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In a Ruined Copper Works, Evidence That Bolsters a Doubted Biblical Tale
New York Times ^ | 6/13/2006 | JOHN NOBLE WILFORD

Posted on 06/13/2006 12:20:10 PM PDT by Sabramerican

In a Ruined Copper Works, Evidence That Bolsters a Doubted Biblical Tale

In biblical lore, Edom was the implacable adversary and menacing neighbor of the Israelites. The Edomites lived south of the Dead Sea and east of the desolate rift valley known as Wadi Arabah, and from time to time they had to be dealt with by force, notably by the likes of Kings David and Solomon.

Today, the Edomites are again in the thick of combat — of the scholarly kind. The conflict is heated and protracted, as is often the case with issues related to the reliability of the Bible as history.

Chronology is at the crux of the debate. Exactly when did the nomadic tribes of Edom become an organized society with the might to threaten Israel? Were David and Solomon really kings of a state with growing power in the 10th century B.C.? Had writers of the Bible magnified the stature of the two societies at such an early time in history?

An international team of archaeologists has recorded radiocarbon dates that they say show the tribes of Edom may have indeed come together in a cohesive society as early as the 12th century B.C..... ........

The findings, Dr. Levy and Dr. Najjar added, lend credence to biblical accounts of the rivalry between Edom and the Israelites in what was then known as Judah. By extension, they said, this supported the tradition that Judah itself had by the time of David and Solomon, in the early 10th century, emerged as a kingdom with ambition and the means of fighting off the Edomites.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bible; biblicalarcheology; edom; godsgravesglyphs; israel
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1 posted on 06/13/2006 12:20:16 PM PDT by Sabramerican
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To: Sabramerican

Leave it to the publisher of all the news UNFIT to print to start out with "In biblical lore". Lore? Really! Nothing in the Bible has been proven FALSE. I call it TRUTH; not "lore".


2 posted on 06/13/2006 12:21:58 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: Sabramerican

there they go attacking the Bible...

Hey NYT, try attacking the Quran!


3 posted on 06/13/2006 12:22:23 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: Vicomte13

ping


4 posted on 06/13/2006 12:23:14 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Sabramerican

"In biblical lore"!?!?!? Once again the NYT shows itself to only be useful for lining bird cages.


5 posted on 06/13/2006 12:23:53 PM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mexico: America's Palestine)
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To: nmh

Reminds me of the vocal doubters regarding Belshazar (story found in Daniel chptr 5), squelched by the discover of a simple grain receipt from his era as ruler over Babylon!


6 posted on 06/13/2006 12:26:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Sabramerican

Doubted Biblical Tale? Who doubted it? Certainly not me!.......BTW, why would a biblical writer even waste his time going to such great lengths to invent an entire nation of people that did not exist? It's a whole lot easier to write about real things.............


8 posted on 06/13/2006 12:35:06 PM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG ping


9 posted on 06/13/2006 12:37:46 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: nmh
Nothing in the Bible has been proven FALSE

True. New discovery/find after new discovery/find always validate.

10 posted on 06/13/2006 12:40:32 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Sabramerican
There is nothing new here. IIRC, Werner Keller had photos of the Edomite copper mines in his mid-20th century book, The Bible as History.
11 posted on 06/13/2006 12:45:09 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
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To: Sabramerican

NYT: "Well, look at that, the Bible actually got something right."


12 posted on 06/13/2006 12:47:40 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: Cinnamon
Actually, I think the article supports the Bible (however weakly).

As to your comment about the "book of lies," I imagine any dig that disputes the koran would be destroyed ASAP. Islam isn't interested in the truth, hence critical examination is blasphemy. I am always amazed that muslims don't notice the complete lack of intellectual honesty and logic in such a prohibition.

13 posted on 06/13/2006 12:50:18 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Lurking Libertarian

pingtika


14 posted on 06/13/2006 12:50:26 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: AmericaUnited
Just curious, does the Gospel of Judas "prove" the Bible or disprove the story of Judas's betrayal?
15 posted on 06/13/2006 12:54:10 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Just curious, does the Gospel of Judas "prove" the Bible or disprove the story of Judas's betrayal?

Neither. Its fiction.

16 posted on 06/13/2006 12:58:17 PM PDT by Grit (Bah.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

"Just curious, does the Gospel of Judas "prove" the Bible or disprove the story of Judas's betrayal?"

But, you see, the "Gospel of Judas" is just writing. The Bible is, well...um...


17 posted on 06/13/2006 12:59:19 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Just curious, does the Gospel of Judas "prove" the Bible or disprove the story of Judas's betrayal?

The Gospel of Judas was written about 180 AD by Gnostics and was know by the early Christian Fathers as false.

18 posted on 06/13/2006 1:01:24 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: AmericaUnited

Still many reject all that is in it.

Go figure!


19 posted on 06/13/2006 1:06:19 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: nmh
Lore? Really! Nothing in the Bible has been proven FALSE. I call it TRUTH; not "lore".

You might want to look up the definition of the word “lore”.

1. Accumulated facts, traditions, or beliefs about a particular subject. See Synonyms at knowledge.
2. Knowledge acquired through education or experience.
3. Archaic. Material taught or learned.

20 posted on 06/13/2006 1:13:32 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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