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Leno to Host Carlin, Coulter on Wednesday
Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | 6/13/06 | AP Wire Story

Posted on 06/13/2006 3:01:11 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom

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To: mjolnir
Carlin is one of the originators of the modern stand up persona. He's over the hill now but at his best he was brilliant and deserves to be ranked with the likes of Richard Pryor.
51 posted on 06/13/2006 9:33:54 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
Carlin is one of the originators of the modern stand up persona. He's over the hill now but at his best he was brilliant and deserves to be ranked with the likes of Richard Pryor.

I probably shouldn't say this, because I know it'll make my appraisal of Carlin look weaker, but I never thought Richard Pryor was very funny either-- although I did think he was much funnier than Carlin. The stand up guys I've enjoyed--- Seinfeld, Brian Regan, tend to be "throwbacks." Then again, I suppose there wouldn't be an Eddie Murphy (who I've enjoyed a lot) without a Richard Pryor. The whole topical/conscious/serious point phase in comedy whether in Norman Lear shows or stand up in the seventies/ early eighties was in general something that annoyed me.

52 posted on 06/13/2006 9:52:58 AM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: mjolnir

Well it makes your point of view easier to understand. It's just a matter of taste after all. Seinfeld was a throwback to observational humor and Mother-in-law jokes of the stand up comedians of old. Actually back then they called them 'Nightclub Comedians'. Mort Sahl was the one who brought current events into this medium.


53 posted on 06/13/2006 10:08:41 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
He's over the hill now but at his best he was brilliant and deserves to be ranked with the likes of Richard Pryor.

Now there's good company to keep. Both Carlin and Pryor made their reputation on being foul-mouthed. But neither of them were anti-establishment. They're part of the entertainment establishment.

Real anti-establishment commedians, like Andrew Dice Clay, who made the mistake of insulting society's true sacred cows, get shown the door in a real hurry.
54 posted on 06/13/2006 10:39:17 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals -- regardless of party.)
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To: Antoninus
Pryor was the Dostoevsky of comedy. At his best he was drop dead brilliant and highly self critical. If you think Clay's smutty nursery rhymes act was anti establishment...
55 posted on 06/13/2006 10:47:02 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
Pryor was the Dostoevsky of comedy.

Give me a break. I don't remember Fyodor dropping the f-bomb (or equivalent) 20 times per page. He didn't need to because he was a great writer.
56 posted on 06/13/2006 10:52:10 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals -- regardless of party.)
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To: Antoninus

That's what Pauline Kael called him. There was a lot more to him then expletives. Check out 1979's 'Richard Pryor in concert' If only his many imitators understood that.


57 posted on 06/13/2006 1:03:20 PM PDT by Borges
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To: finnigan2

I don't know if many have seen Carlin on political shows but he is 10 times more nasty and viscous than Michael Moore.


58 posted on 06/13/2006 1:06:35 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
So what does happen when you bring matter and antimatter together?
59 posted on 06/13/2006 1:07:00 PM PDT by Buggman (L'chaim b'Yeshua HaMashiach!)
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To: Borges

Yep nothing agitates "The Man" like:

Little Boy Blue
He needed the money!


60 posted on 06/13/2006 1:08:59 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: dfwgator

Stick it to the Man!


61 posted on 06/13/2006 1:20:52 PM PDT by Borges
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To: mjolnir

I don't expect her to get a fair shake tonight.

great freep name.


62 posted on 06/14/2006 4:08:36 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: sgtbono2002
Dont cut Carlin short ,he is liberal but he isnt a dummy, and he believes his own crap.

I wouldn't either. Carlin's made his living being fast on his feet with a verbal assault. Ann doesn't have his experience in the gutter. She has wits enough to hold her own, but Carlin is a sewer rat and that is where this confrontation will metaphorically take place.

63 posted on 06/14/2006 4:16:28 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: KC Burke
I don't know how the story started that Coulter and Carlin would debate each other. Apparently, Carlin is to appear to plug his film and Coulter is there to plug her book. I doubt that neither of them will be on the stage at the same time. However, if I were Coulter, I would insist on coming on after Carlin because he's not above attacking her after she's appeared and has no way of responding.
64 posted on 06/14/2006 8:33:08 AM PDT by finnigan2
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