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The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops policy paper on its support of illegal immigration
U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops ^ | Walter Ewing

Posted on 06/14/2006 4:52:10 PM PDT by garbageseeker

I am posting this article because very few people know that the Catholic Church is going out of their way to make sure CIRA is the law of the land. The church has supported illegal immigration for many years and they have been active in getting CIRA passed. I also publishing this article in the hopes that the many Catholics who support the House of Representatives would know what their church is doing on the illegal immigration issue in the United States. I really do not think that Roman Catholics know the churches position on this matter.I know that there are many Catholics out there who support the "borders enforcement only" approach, not the approach the pro-illegal immigrant. approach our leaders has taken.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; border; borders; borderwatch; bushamnesty; catholic; catholicism; churchandstate; cira; hr4437; illegal; illegalimmgration; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa; johnandken; kabc; mexico; propaganda; s2611; usccb
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To: rocksblues
Immigrants paid $80,000 per person more in taxes during their lifetimes than they received in public benefits as of 1998; Due to immigrants' younger age profile compared to the "native" population, immigrants will contribute up to $500 billion to Social Security from 1998 to 2022. $500 billion?

Sorry, the numbers just don't add up.

Don't know where these figures come from, but to arrive at this $500 billion, one would have to "assume" that EVERY single one of the 12,000,000 Illegal Aliens, was working; earning an average of $12,500 a year for ALL of the 22 years, and they were ALL getting paid in the customary manner and had Income/SS taxes withheld.

Yeah, right!

21 posted on 06/14/2006 5:27:38 PM PDT by seasoned traditionalist
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To: garbageseeker
Ironically, the holder of a vast amount of tax exempt real estate wants the rest of us to pay more taxes. Oh well great gig if they get away with it.
22 posted on 06/14/2006 5:31:26 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: garbageseeker

USCCB is not the Catholic Church anymore than the ACLU is America.


24 posted on 06/14/2006 5:38:05 PM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: SunkenCiv

Mexican nationals may also vote to give themselves more benefits. Which would be a great boon to the party which supports abortion.


25 posted on 06/14/2006 5:51:13 PM PDT by after dark (I love hateful people. They help me unload karmic debt.)
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To: avg_freeper
Right , the church here is in real trouble , they need to expand there base. word is they are short on choir boys. I didn't realize you had to be a citizen to attend church.
26 posted on 06/14/2006 5:54:09 PM PDT by fantom
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To: All
Jesus said "Render Unto Caesar those things which are Caesar's and unto God those things are to God's.

Message: Keep politics separate from certain other fields such as religion. The United States Council of Bishops and other Catholic clergy such as Cardinal Roger Mahoney are not following this by taking a pro illegal immigrant stance.
27 posted on 06/14/2006 6:00:16 PM PDT by garbageseeker
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To: SunkenCiv
The predominantly Catholic immigrant wave could mean the overturn of Roe v Wade.

You obviously have never seen Border Politics in action. The Democrats run a Machine amoung Mexicans, Led by Liberal to Marxist, Mexicans. The immigrants believe anything they tell them because they are Mexican, we can't get the message out to the immigrants, first because of the language barrier, second they wouldn't believe us if they could understand us. The leaders of the Democrat Mexican political machines, support the most Pro Abortion Candidates out there, of course no mention of abortion is made, like in English they use feel good words.

My point is that there isn't any way Roe v Wade could be overturned by filling the country with Mexican voters.

28 posted on 06/14/2006 6:17:54 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: fantom
"they need to expand there base. word is they are short on choir boys

You've nicely demonstrated the typical level of discourse achieved at FreeRepublic on any subject concerning the Catholic Church.

And why few ever care to try and extinguish the flames of idiocy that inevitably result.

29 posted on 06/14/2006 6:22:34 PM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: SunkenCiv

Based on how recent immigrants, who are mostly Hispanic vote, especially in California, I think the opposite is true.


30 posted on 06/14/2006 6:35:45 PM PDT by RFT1
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To: c-b 1
My point is that there isn't any way Roe v Wade could be overturned by filling the country with Mexican voters.

There might be an increase in abortions.
31 posted on 06/14/2006 6:36:13 PM PDT by garbageseeker
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To: radar101

You do know that if you were raised a Catholic, and have since deserted the church, and it turns out the Catholics are correct over salvation/damnation, then you are less likely to get into heaven then the Baptist, because the Baptist didn't reject the truth of Catholicism because Baptists were never exposed to the truth. Someone who had the truth but then rejects it has no ground to stand for, there is no cover of ignorance, for they knew exactly what they were doing. This is why excommunication is so serious, because excommuniciation amounts to a sentence to hell. Not saying your going to hell, I'm just saying that Catholics should consider long and hard a decision they make to abandon the church, especially considering the church can prove that it's authority eminates from Jesus Christ himself.


32 posted on 06/14/2006 6:39:18 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (6-6-06 A victory for reason)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


33 posted on 06/14/2006 6:39:35 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: avg_freeper
"they need to expand there base. word is they are short on choir boys You've nicely demonstrated the typical level of discourse achieved at FreeRepublic on any subject concerning the Catholic Church.

I agree it was uncalled for.
34 posted on 06/14/2006 6:40:08 PM PDT by garbageseeker
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To: WOSG; La Enchiladita; Tammy8; Candor7; catholicfreeper


35 posted on 06/14/2006 6:47:14 PM PDT by garbageseeker
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To: AzaleaCity5691

Well, AzaleaCity5691, I kinda had my doubts when it was found that Jesuits were supporting the Communists in El Salvador (Strike 1) Then, priests were found to be molesting kids ( Strike 2...You can't be a perv, and be true to faith)The last strawis the Coucil of Bishops declaring that they will nopt follow the law, they will aid and abet criminals, and "WE should help the foreigners" (Strike 3)
These Bishops, Cardinals and Priests are no better than Fidel Castro. To me, they are like the modern day Pharisees and Sanhedrin.
Oh, yes, I have faith. But it is like this: Did the Pioneers have a church coming across the continent? Did the average soldier in the Civil War havce a church?
No, they didn't but they kept their faith and trusted in God.


36 posted on 06/14/2006 6:54:06 PM PDT by radar101 (The two hallmarks of Liberals: Fantasy and Hypocrisy)
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To: garbageseeker

I think most conservative Catholics are aware of this and disapprove of it.

This what is known as a prudential issue. The bishops have given their opinion, but it has no force, unlike the abortion issue. People can take it or leave it.

Frankly, the U.S. Council of Bishops is a loser, more often than not.

To be fair on the bishops, I believe they are supporting this position because they think it is the compassionate thing to do. I'm afraid they favor unlimited immigration, period.

The bishops are political dummies, for the most part. They should stick to what they understand. And, yes, I'm a Catholic.


37 posted on 06/14/2006 6:54:17 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
I think most conservative Catholics are aware of this and disapprove of it.

I do not hear any conservative Catholics speak up when Cardinal Mahoney, United States Conference or any member of the Catholic Church is meddling in the immigration affairs of the country. The silence is deafening.
38 posted on 06/14/2006 6:59:55 PM PDT by garbageseeker
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To: garbageseeker

I have a lot of catholic friends, and none of them like illegal immigration...so I'm just going to take this with a grain of salt.


39 posted on 06/14/2006 7:13:23 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Look at profile for current ways to deal with illegals immigration)
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To: fr_freak
If Pope Benedict comes out and says that God told him there should be amnesty for illegal aliens, then we'll take it seriously..

No, then there would be more ex-Catholics. I've already wised up. A long time ago.

40 posted on 06/14/2006 7:20:35 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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