked the human genome is to publish a book explaining why he now believes in the existence of God and is convinced that miracles are real.
Francis Collins, the director of the US National Human Genome Research Institute, claims there is a rational basis for a creator and that scientific discoveries bring man closer to God.
His book, The Language of God, to be published in September, will reopen the age-old debate about the relationship between science and faith. One of the great tragedies of our time is this impression that has been created that science and religion have to be at war, said Collins, 56.
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Lots of scientists become believers once they understand the precision and complexity of creation, from a galaxy to a cell.
Does he play dice?
I thought he was going to say the genome was G-d. Steven Hawkings has made the statement that if he could find the unified law of physics he will have found G-d, meaning that physics is the replacement for G-d.
Collins believes that science cannot be used to refute the existence of God because it is confined to the natural world. In this light he believes miracles are a real possibility. If one is willing to accept the existence of God or some supernatural force outside nature then it is not a logical problem to admit that, occasionally, a supernatural force might stage an invasion, he says.
It looks like the good doctor has seen the error of apriori concluding that no supernatural forces can exist or intervene in our world. Instead just let the evidence lead to the logical conclusions. That is the essence of good research. Good for him.
Wouldn't it be something if he announced he believed in Creation Science? That would send a lot of people here into spasms.
It is not uncommon for the scientist's faith to be strengthened by what he or she observes in research. I know that has been the case for me so far.
Through the natural processes he created, of course.
PING! This one might prove to be interesting...
Indeed! One of those just posted this response...
His name is, "Hawking".
"Through the natural processes he created, of course."
What natural process?
Most dare not openly admit they are believers for fear of offending the atheist/Darwinist priesthood that controls the universities and their professional livelihoods.
When this brave scientist peered into the incredibly information rich human genome, the foundation of his atheist belief system was shaken and cracked. The sorry edifice fell into complete ruins when he opened his mind to the richness and exquisite beauty of a Pacific northwest forest during a casual hike.
Thank God that some scientists have the courage to open their eyes and minds and let the evidence speak to them afresh.
The path of least resistance of course
A very good friend of mine, who was a researcher at Sandia labs at the time, told me the same thing, so persuasively that it changed the trajectory of my life. Many who call themselves men of science are made insecure by the idea of things they can not understand, especially the very intelligent. Others are relieved that they don't have to know everything while still finding meaning in their lives.
It is only logical.. God is the father of all science. He is the master arquitect, the ultimate scientists.
Heh.. the ironoic part is 'smart people' get to a point where they acknowledge that the knowledge they have accumliated to even realize how things works, cannot be an accident.
Divine comedy and all that... Dante would be proud ;)
Wow- scientist finds God. I bet that will be an interesting book. Looking foward to it.
Collins has been a professing Christian for as long as I've known of him; he's never made any secret of it. He mentions it in this 1998 interview. Yet he was chosen to head the genome initiative. I guess that means what you just wrote is full of it. As usual.
I thought he was going to say the genome was G-d. Steven Hawkings has made the statement that if he could find the unified law of physics he will have found G-d, meaning that physics is the replacement for G-d."
If God created everything, then he created physics.
Is physics capable of creating physics?
Always ready with a zinger.....
> God is the father of all science. He is the master arquitect, the ultimate scientists.
Errrr... really? To be a scientist, you need to find some question you don't already have an answer for, and then experiments and reason your way to the facts. I was kinda under the impression that God already knew all the answers. God turning out to be a scientist means that God isn't omniscient.
Some scientists sought nothing less than the total annihilation of religious faith in the wake of Darwinism and Newtonian physics. They not only failed, they failed utterly. Never has religious faith been more fully and powerfully informed by the findings of science than it is today.
"I've got a million of them!" But no more for you tonight!
Watch how fast his fellows will shun and/or marginalize him now. And watch how fast the media will forget he ever existed.
> Thank God that some scientists have the courage to open their eyes and minds and let the evidence speak to them afresh.
Yup. Thank God for the likes of Darwin, for example.
> Some scientists sought nothing less than the total annihilation of religious faith...
Names and citations, please.
See post #25 to learn how unfounded your conspiracy theory is.
Not according to Einstein.
Then this highly hypothetical "God" person isn't a scientist.
Seems this would be an appropriate thread to mention at this point:
"In further news, scientists worldwide declare genome scientist a quack, kick him out of their professional associations".
Such vitriol. Your retort does not refute his point. Simply because one man speaks out does not mean that all have spoken out. Your response is also a self-refutation. The tone of your remark is WHY others do not speak out. Your bitterness and contempt is palpable.
all knowledge comes from God.. nothing is revealed without him doing so. As to him being the ultimate scientists, no it does not mean he's got questions to unknowns.. that's not the meaning of science. at the end of the journey through our limited view of the world arounds us, one cannot but admit that all of it is not a product of chance, but a masterpiece, and behind the masterpiece there is a painter
he is creating life forms, and sharing this knowledge with his life forms: Us
I see some DUmmie trolls are here today.
Yes, but His dice are spherical.
Uh, yes it does.
Simply because one man speaks out does not mean that all have spoken out.
Plenty of scientists are professing Christians. Nobody really cares.
The tone of your remark is WHY others do not speak out. Your bitterness and contempt is palpable.
I have enormous contempt for those who misrepresent the words of others. Case in point.
> When this brave scientist peered into the incredibly information rich human genome, the foundation of his atheist belief system was shaken and cracked.
"Another thing that's very important to me is my faith, and that surprises people. They assume that scientists in general would find it difficult to have coexisting within them a belief in a personal god. And yet to me that is the unifying principle of who I am. And it's not a faith which was sort of acquired as a child and which I've just not been able to grow out of, which is the other thing people tend to assume. I acquired that faith at age 27..."
OK, he was 27 when he "found God." Accordign to here:
He was born in 1950. That means he found God in 1977 or so.
According to Wikipedia: "Tapped to take on the leadership of the HGP, Collins accepted an invitation in 1993 to succeed James Watson and become director of the National Center for Human Genome Research, which became NHGRI in 1997. As director, he oversees the International Human Genome Sequencing Consortium and many other aspects of what he has called "an adventure that beats going to the moon or splitting the atom."
In 1994, Collins founded NHGRI's Division of Intramural Research (DIR), an intramural program of genome research that has developed into one of the nation's premier research centers in human genetics."
So: which came first... 1977 or 1994?
Was he a stealth Christian in '94, only "coming out" recently?
That wheelchair guy?
> all knowledge comes from God.
Prove that claim. Show your work. And then stand by to win a Nobel prize.
I'll just wait patiently...
> no it does not mean he's got questions to unknowns.. that's not the meaning of science.
Uh, yeah, it pretty much is.
> one cannot but admit that all of it is not a product of chance
Errr... sure looks like a whole lotta chance going on to me.
I posted a link to a 1998 interview, where he talks about his conversion to Christianity. Clearly, our commissars have been sloppy. He should have been terminated immediately.
I see where you're going with this...
may I recommend a fine book called Godless, by Ann Coulter?