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War vets and POWs blast NY Times/Kerry "news story"
Enter Stage Right ^ | 6/12/06 | Jim Kouri

Posted on 06/11/2006 10:44:05 PM PDT by freespirited

While 2008 seems a long ways off, there are quite a few politicians in both political parties gearing up for a presidential run. One of those politicians is Senator John F. Kerry (D-MA), who lost in 2004 largely because of his anti-war activity when he returned from four months service in Vietnam and his exaggeration of his wartime exploits.

One group that will not allow Americans to forget the real John Kerry is also gearing up for when he tosses his hat in the ring, much the same way he tossed phony medals over the White House fence when he was protesting the war with like-minded left-wingers.

"It isn't about medals, it's about honor betrayed," retired Air Force Colonel George E. "Bud" Day said in his response to the New York Times' report that Sen. John Kerry is attempting to resurrect his disputed Vietnam service and decorations as he readies for another Presidential campaign.

"The New York Times would be wise to stop dodging the real issue behind the veteran animus towards Mr. Kerry. He is anathema for a vast majority of Vietnam veterans who believe he betrayed them 35 years ago," Col. Day said.

A former Vietnam POW (1967-73) and Medal of Honor recipient, Col. Day is the most highly decorated Air Force veteran alive. He is also Chairman of the Vietnam Veterans Legacy Foundation, a non-profit organization of several POWs and the wife of a POW who are the targets of ongoing lawsuits filed by Kerry campaign aides last year. The VVLF POWs are accused of libeling and defaming Kerry and his anti-war followers in a 2004 documentary, "Stolen Honor: Wounds that Never Heal."

That film examined the impact of Kerry's testimony before the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee on American POWs being held in the notorious "Hanoi Hilton" prison camp. Then Lt. jg Kerry accused Vietnam veterans of being "war criminals" who raped and plundered the Vietnamese, "murdering over 200,000 innocent civilians each year.

And Kerry hasn't changed say his critics. They point to his television appearance when he complained that US soldiers were terrorizing women and children in the middle of the night, but presented no evidence to backup his claim.

When the Sinclair Broadcast Group announced plans to air "Stolen Honor" in October 2004, the Kerry/Edwards Campaign launched an all-out effort to prevent it from being shown or distributed. The producer, a thrice-wounded, decorated Marine and a Pulitzer Prize and Peabody Award-winner, was sued immediately by Kerry campaign aides. In the wake of Kerry campaign-inspired boycotts, stockholder actions, lawsuits and Congressional demands for FCC and FEC investigations, Sinclair backed off its planned airing of "Stolen Honor."

The recent New York Times article, "Kerry Pressing Swift Boat Case Long After Loss," revealed Kerry plans to re-ignite the issue of his Vietnam service and medals, roundly disputed by virtually all of his former commanding officers and shipmates who were part of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth campaign.

According to the Times, Kerry has gathered "new evidence" to support his claims that he is a war hero. One piece of that "new evidence" is a "hat" the Massachusetts Senator says was given to him during a highly disputed "secret mission" into Cambodia on Christmas 1968.

"No matter how many versions of his four months in Vietnam Sen. Kerry literally pulls out of his 'hat,' or the medals he shunned then embraced, all of that is nothing but reportorial smoke and fog designed to obscure the far more important issue - John Kerry's deliberate betrayal of his countrymen." Col. Day added, "That alone compelled many POWs and most Vietnam veterans, Swift Boaters included, to stand firm against this poser, this strutting would-be hero and turncoat."

One political analyst is far more more cynical than Col. Day. Mike Baker says he believes that Kerry and his minions have been running around trying to "find" documents to back Kerry's claims.

"Kerry knows the mainstream news media will help him when allegations re-surface during a Kerry nomination for President of the United States. They attempted to help him the last time by alleging war heroes were lying about Kerry's war record," said Baker.

Jim Kouri, CPP is currently fifth vice-president of the National Association of Chiefs of Police and he's a staff writer for the New Media Alliance. He's former chief at a New York City housing project in Washington Heights nicknamed "Crack City" by reporters covering the drug war in the 1980s. In addition, he served as director of public safety at a New Jersey university and director of security for several major organizations. He's also served on the National Drug Task Force and trained police and security officers throughout the country. Kouri writes for many police and security magazines including Chief of Police, Police Times, The Narc Officer and others. He's a news writer for TheConservativeVoice.Com. He's also a columnist for AmericanDaily.Com, MensNewsDaily.Com, MichNews.Com, and he's syndicated by AXcessNews.Com. He's appeared as on-air commentator for over 100 TV and radio news and talk shows including Oprah, McLaughlin Report, CNN Headline News, MTV, Fox News, etc. His book Assume The Position is available at Amazon.Com. Kouri's own website is located at http://jimkouri.us.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: budday; kerry; notfondajohn; nytimes; swiftees; traitor; treason; vietnam
As soon as the Senator from France announces, I send another check to the Swiftees.
1 posted on 06/11/2006 10:44:10 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited

We are supposed to believe that Murtha and Kerry were war heros, but that there are no heros from the Iraq war.


2 posted on 06/11/2006 10:59:50 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ClaireSolt

Has he signed the form yet?


3 posted on 06/11/2006 11:20:31 PM PDT by ken5050 (GWB, Reagan, Thatcher, Pope John Paul II, freed hundreds of millions.# of Nobel PeacePrizes: ZERO)
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To: freespirited

I have stated before that I believe this new effort by Kerry to discredit the Swiftboat Vets for Truth is simply to innoculate John McCain in advance.


4 posted on 06/11/2006 11:20:52 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: ken5050
Has he signed the form yet?

The Boston Globe says YES....and that everything looks fine..! They are the only ones authorized to review the records.

5 posted on 06/11/2006 11:40:04 PM PDT by Jay Howard Smith (Retired(25yrs)Military)
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To: freespirited
But ,,, but ,,, but,,,

He's Got A Plan



Seven Dead Monkeys Page O Tunes

6 posted on 06/11/2006 11:42:34 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl!)
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To: freespirited

I sent money last month. They need it now more than ever.

Kerry is sueing them because of their truth.


7 posted on 06/11/2006 11:47:10 PM PDT by cibco (www.streachfuelmileage.shorturl.com)
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To: freespirited
"Mike Baker says he believes that Kerry and his minions have been running around trying to "find" documents to back Kerry's claims. "

Ask Dan Rather. He has them.

yitbos

8 posted on 06/11/2006 11:47:37 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: freespirited
"According to the Times, Kerry has gathered "new evidence" to support his claims that he is a war hero. One piece of that "new evidence" is a "hat" the Massachusetts Senator says was given to him during a highly disputed "secret mission" into Cambodia on Christmas 1968."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Please, go for it Kerry. Tell us how this was "seared- SEARED into your memory again-(when you weren't even there)

"Has he signed the form yet?"

It's just a matter of discovery if Kerry goes forward with lawsuits. They won't need his signature.

Kerry is a compulsive liar. He can't help himself. His entire life is one big lie. This kind of person re-creates himself into someone else, like a split personality. He actually believes himself, and supresses his true self. This is a serious mental illness. His grandfather was mentaly disturbed as well, and commit suicide. Kerry holds the same political marxist/socialist beliefs as he did.

9 posted on 06/12/2006 1:26:55 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Jay Howard Smith

No he didn't. Only a limited amount of records were allowed released. They were screened first. Substantial amounts of records are missing.


10 posted on 06/12/2006 1:30:15 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: freespirited
Vietnam Veterans Legacy Foundation, a non-profit organization of several POWs and the wife of a POW who are the targets of ongoing lawsuits filed by Kerry campaign aides last year. The VVLF POWs are accused of libeling and defaming Kerry and his anti-war followers in a 2004 documentary, "Stolen Honor: Wounds that Never Heal."

Well, well. He doesn't even have the guts to sue them in person.

God bless the longevity, health, and finances of all those vets who seek to keep kerry from the presidency. I pray every lawsuit against the Swift Vets & Friends FAILS in short order and the stench, the odium, of kerry's own ways will cling to him to prevent his ascension to any higher office than he currently holds.

11 posted on 06/12/2006 1:31:48 AM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: OldFriend
How does one innoculate this?


12 posted on 06/12/2006 1:33:57 AM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: freespirited; All
I had hoped to never need to resurrect this click the pic link ( which, BTW, has been updated with refutations of SKerry's latest attacks on the SBV ):

John Kerry- some selected, informative links...Click the picture & goto "last" for the latest:



13 posted on 06/12/2006 2:30:24 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: freespirited
According to the Times, Kerry has gathered "new evidence" to support his claims that he is a war hero.

Real heroes don't go around gathering "evidence" and waving a T-Shirt that says "I am a war hero."

John Kerry is a joke.

14 posted on 06/12/2006 3:32:09 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: GretchenM
Do you doubt that Kerry and McCain are cohorts?

When kerry and ketchup lady were on with larrykingalive they were discussing the day of 9/11.

kerry said he was in the dem leader's office for a meeting...and among those attending..........john mccain.

15 posted on 06/12/2006 5:22:44 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: OldFriend

bump


16 posted on 06/12/2006 5:44:25 AM PDT by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist, cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: meema

Not surprised about McCain being there with the dems. Don't know of a single republican who trusts him.


17 posted on 06/12/2006 5:46:08 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: OldFriend
Not surprised about McCain being there with the dems. Don't know of a single republican who trusts him.

Me, too. I knew that he was with the demz that day for a long time...wouldn't trust him any further than I could throw him.
And I don't trust anyone who gets close to him. Such as Hegel and Lindsey Graham.

18 posted on 06/12/2006 5:59:58 AM PDT by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist, cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: meema
Called Senator Kyl's office the other day with regard to the effort to permanently eliminate the estate tax.

When I was told that Senator McCain was working with Kyl, I remarked that since McCain wasn't to be trusted I didn't expect there to be a good outcome.

The comment from Kyl's aide......we can't say anything about other Senators.

19 posted on 06/12/2006 6:15:38 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: freespirited; NormsRevenge
I heard Col Day give a inspirational speech at a convention in Las Vegas in the late 80s. I believe he was a POW longer than Joan McPain. Kerry's friends, the communist bastards, were sub humans in their treatment of the POWs. I was so taken by Col Day that I bought his audio tape and I think I still have it.

Can someone post a photo of him...
20 posted on 06/12/2006 6:26:25 AM PDT by tubebender (Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.)
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To: freespirited

Polygraph


21 posted on 06/12/2006 6:31:14 AM PDT by Thom Pain (Supporting the Constitution is NOT right wing. It is centrist.)
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To: OldFriend
Do you doubt that Kerry and McCain are cohorts?

On some issues, I am sure they are, judging by their Senate activities.

On the Viet Nam war -- I have never ceased to be amazed at how McCain and Kerry buddied up, once McCain got elected to the Senate, considering Kerry's anti-war activities that increased McCain's suffering in Viet Nam.

John McCain has always appeared to me to be mentally unstable as well as in his character and I do not trust him as a dog catcher, let alone a Senator. Kerry -- well, even more so.

How deep their collusion goes, I don't know. What makes so many Americans find McCain a likable pol, someone who could be trusted to lead, to make decisions for our good as a nation, is beyond me. He scares the stuffing out of me.

22 posted on 06/12/2006 7:57:24 AM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: tubebender; Interesting Times

23 posted on 06/12/2006 8:07:50 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: OldFriend
Called Senator Kyl's office the other day with regard to the effort to permanently eliminate the estate tax. When I was told that Senator McCain was working with Kyl, I remarked that since McCain wasn't to be trusted I didn't expect there to be a good outcome.

Kyl, too? Or could that be on estate tax only...although I do seem to remember Kyl being more with McVain/kennedy a year or two ago on illegals than he seems to be now.
I'm soooo confused. Mostly because I didn't sleep much the last few nights.
Probably should just lurk until I catch up on my sleep...
Thanks for the info, OF.

24 posted on 06/12/2006 8:18:13 AM PDT by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist, cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: GretchenM; OldFriend
How deep their collusion goes, I don't know.

It goes deep enough that in the early 1990's, when "our" government was frantic to "normalize relations" with Vietnam so their corporate sponsors could start making buckets of money in the new market, there was a stumbling block to their plans - the vast amount of credible evidence that some American POW's and MIA's were still alive and being held by the Vietnamese, and the public efforts of their families and others to address this as a condition of recognition of Vietnam.

McCain and Kerry joined forces to harass, denigrate, sabotage and discredit the MIA families' investigations (Kerry's staff even shredded crucial documents).

In 2004 Kerry was derailed by the Swiftvets - in 2008 McCain's nemesis will be the POW/MIA families.

25 posted on 06/12/2006 8:21:00 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: tarheelswamprat

I should have said: How deep their collusion goes as it applies to who gets elected to what, I don't know.


26 posted on 06/12/2006 8:24:22 AM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: Syncro
Yep...that's him. His talk was one of those Spellbinders that get your attention from the first few words...
27 posted on 06/12/2006 8:39:16 AM PDT by tubebender (Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.)
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To: tarheelswamprat
I will make another donation to the Swift Boat Vets if they want to put the truth out about McCain.

Judging from the way McCain is going after the administration lately tho, it would seem he sees the handwriting on the wall and knows he is not going to get the nomination.

He is very bad news.

28 posted on 06/12/2006 8:39:48 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: GretchenM

Doubtful that many Americans find McCain an acceptable candidate. His reputation is totally concocted by the media because he attacks the republicans at every turn.


29 posted on 06/12/2006 8:43:03 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Syncro
Thanks. Here he is in color.

There's also quite a bit of information on Col. Day at the Vietnam Veterans Legacy Foundation.

30 posted on 06/12/2006 8:48:18 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

One piece of that "new evidence" is a "hat" the Massachusetts Senator says was given to him during a highly disputed "secret mission" into Cambodia on Christmas 1968."

Hey gang. If you'd just talk to the "hat" I'm sure you'll find that the "hat" will verify everything that Kerry is claiming. This new "hat" evidence closes the matter for good. Now let's all change the subject and let this war hero run for office without challenge.


31 posted on 06/12/2006 8:54:44 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: OldFriend
I will make another donation to the Swift Boat Vets if they want to put the truth out about McCain.

As will I.

Judging from the way McCain is going after the administration lately tho, it would seem he sees the handwriting on the wall and knows he is not going to get the nomination.

I fully expect McCain to go the third-party route.

He is very bad news.

Agreed. Insanity, an out-of-control ego, and a vicious mean streak is a very bad combination.

32 posted on 06/12/2006 9:02:32 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: tarheelswamprat
His attempt at third party will be immeasurable harmed by the CFR he fathered.

The media will give him untold accolades and he'll split the dems.....IMO

Most normal people recognize a traitor when they see one.....and McC is a traitor.

33 posted on 06/12/2006 9:09:26 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Interesting Times

Much better picture!

I just did a quick gaggle search and found the grainy b/w one.


Thanks for the link.


34 posted on 06/12/2006 9:47:13 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: OldFriend

It will be interesting to see just how much support McCain has as the electioneering picks up.


35 posted on 06/12/2006 11:39:27 AM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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