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The Early Bird: Fossils Depict Aquatic Origins of Near-Modern Birds 115 Million Years Ago
University of Pennsylvania ^ | 15 June 2006 | Staff

Posted on 06/15/2006 11:39:26 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: colorado tanker
Aquatic birds, eh? Hmmm. Wonder if they were good to eat?

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Some aquatic birds can be a bit rank-tasting.

Went hunting with a Cajun once. He shot a bunch of coots (he called them, "pouldoo") and took them home for his wife to cook.

She cooked the breasts and legs for hours in a dark brown gravy with more onions than there was bird meat -- until the meat literally fell off the bones. She then picked off the meat, added it to the gravy and served it over rice.

The gravy and rice were quite good -- but the meat was still a little too strong-tasting for me...

My Cajun friend "seasoned" his gravy with lots of some clear stuff from a fruitjar; by the time the meal was over, he was enjoying everything... '-)

101 posted on 06/15/2006 5:28:19 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
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To: PatrickHenry

Nice piece, thanks.

I find the evolution of birds and the history of scientific opinion behind it, to be quite interesting.


102 posted on 06/15/2006 6:52:18 PM PDT by George - the Other (Ever notice how Narrow-Minded atheists are?)
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To: All
Another article with more information, from here: Missing Link in Birds Believed Found. Copied in full:

Separating the layers of sediment from an ancient lake was like turning the pages of a book to get a glimpse of life in the time of dinosaurs, an international team of scientists said Thursday. "A world lost for more than 100 million years was being revealed to us," said Hai-lu You of the Chinese Academy of Geological Sciences.

What they found is being called the missing link on the evolution of birds, a loon-like creature that lived in northwest China and is the earliest example of modern birds that populate the planet today.

Before their discovery, reported in Friday's issue of the journal Science, the only evidence for this creature - Gansus yumenensis - was a single, partial leg discovered in the 1980s.

Now researchers have dozens of nearly complete fossils of Gansus, said a beaming Matt Lamanna of the Carnegie Museum of Natural History in Pittsburgh.

"Most of the ancestors of birds from the age of dinosaurs are members of groups that died out and left no modern descendants. But Gansus led to modern birds, so it's a link between primitive birds and those we see today," Lamanna said.

Previously there was a gap between ancient and modern species of birds, and "Gansus fits perfectly into this gap," added Jerald D. Harris of Dixie State College in Utah.

It was about the size of a modern pigeon, but similar to loons or diving ducks, the researchers said. One of the fossils even has skin preserved between the toes, showing that it had webbed feet.

"We were lucky far beyond our expectations" in finding these fossils, added You.

"Gansus is the oldest example of the nearly modern birds that branched off of the trunk of the family tree that began with the famous proto-bird Archaeopteryx," said Peter Dodson of the University of Pennsylvania.

The remains were dated to about 110 million years ago, making them the oldest for the group Ornithurae, which includes all modern birds and their closest extinct relatives. Previously, the oldest known fossils from this group were from about 99 million years ago.

The fact that Gansus was aquatic indicates that modern birds may have evolved from animals that originated in aquatic environments, the researchers said.

"Our new specimens are extremely well preserved, with some even including feathers," Lamanna said. "Because these fossils are in such good condition, they've enabled us to reconstruct the appearance and relationships of Gansus with a high degree of precision. They provide new and important insight into the evolutionary transformation of carnivorous dinosaurs into the birds we know today."

The remains were found in an ancient lake bed near the town of Changma.

"We went to Changma hoping that we'd discover one, maybe two, fragments of fossil birds," he said. "Instead, we found dozens, including some almost complete skeletons with soft tissues."

The new fossil material "is remarkable for its excellent preservation. ... The new fossils demonstrate that Gansus clearly is a bird that spent much of its life looking for food in water," commented Hans-Dieter Sues, associate director for research and collections at the Smithsonian's National Museum of Natural History.

Gansus is an additional "link in a long chain of intermediate forms between Archaeopteryx, the oldest known bird from the late Jurassic, and modern birds," said Sues, who was not part of Lamanna's research team.

Funding for the research was provided by the Discovery Quest program for The Science Channel, Carnegie Museum of Natural History, Dixie State College of Utah, the Chinese Geological Survey and the Ministry of Science and Technology of China.

At one point during the field work, Lamanna told his colleagues he would eat a duck foot if they found the fossil they were seeking while the television camera crew was still there.

So, did they?

"It tasted sort of like chicken, but real rubbery," he recalled.

103 posted on 06/15/2006 6:54:30 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: PatrickHenry
But Gansus led to modern birds, so it's a link between primitive birds and those we see today," Lamanna said.

Previously there was a gap between ancient and modern species of birds, and "Gansus fits perfectly into this gap," added Jerald D. Harris of Dixie State College in Utah.

A transitional? But I thought those didn't exist!


Drat! Another one to explain away.

104 posted on 06/15/2006 7:02:54 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death--Heinlein)
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To: KMJames

...Then she's a witch!


105 posted on 06/15/2006 7:07:14 PM PDT by hail to the chief (Use your conservatism liberally)
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To: Coyoteman
A transitional? But I thought those didn't exist!

A creationist thread on this topic, with an article from a creationist website, calls this thing a fossilized duck. So I guess that decides it. Creationists can still claim that there are no transitionals.

106 posted on 06/15/2006 7:10:04 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Sorry, PH. The title got me on this one.

My first thought: But did it Get the WormTM?

Cheers!

107 posted on 06/15/2006 8:30:12 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: KMJames
If it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck...well...you know.

AFLAC!

108 posted on 06/15/2006 8:33:36 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: b_sharp
How many organisms that have wings and feathers but no heads do you know?

I don't know about wings and feathers, but you could start with the example of diplocaudus (tails on each end). ;-)

Cheers!

109 posted on 06/15/2006 8:35:53 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: b_sharp
How many organisms that have wings and feathers but no heads do you know?

I don't know about wings and feathers, but you could start with the example of diplocaudus (tails on each end). ;-)

Cheers!

110 posted on 06/15/2006 8:36:12 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Evolution would suggest that animals could exist without skulls or heads. I guess creationists know that God designed animals with heads, but with all the varied evolutionary paths, you'd think that some animal would have a brain in his butt and not need a skull.

The real point being that it isn't just SKULLS that evolutionists simply assume, and therefore would be shocked not to find. I'm sorry I forgot my audience.


111 posted on 06/16/2006 12:04:10 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

touche bump

LOL


112 posted on 06/16/2006 2:08:24 AM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Evolution would suggest that animals could exist without skulls or heads.

If you don't understand that the theory of evolution would not suggest the existence of vertebrates without heads, perhaps you should go study the topic more before trying to talk about it.

113 posted on 06/16/2006 3:21:41 AM PDT by ahayes ("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

If you're trying to make any sense you're failing miserably.


114 posted on 06/16/2006 4:34:24 AM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: colorado tanker
Aquatic birds, eh? Hmmm. Wonder if they were good to eat?

Tastes like chicken.

115 posted on 06/16/2006 4:36:34 AM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: Coyoteman

Thanks for posting the pic. FReegards,


116 posted on 06/16/2006 5:06:07 AM PDT by KMJames (Hyperbole is killing us.)
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To: PatrickHenry; Coyoteman

all the descriptions of the fossils/bones seem to uphold a null hypothesis of: there is no significant difference between these and modern waterfowl bones.


117 posted on 06/16/2006 5:12:33 AM PDT by flevit
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Evolution would suggest that animals could exist without skulls or heads.

This is a brainless post.

118 posted on 06/16/2006 5:18:48 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: flevit

Nope, reading the actual journal article they place Gansus basal to Carinatae and Neornithes, the clade of all modern birds. I don't know enough about bird skeletal structure to determine the differences, but they must be notable for it to be so far removed. It seems the key differences eliminating these from Carinitae and modern birds are the bony structures of the limbs.


119 posted on 06/16/2006 6:02:36 AM PDT by ahayes ("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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To: ahayes

"The five specimens described by Dodson and his colleagues had many of the anatomical traits of modern birds, including feathers, bone structure and webbed feet, although every specimen lacked a skull"

"must be notable" was not expressed in the article posted.


120 posted on 06/16/2006 6:12:17 AM PDT by flevit
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