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The Jihadi Network's Fatal Flaw (This article kicks gluteus maximi!)
The American Thinker ^ | 6/14/2006 | J.R. Dunn

Posted on 06/14/2006 3:03:05 PM PDT by Dark Skies

Almost overlooked in the celebrations surrounding the elimination of Zarqawi is a considerable body of evidence that the Lion of Anbar was seeking to dramatically extend the range of his operations.

The day before Zarqawi was at last struck down, the London Times carried a short piece reporting on an international intelligence operation that had uncovered a terrorist network headed by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi operating in at least eight countries. The following Sunday, the New York Times published a weakly-sourced article stating that Zarqawi had recruited and trained up to 300 foreign operatives who were sent back to their own countries, mostly in the Middle East and Europe, to await orders.

These reports are much more credible than many would be willing to grant. Zarqawi was simply following a strategy formulated by Islamism’s leading theoretician, Mustafa Setmariam Nasar, AKA Abu Mus’ab al-Suri. Born and raised in Syria, Nasar became involved with Islamism at an early age, joining al-Tali’a al-Muqatila (“The Fighting Vanguard”), a group closely associated with the Muslim Brotherhood, while still in college.

He underwent training in Cairo and Baghdad, specializing in explosives and urban guerilla warfare. He later fought the Russians in Afghanistan, where he became associated with Al-Queda. During the 90s, Nasar lived in various parts of Europe (his pale skin and red hair made it easy for him to pass as a European), including Spain, where he married an apostate Spanish woman, and the UK, where he cofounded the Algeria-based Armed Islamic Group (GIA), one of the most savage of all Islamist organizations. Returning to Afghanistan, he worked closely with the Taliban and Al Queda. He was involved in 9/11 planning, arguing in opposition to Osama bin Laden by insisting that the planes should be fitted with WMDs. After the fall of the Taliban, he devoted himself, in his own words “to filling one of the Muslims’ most important gaps—the analysis of our past experiences, drawing lessons from them, and examining the nature of the confrontations and battles that await us”. Much of this material appeared in the form of Net postings or videotapes (several of which were recently obtained by CNN). The State Department put a bounty of $5 million on Nasar’s head, placing him in the upper echelon of wanted Jihadis along with ObL and Zarqawi. Nasar denied working directly with Zarqawi, claiming he had “difficulties in reaching Iraq”. His name came up repeatedly in the Madrid and London bombing investigations, enough to lead some investigators to believe he was at least indirectly involved. He may in fact have founded the network the London bombers were associated with, although no precise evidence exists. He was arrested in Pakistan in October or November of 2005, and then disappeared into U.S. hands. Custody of this dangerous man alone justifies the existence of the rendition program.

Nasar’s major importance is as a strategist. His many analyses of Jihadi strategy are widely read, quoted, and discussed on Islamist Internet sites, and have had a clear influence on recent terrorist efforts. His crowning contribution appeared in late 2004, a 1600-page treatise titled The Call of the International Islamic Resistance. This work is not easy to find in English, though it’s said to be ubiquitous in Arabic.

Islamic Resistance is a critique of Jihadi failures answered with a detailed blueprint for future strategy.

“The enemy is strong and powerful, we are weak and poor, the war duration is going to be long… preparations better be deliberate, comprehensive and properly planned, taking into account past experiences and lessons.”

Nasar outlined a long-term campaign of sabotage and urban guerilla operations utilizing every available weapon up to and including WMDs. The goal is the complete destruction of the West. He particularly emphasized the importance of organization, recommending a broad-based, leaderless network to carry out operations. The aim was to create a system that could not be rolled up the way Al-Queda was.

If recent reports are correct, Zarqawi was attempting to create exactly this kind of network. Such a system would consist of small, distinct cells, with no direct contact between them, and no overarching hierarchal structure that could be shut down through decapitation. Separate cells would recruit, plan, and operate on their own, receiving only instructions, guidance, and technical information from overseas.

This kind of structure is known as a “distributed network” among fourth-generation warfare (4GW) enthusiasts. (4GW is a strategic school of thought holding that the type of warfare practiced by the Jihadis is a totally new form developed to combat the 3GW – fast air-armor maneuver warfare – perfected by the West. In truth, 4GW appears to be little more than terrorism and guerilla warfare fitted out with an elaborate new vocabulary.)

What’s really new – and a minor justification for 4GW rhetoric – is the use of the Internet as a contact tool. The contact system is always an Achille’s Heel of any underground organization. By identifying one member, following him until he meets up with another, then following the second member, you can soon break open an entire network. This is exactly how Zarqawi himself was at last tracked down, with his spiritual advisor Sheik Abdel Rahman unwittingly leading a Coalition drone straight to his door. Such things as dead drops and the cell system were introduced to overcome this weakness.

But suppose you had a method of contacting network members without exposing anyone at either end? Using the Net for communications raises a frightening vision of a virtual army of terrorists born and raised in the West and undetectable by conventional police techniques. Such an army could operate effectively free of surveillance, receiving instructions by e-mail or IM, getting together only to carry out operations, striking their targets and then fading back into the population while intelligence and law enforcement look on helplessly.

Something very much like this may well have happened in London and Madrid. (It’s also worth pointing out that this might conceivably have something to do with the NSA’s program of intercepting e-mail communications.)

How concerned should we be? 4GW enthusiasts, and some of the more excitable military commentators, behave as if the concept is a magic bullet, an unbeatable strategy leveraging asymmetric assets to even the odds against the Western giant. But we heard much the same about Al Queda itself five years ago, and we know how that turned out.

Under close inspection, the giant-killer concept has enough in the way of flaws, errors, and lacunae to make it barely practicable, much less a war-winning strategy. These shortcomings appear in three major categories—experience, training, and discipline. Together they comprise a contemporary example of Clausewitzean “friction” – the perversity of the universe at large that puts unforeseen obstacles in the path of even the most well-devised plan.

“In war everything is simple,” Clausewitz admonishes us. “But the simplest things are the most difficult.”

Many who work on the level of theory, without benefit of the winnowing effects of real-world practice, tend to give too much credit to pure information. From the point of view of the theorist (and this attitude colors the thinking of the entire IT field) information embodies all power. Whoever possesses superior information holds the upper hand.

Of course, it’s not that straightforward. You can send anything you like in an e-mail – plans, intelligence, instructions, what have you. But you can’t send experience. And that’s a fatal shortcoming.

Consider a situation where you have perfect knowledge of a particular target – plans, defenses, weak points, personnel, everything you need to know to get inside and destroy the place. Now give that information to an eight-year-old. Or a dull-normal, or a junkie, or a schizophrenic. Or the average teenager, for that matter.

This problem is insurmountable. It can be taken as given that there will be something wrong with fifth-column Jihadi volunteers. They will be either fanatics or misfits, both legendarily incapable of independent accomplishment. It’s true that these categories include both Zarqawi, very likely a clinical psychopath, and Nasar himself, who, with his 1600-page manuscripts and endless ranting about “the degeneracy of the West” is a representative obsessive-compulsive.

But fortunately, competent flakes of this type are the exception – John Walker Lindh is a more typical figure, as is the Toronto group’s oldest member Qayyum Abdul Jamal, who at 43 is said to have never held a regular job. This is the human material that the Jihadis have to mold and as a rule, they will exhibit certain characteristics.

They will not listen. They will ignore instructions. They will overlook details. They will be overemotional. They will sulk and feud. They will create a mental narrative, romantic and wild, a Bruce Willis feature with themselves in the starring role, and act on that rather than any stodgy plan. And when things go wrong, they will panic.

I’d hazard to guess (it’s hard to judge, considering the fog of political correctness that has been raised around the investigation) that this is what happened in Canada. And it can be depended on that, in most cases, it will happen again.

This is why there are such things as “noncoms” (sergeants in particular phlegmatic, no-nonsense types who have been around and know that things ain’t done the way they say in the book. Every organization has the equivalent of the sergeant rank, because every organization since the dawn of time has found them necessary to shepherd the less-than-capable. What Nasar’s “virtual networks” are attempting to do is operate without such a cadre of experienced low-level managers. And that’s just not possible.

As far as training goes, reading is not doing. The clearest instructions in the world won’t put across a thing to an individual who has never been involved in any comparable activity. We all recall the second London strike last summer, when the bombs failed to explode, resulting in badly-dressed mutts racing off in all directions. Zarqawi’s trainees in Iraq are unlikely to appear in any North American networks. In Canada, the only “training” the Toronto group got was running around in the woods in a kind of Jihadi paintball weekend.

A related issue is the difficulty of indoctrination. Such networks can only be recruited in already-prepared milieus, that is, Muslim communities. It’s unlikely that renegade imams will be allowed to preach from storefront mosques with quite the same abandon as occurred in the past. (In North America, in any case. Europe, as always, is another story.) Indoctrination by Internet being a doubtful proposition, this in itself should serve to limit drastically the scope of Nasar’s technique.

The problem of discipline is highlighted by Toronto as well. We have no idea how the group was organized, or whether they were part of Zarqawi’s network. What is clear is that there was little or no adult supervision (Jamal, despite his age, really doesn’t count). Those kids were chattering to people halfway across the North American continent. Word of their organization got at least as far as Georgia, prompting two would-be Jihadis to pay them a cross-border visit.

And when that pair was arrested, it did not occur to anyone to shut down operations, destroy all possible evidence, and scatter to the winds. No – they went on with their plans, utterly oblivious, until the Mounties kicked the door in.

Toronto is where Murphy caught up with Nasar. Everything that could go wrong – with experience, training, and discipline – went wrong with a vengeance. If the second wave of Jihadis were all of the caliber of the Toronto crew, we’d have nothing to worry about.

Unfortunately, that’s not the case. London and Madrid show us that Nasar networks are far from being only a paper threat. As time goes by, the Jihadis will get better at it, particularly since they have the entire subcontinent of Europe to use as a laboratory. While it will never be a war-winning strategy, it can serve to arouse confusion and fear, which have their uses. (It’s easy to picture an operation in which these networks soak up all security resources while a traditional Al-Queda team carries out an attack.)

So how do we handle it? The first point is that a distributed network doesn’t resemble an army, a guerilla force, or even the customary terrorist organization. What it resembles, with its wide range, clandestine approach, and ability to appear seemingly at random, in obedience to factors invisible to an onlooker, is an epidemic disease.

Fortunately, we know a lot about tracking epidemic diseases. The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) have been in business for decades, and have refined their techniques to a high art. You do the epidemiology, learn everything there is to know about the microorganism, its life cycle, its habits, and in particular its vectors, and concentrate on those. The pool of potential Islamist infectees is relatively small, the behavior of the infecting agent (a 4GW fan would call it a “meme”) well understood, the methods of prophylaxis highly effective.

What is certain is that a top-heavy bureaucracy such as Homeland Defense can’t meet the challenge. We need a small, self-contained unit, dedicated to handling this problem alone. A taskforce designed and staffed to deal with domestic distributed networks and nothing else.

It would need to be independent of any larger organization, though reporting to higher government echelons. It would require separate financing and its own resources, including investigative units ready to move out immediately when a possible target network is identified. Fortunately, we do have successful models for such a task force (even in going so far as to suggest a possible name – we could call it Baker Danger).

The Jihadis have not yet formulated a strategy, of whatever generation, capable of matching the West’s overwhelming technological sophistication, organizational superiority, and preponderance of force. Nor, with Zarqawi dead and Nasar in custody (both, it must be added, in connection with extremely controversial efforts – the Iraq War and prisoner rendition), is there any sign that such a thing is forthcoming. Overestimating an enemy can, through paralysis and wasted effort, be as crippling as underestimating him. There is no purpose served in overestimating the Jihadis. The butcher and the strategist have been taken off the board. We will not see their like among the Islamists again soon.

J.R. Dunn is a frequent contributor. Among many other things, he was editor of the International Military Encyclopedia for twelve years.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; jihad; terror; wot; zarkawi; zarqawi

1 posted on 06/14/2006 3:03:08 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

Looks like the "Z" man wanted to be bigger than Bin Ladin. Nice to have him no longer with us!


2 posted on 06/14/2006 3:06:53 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Dark Skies
...as is the Toronto group’s oldest member Qayyum Abdul Jamal, who at 43 is said to have never held a regular job.

Some of these guys are experts on blending in with the local community, I see.

3 posted on 06/14/2006 3:07:10 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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marking


4 posted on 06/14/2006 3:09:30 PM PDT by eureka! (Heaven forbid the Rats get control of Congress and/or the Presidency any time soon....)
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To: Dark Skies
He was arrested in Pakistan in October or November of 2005, and then disappeared into U.S. hands.

YES! I hope he's been waterboarded every day.


Mustafa Nasar

5 posted on 06/14/2006 3:11:30 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Darkwolf377
the Toronto group’s oldest member Qayyum Abdul Jamal, who at 43 is said to have never held a regular job.

Sounds like Ted Kennedy.

6 posted on 06/14/2006 3:15:12 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Argus

Oh come on, like keeping the Senate bartender busy isn't a regular job.


7 posted on 06/14/2006 3:17:36 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: LibWhacker

Wow, its amazing how "normal" he looks. He could fit in perfectly in white suberbia America. Its very creepy.


8 posted on 06/14/2006 3:28:21 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("These are not dark days, these are great days." W. S. Churchill)
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To: Dark Skies

Excellent article. And an excellent critique of network-centric warfare.

Someone needs to inform the goofball who writes this blog:
http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2006/06/iraq_zarqawi_is.html


9 posted on 06/14/2006 3:30:56 PM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: Dark Skies
He was arrested in Pakistan in October or November of 2005, and then disappeared into U.S. hands.

Hopefully, he's somewhere where proper Koran Handling Procedures are in effect.

10 posted on 06/14/2006 3:33:41 PM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: All
The Jihadis have not yet formulated a strategy, of whatever generation, capable of matching the West’s overwhelming technological sophistication, organizational superiority, and preponderance of force.

True...but think of the damage ahMADinejad can wreak with a nuke that can reach Europe. Islam is fighting a long-term war of attrition. And, like communism, it has allies in the American left.

11 posted on 06/14/2006 3:35:12 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Darkwolf377
???no regular job

What is he on the dole?

12 posted on 06/14/2006 3:38:20 PM PDT by pointsal (Q)
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To: Darkwolf377
like keeping the Senate bartender busy isn't a regular job

On Planet Bizarro, Teddy would be a driving instructor.

13 posted on 06/14/2006 3:39:15 PM PDT by Argus
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To: pointsal
What is he on the dole?

Actually, in "old time" islam, being on the dole is the honorable thing. To work is to help the infidel, but to be on the dole is like accepting the "jizya" (tribute paid by non-islamics to muslims so they, muslims, don't kill us infidels). Jizya is a kind of institutionalized protection racket in islam.

14 posted on 06/14/2006 3:46:15 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

bttt


15 posted on 06/14/2006 3:47:43 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Dark Skies
Here's some more from Clauswitz pertinent to the subject:

"The fact that slaughter is a horrifying spectacle must make us take war more seriously, but not provide an excuse for gradually blunting our swords in the name of humanity. Sooner or later someone will come along with a sharp sword and hack off our arms." - Karl von Clauswitz, On War, 1832.

"Admittedly, an aggressor often decides on war before the innocent defender does, and if he contrives to keep his preparations sufficiently secret, he may well take his victim unawares. Yet such surprise has nothing to do with war itself, and should not be possible. War serves the purpose of the defense more than that of the aggressor. It is only aggression that calls forth defense, and war along with it. The aggressor is always peace-loving (as Bonaparte always claimed to be); he would prefer to take over our country unopposed. To prevent his doing so one must be willing to make war and be prepared for it. In other words it is the weak, those likely to need defense, who should always be armed in order not to be overwhelmed. Thus decrees the art of war." - Karl von Clauswitz, On War, 1832.

Clauswitz Quoted.

16 posted on 06/14/2006 3:51:08 PM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: Dark Skies
The butcher and the strategist have been taken off the board. We will not see their like among the Islamists again soon.

The will to live trumps the desire to die.

17 posted on 06/14/2006 3:55:14 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: PsyOp
Excellent! Thx.

Allahs warriors are bloody but, in their lying, they are oblivious to the truth. I suspect that both allah and his warriors will be sorely disappointed when they learn the true nature of their enemy.

18 posted on 06/14/2006 3:56:35 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: PGalt
The will to live trumps the desire to die.

And every living creature, large and small, knows that...except for the Destroyer (Apollyon/Abaddon) and his followers.

Muslims follow death and don't even have the good sense to ask why.

19 posted on 06/14/2006 4:00:14 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies
He was arrested in Pakistan in October or November of 2005, and then disappeared into U.S. hands.

Where I hope he was quietly offed. We don't need to know what happened to him as long as he never sees the light of day again.

The butcher and the strategist have been taken off the board.

Along with numerous others, from lowly jihadist foot soldiers on up to near the very top. Haven't quite gotten them, yet, but I'm hoping we're finding ways to get operatives into the remote areas of Pakistan where OBL and company are said to be hiding.

20 posted on 06/14/2006 4:01:43 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: LibWhacker

If his skin and hair coloring are natural, he clearly has northern European ancestry.


21 posted on 06/14/2006 4:03:13 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Wolfstar

Not everyone from the middle east is olive skinned and black hair. Yep, european ancestry.


22 posted on 06/14/2006 4:20:03 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Dark Skies
...when they learn the true nature of their enemy.

"German prisoners, asked to assess their various enemies, have said that the British attacked singing, and the French attacked shouting, but that the American attacked in silence. They liked better the men who attacked singing or shouting than the men who kept coming on stubbornly without a sound." - James Jones, WW2.

Soldiers, Sailors & Airmen - In Quotes.

23 posted on 06/14/2006 4:21:03 PM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: Dark Skies

Bump.


24 posted on 06/14/2006 4:24:00 PM PDT by Stentor (It's almost 1992. Do you know where your Clinton is?)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
Not everyone from the middle east is olive skinned and black hair.

True. Mediterranean peoples in particular have mixed for thousands of years. My grandfather was born in Italy from a family that lived there for generations. He had red hair, blue eyes and a red moustache. Red hair is generally considered to be a trait passed down from the northern European tribes like the Vikings, even though it's occasionally found as far east as central Asia as well as around the Mediterranean.

25 posted on 06/14/2006 4:29:37 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Dark Skies

bump for later read.


26 posted on 06/14/2006 4:30:23 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Dark Skies

bump


27 posted on 06/14/2006 4:34:35 PM PDT by VOA
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To: PsyOp

Great link...Thx!


28 posted on 06/14/2006 4:35:55 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Argus
>"On Planet Bizarro, Teddy would be a driving instructor."

Looks like he gave Patches some personal instruction!

29 posted on 06/14/2006 4:37:19 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl!)
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To: Dark Skies

We need a small, self-contained unit, dedicated to handling this problem alone...

30 posted on 06/14/2006 4:42:43 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Dark Skies

Good Article. Thanks for posting.


31 posted on 06/14/2006 4:56:23 PM PDT by blam
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To: Dark Skies

bttt


32 posted on 06/14/2006 5:19:53 PM PDT by true_blue_texican
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To: PsyOp

"Teufelshunde" The tradition was believed to have its roots during World War I when German soldiers referred to the Marines as "devil dogs," comparing their fierce fighting ability to that of wild mountain dogs of Bavarian folklore."


33 posted on 06/14/2006 5:25:45 PM PDT by Garvin (John F. Kerry is a Masshole.)
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To: Dark Skies

We are only at the very beginning of "perpetual war" -- a "100 Years War" if you will. Be ready for the long-haul. It's a war of civilizations and the Islamics are ready to go to the mat -- with WMD and lots of killing.

I don't know if the West has the stomach for it -- or will "give-in" and become dhimmi, along with the formation of Eurabia and the Islamic flag flying over the White House.

It looks like the run-up to the Armageddon scenario for sure. Be ready for the hellfire and brimstone.

Regards,
Star Traveler


34 posted on 06/14/2006 6:18:57 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
I don't know if the West has the stomach for it -- or will "give-in" and become dhimmi, along with the formation of Eurabia and the Islamic flag flying over the White House.

Believe me, the West has the stomach for it. Islam should understand...its lies will wilt before the Judeo/Christian world will bend to its will.

What a frikken joke...that the West will ever cave to the baloney of islam.

Never happen, that!

35 posted on 06/14/2006 6:30:31 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Garvin

semper fi!


36 posted on 06/14/2006 6:58:45 PM PDT by mathurine (ua)
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To: Dark Skies

You said -- "Never happen, that!"

What they won't get by terrorism -- they will by "demographics" in about 10-15 years. That's about all the time we've got left.

Regards,
Star Traveler


37 posted on 06/14/2006 7:08:15 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Garvin

You are correct. The Germans are the ones that gave the Marines the "Devil Dogs" moniker in WWI. I believe it was after the battle of Belleau Woods (sp?).


38 posted on 06/14/2006 7:19:07 PM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: Star Traveler
For a different point of view, see this article, from which this excerpt is taken:

A brief survey of second and third world countries (or as some say the "majority world") reveals a florescence of Christian belief not seen since the earliest days of the faith. Just look at the statistics.

* In 1900 less than 10 percent of Africans were Christians. Today the number has surged to over 47 percent.

* In 1949 China had only 4 million Christians. Today the number stands at about 82 million. That's over a 20x increase, even factoring in the country's total population growth. Former Beijing bureau chief for Time magazine David Aikman projects that within a few decades 1 in 3 Chinese could be Christian.3

* Christian faith is also on the rise in South America. Many South American countries report a catholic majority and a charismatic form of Protestantism is growing most quickly, sweeping whole cities with revival.

* The spread of the faith in Korea has been just as astounding. Forget Saddleback. Seoul is now home to the world's largest church. And Korean Christians are not content with mere domestic growth. Christianity Today reports that now "Korea sends more missionaries than any country but the U.S. And it won't be long before it is number one."

Of course statistics can be misleading. Many secular European countries still show a Christian majority, even though most are only nominal (name-only) believers. However, nominalism is uncommon in the second and third world. For one, the church in these countries is young, with few second or third generation members who call themselves Christians simply because their parents were. Also, in countries like China, identifying as a Christian invites persecution. In these places those who call themselves Christians generally mean it.

Doomsayers can still point to Europe. In most European countries belief has been declining for decades. But Jenkins highlights a likely future scenario. With negative birthrates and an aging populous Europe is turning to immigration to stabilize its vulnerable economies. Jenkins believes the waves of immigration from increasingly Christian second and third world countries means Europe could very likely be "re-Christianized."

39 posted on 06/14/2006 7:40:43 PM PDT by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: Dark Skies
The first point is that a distributed network doesn’t resemble an army, a guerilla force, or even the customary terrorist organization. What it resembles, with its wide range, clandestine approach, and ability to appear seemingly at random, in obedience to factors invisible to an onlooker, is an epidemic disease.

BTTT

40 posted on 06/14/2006 7:44:14 PM PDT by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: T Ruth

You said -- "For a different point of view, see this article, from which this excerpt is taken: [ ... ]"

I don't have any doubt that Christianity will be around. That's because Jesus Christ is coming back.

However, even He asked if there would be "faith" when He returned. I suspect that we're talking about 10-20% of the world as Christian. It's small enough to be reduced to "dhimmitude" -- with Muslims being an overwhelming majority (soon) -- with their birthrates going through the roof. There's no question that demographics favor the Islamics. And with Jesus questioning "faith" upon His return -- that lends credence to that thought, too.

Regards,
Star Traveler


41 posted on 06/14/2006 7:48:44 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Dark Skies

This was a good article. But one thing struck me ironically:

"They will not listen. They will ignore instructions. They will overlook details. They will be overemotional. They will sulk and feud. They will create a mental narrative, romantic and wild, a Bruce Willis feature with themselves in the starring role, and act on that rather than any stodgy plan. And when things go wrong, they will panic."

Reminds me of the type who hang around DU, which, although we laugh at times, peole like that can cross some threshhold where violence seems the right action.

It makes me glad that I am not 15 or 20 now. I expect darker days ahead.


42 posted on 06/14/2006 7:59:49 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Dark Skies
Nice find and thanks for posting it.

Mr. Dunn raises some interesting points here. I liken the current situation to the fight against 'organized crime'. What I mean is this. When a criminal organization gets started there's always someone who's the brains behind the operation.

Behind that person are the followers. Now if the 'brain' is really smart he'll avoid capture for quite some time. Look at the mafioso trials of the last decade as proof of this assertion. The so called Dapper Don John Gotti managed to avoid imprisonment for a couple of decades through a combination of smarts and ruthlessness.

His followers however were frequently scooped up, tried, convicted, and incarcerated. That's not to say Mr. Gottis organization isn't still dangerous, they are. But they're a shadow of their former selves.

The Colombian drug gangs are another example. The stupid, careless, inexperienced members are frequently sacrificed to protect the higher ups but eventually if authorities are persistent even they fall. I offer as evidence Pablo Escobar for this assertion.

But what can also happen is that once the really stupid and the moderately smart get rounded up or killed eventually you're left with two things: the absolute dregs a la Richard Ried or very intelligent bad guys who won't be easy at all to catch a la OBL.

Leaderless resistance used to be discussed around here frequently back in the dark days of Clintons rule. It can be quite effective if practiced by dedicated, experienced, smart, and ruthless individuals who adhere strictly to their plans and then keep their mouths shut.

Fortunately for us, the jihadi freaks we're now fighting seem to lack more than one of those qualities. They may be ruthless and dedicated but they lack operational experience and they seem genetically incapable of keeping their pie holes closed under any circumstances. Quite the opposite in fact.

You never saw Gottis thugs making videotapes bragging about their latest criminal 'score' but the jihadis just can't seem to stop doing that. Every time they release one of the home movies they've made of the latest atrocity they've committed we get one step closer to capturing or killing them. It may very well be that the Zarq mans latest little video circle jerk is what got him killed.

Oh there are a few bright ones at the top left. OBL and Mullah Omar are examples. But by and large we are degrading their network, and that's what it will always be no matter what the 4GW folks think, fairly efficiently. The stupid ones are being rolled up rather rapidly.

The smart ones are being hunted mercilessly and killed or captured.

The trick will be to keep knocking out the mouthbreathers as soon as we find them, continue killing the smart ones once we've identified them, and preventing any further growth in the quite correctly identified epidemic.

We have the tools. We just need to make sure we don't lose our nerve. To 'go wobbly' as Margaret Thatcher put it could very prove fatal to Western Civilization.

L

43 posted on 06/14/2006 11:40:45 PM PDT by Lurker ("They still see you as the infidel, the other, and they'll still kill you. " Mark Steyn)
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To: Dark Skies
"They will be either fanatics or misfits, both legendarily incapable of independent accomplishment."

Lee Harvey Oswald - they're not ALWAYS incapable.
44 posted on 06/14/2006 11:53:56 PM PDT by decal (Different Tagline Tomorrow!)
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To: Dog; Coop; AdmSmith; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Straight Vermonter; Calpernia; Deetes; jmc1969; ...

Interesting read here. Makes you think of the cuts from Zarqawi's last video classic with the guy burning his hand.


45 posted on 06/15/2006 12:35:03 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: Lurker

You said -- "We have the tools. We just need to make sure we don't lose our nerve. To 'go wobbly' as Margaret Thatcher put it could very prove fatal to Western Civilization."

The problem is with the sheer numbers who are available, ready and willing to do the work. With the percentages quoted, by other terrorist experts, of the total Muslim population, that leaves approximately 270 million terrorists.

So, to lose, would be to "go wobbly" before you get each individual terrorist (around possibly 270 million of them [comparable to the entire population of the United States]) -- one-by-one. That's a long haul. That's why I would refer to it as the "100 Years War".

I hope everyone is ready for perpetual war...

Regards,
Star Traveler


46 posted on 06/15/2006 7:02:35 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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