Lando 
Posted on 06/16/2006 1:57:54 AM PDT by Albion Wilde
Left-wing nostalgia dies hard, but can it survive the events of this week?
It has been a tough 10 days for those who see current events through the prisms of Vietnam and Watergate...[snip]
Historians may regard it as a curious thing that the left and the press have been so determined to fit current events into templates based on events that occurred 30 to 40 years ago...[snip]
Journalists in the 1940s, '50s and early '60s tended to believe they had a duty to buttress Americans' faith in their leaders and their government. Journalists since Vietnam and Watergate have tended to believe that they have a duty to undermine such faith, especially when the wrong party is in office.
That belief has its perils for journalism, as the Fitzgerald investigation has shown...
(Excerpt) Read more at opinionjournal.com ...
Best political writer in America.
BTT
Good big-picture summation of recent events ping.
Lando
Thanks, Lando. I think I posted it too early in the morning (5 am eastern) for most people and it was swept off the front page. Live and learn!
Lando
ping
No hope, IMO
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NEVER FORGET
The Democrats taking advantage of WATERGATE in the 1974 Congressional Elections =
The Democrats trying to take advantage of the Iraq War in the 2006 Congressional Elections
For...
...after their winning the 1974 Congressional Elections the Democrats cut off all U.S. military & humanitarian aid to a an abandoned Free South Vietnam fighting for its own Freedom on its own, and it fell in 2 1/2 years.
The Senator FRANK CHURCH (D) Investigating Committee also assaulted our U.S. Intelligence Community so badly that we are still paying heavy prices, after our being attacked here at home in a new century. A Senator whose parents were connected directly to the Communist Party of America.
If the 2006 Congressional Elections turn out the same as 32 years ago...
...WE HAVE all HAD IT...
...and so has our Freedom.
For the Enemy is now Within...
...and always has been.
Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
Veteran-1st Major Battles of the Vietnam War 1965-66
http://www.WeWereSoldiers.com
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
NEVER FORGET
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No hope, IMO
I have to say, in spite of Clinton's disgusting behavior with women, I think the Kenn Starr prosecution was a very, very bad thing for the nation. Surely there were other things he did besides lie about an extramarital sleazefest, which almost anyone would do. The wholesale search for things to prosecute in every administration is the result. It may never end. It's bad for the country.
I totally agree with this point, and this is the scariest thing. Between the press, the Marxist universities and the media elites, we will be very lucky to avoid a melt-down. If not over this war, then there will be something else. The number of mindless socialists in this country now is appalling. People don't realize the price of freedom, and how fragile it is, when everyone is looking for a free lunch, and the corporations responsible for pricing consumer goods and providing employment security are behaving rapaciously.
To put it all in context, the Democraps started the criminalization of political differences with Nixon and later, Reagan. Payback is a bitch, but I think we can count on Democraps/Media/proffesoriate class to accelerate the race to the bottom. Thats what they do best.
That's a "when did you stop beating your wife" question, because Bush would never do such a thing.
As for Slick Willie, of course his behavior was reprehensible. But the prosecution started out over substantive charges and ended up over a lie that was forced out of him when his pecadillo was made public. Sometimes extremes, even in the search for "justice", are a bad thing. Are you aware that, as a result of the huge publicity Kenn Starr's questioning of Clinton received, massive numbers of middle school children began practicing oral sex and contracting sexually-transmitted diseases orally, because all that information was printed in the daily newspapers and explained to the prosecutor by our then-President?
I agree with both your points. But I continue to decry the prosecution of Clinton over a lie over a private pecadillo, when there were probably many public and political acts he did which were much more deserving of scrutiny and huge cost to the taxpayer to prosecute. Everybody already knew he was a sexual slimeball.
And I don't think that the Republicans should have stooped to the same level as the Democraps.
Yes, you are definitely missing something.
Thanks for the ping!
They didnt, IMO. What Nixon did was far less egregious than what Johnson did (who made millions and millions off his political connections(w/radio stations), stole elections, lied to get us into Vietnam, ok'd far worse political shennanigans than Watergate, and so on) If the economy wasnt so bad at the time, Nixon would never have been impeached, IMO.
OTOH, if Clinton were CEO of any major company in the world he would have been booted for what he did. His administration passed the discovery laws that were used to bring him down. His dishonesty and corruption were overt and egregious. This was not only political malfeasance, any honest observer would have to admit that.
But honestly.. : Bush lied people died, Bush is a murderer..etc..thats on the same level as prosecution for perjury? You have got to be kidding.
Nonstatist, I agree with your post that Nixon unfortunately participated in his own downfall. However, I cannot follow your leap that somehow that equates to the media's excoriation of Bush ("Bush lied, people died", etc). That's an entirely separate issue from the legal grounds for prosecuting an impeachment. In Clinton's case, I wish the grounds had been stronger, and for an offense clearly related to the national interest.
Although I've made clear on this thread that I found Clinton's personal behavior reprehensible, the case against him was weak. It made a very shaky impeachment, one that all the libertines (Democrats) in this nation could simply ignore and view as a railroading over something that was nobody else's business.
Danamco, you seemed to think that if I regretted the fallout from the Clinton impeachment, I was in favor of his actions. Nothing could be farther from the truth, and you can take your judgmentalism and repent it, frankly.
Many lawyers believed that his sexual life was a weak case to bring against a president, given the undeniable history of mistresses in the White House "under" Roosevelt, Kennedy and Johnson. With Democrats, it's practically a given -- this represents a different point of view politically, and when Republicans try to prosecute sexual morality against the backdrop of family collapse our courts have fomented, it makes us look like rigid theocrats, just as the left complains. Jesus is looking for true conversion, not outside coercion.
It would have been better to find a more legitimate issue on which to impeach Clinton, one that clearly involved the national interest, such as discovering a communist link in Lewinsky's background and casting her as an illegitmate presence in the Oval Office (this would have been difficult, given the Clinton's broad embrace of Marxism). But the weak case over a clumsy sexual affair not unlike so many of his predecessors in the office just made Republicans more vulnerable for payback.
Had the Republican power base decided not to risk a weak prosecution, it would not have meant that they, or I, condone Clinton's behavior. It would have meant they had the Christian virtue of self-control to wait until they had a more conclusive case with better issues and evidence that might have less angered the Democrats into payback mode.
He perjured himself in a court of law. If that isnt enough for you, you are an ignoramous of the law.
As far as Bush Lied, People Died goes.. If the Dems win the Congress, Articles of Impeachment will be forthcoming, including a vote on it. And "political differences" are the weakest rationale ever for Impeachment.
bfl
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HILLARY & BILL CLINTON =
...Pushing the City of Long Beach CA hard to turn our U.S. Long Beach Navy Base over to the China Army Gang's COSCO (China Overseas Shipping Company)...
...in exchange for the China Army money flowing thru the CLINTONS' palms in the private residence of the White House during the 1990's.
Only to be finally stopped in Congress by We the People thru Republican Senator INHOFE.
During this process Democrat Senators BOXER & FEINSTEIN, as well as Democrat Congresswoman LORETTA SANCHEZ, publically proclaimed that they were going to return the China Army money campaign contributions they had already been given. (SANCHEZ by JOHNNY CHUNG)
After this process, Chinagate's JAMES RIADY ended up testifying in U.S. Federal Court during his own plea bargain hearing in Los Angeles that...
...not a single nickel of the China Army money he had given to democrats had every been returned to him.
And Chinagate's JOHNNY CHUNG publically confirmed that Congresswoman LORETTA SANCHEZ had never returned a single nickel of China Army money he had passed on to her as well.
The Enemy is now Within...
...and always has been.
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Only to be finally stopped in Congress by We the People...
It's hard to believe how determined the Clinton's are
to get back in the White House!
Power is a terrrible drug.
The Starr investigation involved a lot more than sex and perjury was involved, got the bent once impeached..thats a decent outcome.
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NEVER FORGET
The CLINTONS are as determined to reenter our beloved Oval Office to destroy a Free America...
...as North Vietnam Dictator HO CHI MINH was determined to take over a Free South Vietnam and then...
...spread Godless Communisn throughout all of Southeast Asia.
For...
the Enemy is now within...
...always has been.
Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
Veteran-1st Major Battles of the Vietnam War 1965-66
(Vietnam War Photo Collection)
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
NEVER FORGET
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