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ALERT! CLINTONS CONTINUE ATTACK ON RELIGIOUS RIGHT
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| Mia T
Posted on 06/16/2006 4:33:27 AM PDT by Mia T
ALERT!
CLINTONS CONTINUE ATTACK ON RELIGIOUS RIGHT
- by Mia T, 6.15.06
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- "For ... the so-called Christian right and its allies, their great sin has been believing they were in full possession of the truth."
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bill clinton Tanenbaum Center For Interreligious Understanding* New York, New York, 16 June 2006
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* Note the irony
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WHY THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT MUST MOBILIZE AGAINST HILLARY: CLINTON CONFLATES EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS AND ISLAMO-FASCIST TERRORISTS
by Mia T, 03.16.06

It is wrong to demonize and cartoonize one another and ignore evidence and to make false charges and to bear false witness. Sometimes I think our friends on the other side have become the people of the Nine Commandments. It is wrong to bear false witness because we all see through [the] glass darkly....
We have a curious situation in American where the religious right has tried to turn all who disagree with them into two-dimensional cartoons. I read a very moving article in one of our newspapers a few days ago in which someone in the president's hometown said all the Democrats cared about was abortion, gay marriage, and being weak on defense....
[T]hese people really do believe they are in possession of absolute truths. You won't hear about it during this convention. They'll put up their other face. But the truth is that when it all comes down to it, a lot of the religious absolutists believe that all other issues are irrelevant, that all who disagree with them are somehow almost non human, certainly not deserving of basic consideration. Therefore it's nothing but right to concentrate wealth and power in the hands of those who share their values and to constantly assert that whatever position they decide to take is right regardless of the inconvenient evidence....
Our number one threat abroad is fundamentalism, absolutism. Terror is their tactic, but it is their ideas, their hatred, their absolute certainty that they are so right that they can kill people who disagree with them -- that is our enemy.
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'All of Us See Through the Glass Darkly' bill clinton sermon at Riverside Church before the start of the Republican convention, 2004

linton moral relativism meets an insidious balkanizing brand of clinton fundamentalism. The goal: to render the corrupt, treacherous, utter-failure clintons at once untouchable and empowered.
SERMON ON THE MAKE
Note that clinton made this despicable argument in a church. In a black church. So much for the separation of church and state. So much for racial equality and respect. Miss hillary's plantation prequel....
- Calculating a black man's worth to be 5/3 of a vote is no less racist, and arguably more so, than calculating his worth to be 3/5 of a white man; the latter is demeaning, but the former is dehumanizing.
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Mia T, 07.23.05 THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT? clinton legacy of lynching update
As for fundamentalism, note that no one is more doctrinaire than the clintons. If the Religious Right eschews science for faith, the clintons corrupt science* for dogma, treasure and power.
* More on that later....
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AFTERWORD: A note to the Religious Right
I am not arguing that you change your deeply held convictions. To the contrary.
Your convictions--the evangelical ethos-- is precisely my premise, my starting point. It is precisely why I cannot envision how you would doing anything to help elect hillary clinton, someone who is anathema to all you believe.
But that is exactly what you would be doing if, in the next presidential election, you stay home or vote for a 'Perot.' You don't have to physically pull the lever or mark the box or touch the square next to the name 'hillary clinton' to help elect her. To think otherwise is to play with your mind.
It is tempting to rationalize this issue... even to ignore it. It's a difficult issue. It's a dilemma. But rationalizing the issue won't make your actions morally right... and ignoring the issue won't make it go away.
The clintons equate the Religious Right with the islamo-fascist terrorists, with the enemy. They are attempting to transfer onto the Religious Right the hate and fear and disgust Americans feel for the islamo-fascist terrorists. To disseminate their vile invective, the clintons chose a church for the venue and what the they believe to be a vulnerable, easily demagogued population for the audience. (A population they've exploited forever.)
The purpose of this article is to inform you of the clintons' contemptible and dangerous scheme. To let you hear clinton for yourself.
It is critical that you know fully what the clintons think of you and to what extremes they are willing to go to harm you, to defeat you, to crush you.
You must not ignore or rationalize away this threat to your existence. As a Jew, I tend to be vigilant about such threats. I implore you to be vigilant, too. You must not make the same mistake my brethren made almost seven decades ago.
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HILLARY DOES JESUS "FURTHER EVIDENCE WHY SHE IS ONE OF THE MOST DESPICABLE POLITICIANS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW" by Mia T, 3.26.06
 From a Christian (Catholic) theologian:
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This is just further evidence of what, in my opinion, is why Hillary Clinton is one of the most despicable politicians that is out there right now in the sense that she's absolutely chameleonlike.
When she is pandering to the Left, she wants nothing to do with religion. She sounds like the ACLU. When she's voting against [the banning of] partial-birth abortion, I don't see her invoking the name of Jesus there because I'm sure she can't picture Jesus doing something like that. And she also knows it doesn't play with her far-left base.
And now she wants to pander to the center, so she starts invoking the name of Jesus.
And as a Christian, I'm offended by her use of Jesus for what I see as her very, very--uh--very self-interested political partisan ambition. I think this is simply a craven attempt to use the name of Jesus for political purposes....
To demonize either side of the immigration issue by invoking the name of Jesus is precisely the point..
This is an issue of prudential judgment that reasonable people can disagree about. They're weighing competing values--humanitarian values vs. values of national sovereignty in the age of terrorism. Neither side of this debate has the moral corner or the moral high ground.
Both sides have good points to make and to demonize the other side by invoking the name of Jesus [is despicable].
Larry Chapp, Ph.D. Professor of Theology The O'Reilly Factor
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WHY THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT MUST MOBILIZE AGAINST HILLARY: CLINTON CONFLATES EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS AND ISLAMO-FASCIST TERRORISTS
AFTERWORD: A Note to the Religious Right
GONE WITH THE WIND (miss hillary's 'plantation' blunder)
THE VOUCHER RANT OF MISS HILLARY: WHY THE WHIFF OF RACISM EXCEEDS THE WORDS
HILLARY CLINTON, DANGEROUS DEMAGOGUE WHAT IS HER VOUCHER RANT REALLY ABOUT ANYWAY?
HILLARY DOES JESUS "FURTHER EVIDENCE WHY SHE IS ONE OF THE MOST DESPICABLE POLITICIANS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW"
HILLARY VOTE FRAUD missus clinton uses Jesus
What's black and white and read all over and is more self-destructive than pre-9/11 thinking? Pre-clinton thinking, that's what.... Putting doctrinal purity ahead of making sure a defective and dangerous clinton never again controls this country is pre-clinton thinking. We no longer have the luxury of time or circumstance to massage our sensibilities, to indulge our indignations. We will not survive another clinton. (We may yet not survive the first one.)
THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY: HOW DECADES OF CLINTON DOUBLE-DEALING COMPROMISED OUR NATIONAL SECURITY
MISSING CLINTON AUDIO! 'Can we kill 'em tomorrow?' (+Albright-Fulbright-Nobel TERRORISM revelations)
THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT? clinton legacy of lynching update
For the children? the clintons ARE pornography downloads
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COPYRIGHT MIA T 2006
TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: balkanization; billclinton; clinton; conflation; fundamentalism; hillary06; hillary08; hillaryclinton; muslims; religion; religiousright; terror; terrorism; terrorists; wot
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posted on
06/16/2006 4:33:30 AM PDT
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Mia T
To: freema
thanx for the heads up :) ping
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posted on
06/16/2006 4:35:18 AM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: jla; WorkingClassFilth; Gail Wynand; Brian Allen; Lonesome in Massachussets; IVote2; Slyfox; ...
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posted on
06/16/2006 4:36:43 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
they were in full possession of the truth."
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They really are idiot, traitorous, evil, possessed, jealous, arrogant power mongering, Marxist, Machiavellian global government tyranny . . . creatures, aren't they.
No news there.
Thanks.
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posted on
06/16/2006 4:37:27 AM PDT
by
Quix
(PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
To: Mia T
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posted on
06/16/2006 4:38:32 AM PDT
by
E.G.C.
To: Quix
"They really are idiot, traitorous, evil, possessed, jealous, arrogant power mongering, Marxist, Machiavellian global government tyranny . . . creatures, aren't they. "
Ditto, Quix!!!
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posted on
06/16/2006 4:41:58 AM PDT
by
BikerGold
(Reliously Uncoooorrrrect...Reliously UUUUUUncorrect)
To: Quix
bump
We must focus not only on who they are, but on what they want to do.
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posted on
06/16/2006 4:43:00 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: jla; All
the so-called Christian right and its allies--clinton
Note the "so-called."
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posted on
06/16/2006 4:45:16 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
Absolutely we must focus on what they do, as well.
And what they do is in every way, every day with all their energy--they sell us down the river to a Marxist, Machiavellian, globalist tyranny, ruthless, rigid, narrow, homocidal, mass murdering evil government.
Wake up and smell the ovens, folks . . . they aren't that far off, at the rate the DIMRATS are trying to rush the world into the global government.
What suicidal lunacy so rampant in our country.
Mia, can you think of ANY historical government of any age--any culture of any recorded age . . . that was so wholesale suicidal as ours?
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posted on
06/16/2006 4:51:03 AM PDT
by
Quix
(PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
To: BikerGold
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posted on
06/16/2006 4:51:41 AM PDT
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Quix
(PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
To: Mia T
I think, to a relativist, believing anything is anathema. It is Okay to grab a Bible prop and go to church to placate the masses, but to have bible based convictions just isn't cool, at all. The pope has a new book, Values in an Age of Upheaval. I ordered it, and will be interested to read it. I think he is squaring off on this topic and has thought about it a lot.
If the Baptists do vote this week to take their children out of government schools, that together with books by the pope and Coulter may make for a long hot summer. :)
To: Mia T
National Socialists demonized Jews.
American Socialists demonize Christians.
To: Quix
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Alien Abductions, Flying Saucers + Other Weird Phenomena, c.1992-2000
- by Mia T, January 3, 2006
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THE ALIENS
- Mia T, June 9, 1999
- The only way they can win is to convince people that we're space aliens.
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bill clinton
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eggy Noonan's excellent piece in yesterday's Wall Street Journal is really the story of the death of democracy. At its core it is the description of the human double helix gone terribly awry, of a denatured protein grotesquely twisted, of two mutant, tangled strands of DNA, the basest imaginable of base pairs linked permanently, as firmly as guanine to cytosine, bill inexorably to hillary and conversely, doing what they do best, and doing it relentlessly.
Killing. Killing insidiously. Killing as they pose and pander and feel our pain. My only complaint is with Peggy Noonan's title. The Mad Boomer, doesn't begin to capture candidate clinton considered separately or even taken as the self-anointed "twofer," permanently conjoined at that cavity conspicuously empty except for ego, that place where brain and soul and guts and heart normally reside. This is not to say that she -- that they -- are not both quite mad and of that self-indulgent, arrogantly, ignorantly solipsistic age sandwiched flatly between yesterday's innocence and tomorrow's insouciance. Rather, it is that their madness and their boomerism don't even begin to explain their noxious influence: The cloying, internally inconsistent clinton calculus. The unspoken clinton threats. They permeate the atmosphere like a coiling miasma, choking off all freedom. Even in New York. Especially in New York.
- When she wrote "The New Colossus," Emma Lazarus hardly had in mind this pair of mutant, deadly, twisted aliens.
So forget Arkansas-Illinois carpetbaggery and standard issue muckraking. The clintons are aliens of quite another sort. They are extrinsic, not of this world. They are inhuman. They are dehumanizing. You may recall that the first act of this story of two degenerates maintained by iterating idiots, farce of farce ad infinitum, was generated quite by accident by iterated AlGoreRhythm, who, it should be noted, is now himself the object of iterated calculation by said degenerates who want iteration 2004 all for themselves. And thus the odd bit of bloody Gore in Act II: The ugly sight of a corrupt, bottom-heavy hillary self-impaled on the horns of a Treason-Dilemma- masquerading-as-a-Third-Term-Dilemma-masquerading-as-a-Senate-stampede, for example, or bill's recent unsolicited, underwhelming Times interview on the Gore candidacy. Act I was called "The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover." Ostensibly the tale of the wife of a bloodthirsty crime boss who finds romance with a bland bookseller between courses at her husband's restaurant, it was in fact the Thyestean and moveable -- yet unmoving -- feast of hillary clinton at her husband's sham restitution. (Note the reciprocity. The sham restitution in Act II is all hillary's.) Food, color coding, sex, murder, torture and cannibalism were the exotic (if mostly horizontal) fare in this beautifully filmed but brutally uncompromising modern memoir which passed as ancient fable about nouveau riche rapacity. Not for the faint at heart, Purple Hearts or queazy stomachs, this depiction of the gross debasement of America was heavily peppered with irony and dark humor throughout. Although she baked no cookies, didn't do illicit land or cattle deals and stood by no man, hillary clinton starred in the triple role of the Cook, the Thief and his Wife. Her lover was played at once vaporously and in workmanlike fashion by the ghost of Eleanor Roosevelt, with Janet Reno, between her stints rendering intermittent injustice for the Husband, as the reliable stand-in. Sidney Blumenthal was the stand-in for the Cook and Craig Livingstone the stand-in for the Thief. The last-minute addition of Christopher Hitchens as the snitch was a stroke of absolute genius notwithstanding its cerebral accident, its predictable-if-perfect pitch (or its facile alliteration). Although Act I had no rating, the new clinton soccer-mom directive will require a photo ID for any viewer without independent proof of illegal alien DNC <-> DNA sequencing.
In Act II, rabid anti-clinton voters, roughly 33% of the U.S. populace according to as-yet-unpodded pollsters, become increasingly aware that they are disappearing in droves and being replaced by alien pod replicas that have their physical attributes but lack all anti-clinton affect. If Act I was a thinly veiled allegory about naked clintonism, then Act II is a parable about the plan for world domination by the Establishment, aged hippies in pinstripes all, with their infantile, solipsistic world view amazingly untouched by time.
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posted on
06/16/2006 4:58:41 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
Actually, it is more like an attack on true Christians. The right-wing part is nothing but Clinton-speak.
To: Quix
Bill Clinton is acting like he is under conviction from the Holy Spirit. Guilt is spilling out all over the place.
I sincerely hope that he will return to the God of his youth and fully repent.
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posted on
06/16/2006 5:17:33 AM PDT
by
Coldwater Creek
("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
To: Neoliberalnot
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posted on
06/16/2006 5:19:17 AM PDT
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Coldwater Creek
("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
To: mariabush
I agree.
I think it's still possible for him to do so.
I'm not convinced it is, for her. May be. May not be.
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posted on
06/16/2006 5:33:14 AM PDT
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Quix
(PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
To: Quix
Only Mrs. Clinton knows for sure. Unless she has blasphemed the Holy Spirit, it is not too late, and should be our prayer that she might be saved.
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posted on
06/16/2006 5:36:10 AM PDT
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Coldwater Creek
("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
Comment #19 Removed by Moderator
To: Mia T
I don't want to misunderstand your comments, but Evangelicals base the truth solely on God's Word.
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posted on
06/16/2006 5:39:29 AM PDT
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Coldwater Creek
("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
To: mariabush; Neoliberalnot; All
The clintons are attacking Evangelical Christians specifically by equating them with the Islamo-fascist terrorists. Their tactic is conflation and their implicit argument is that fundamentalism is both a necessary and sufficient condition for terror.
"We have a curious situation in American where the religious right... really do believe they are in possession of absolute truths.... Our number one threat abroad is fundamentalism, absolutism. Terror is their tactic, but it is their ideas, their hatred, their absolute certainty that they are so right that they can kill people who disagree with them -- that is our enemy."HEAR bill clinton
'All of Us See Through the Glass Darkly'
sermon at Riverside Church
before the start of the Republican convention, 2004
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posted on
06/16/2006 5:42:07 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: mariabush
I forgot the quotation marks in 19. See corrected repost (#21).
The clintons fear the Religious Right politically, so they want to defeat them; they want to quash them. They are doing this by equating the RR with the islamofascist terrorists. How better to marshal American support?
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posted on
06/16/2006 5:48:32 AM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
Godless, to whom was Ann thinking when she wrote the book?
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posted on
06/16/2006 6:01:15 AM PDT
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bmwcyle
(Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
To: bmwcyle
[the clintons'] implicit argument is that fundamentalism is both a necessary and sufficient condition for terror ...seemingly oblivious to their own fundamentalist doctrine that is terrorizing for real.
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posted on
06/16/2006 6:11:48 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: bmwcyle
bump
Ever wonder if there's something a bit subliminal going on with the title... , i.e., Godless<-->Goddess, but that's for another day, another thread.... ;)
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posted on
06/16/2006 6:17:27 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
Unfortunately, there's also a far-left Christian contingent. Think the World Council of Churches, leftist elements in the priesthoods of the Catholics and Episcopalians, and ditto in the convents.
These are the people who give the Clintons cover.
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posted on
06/16/2006 6:23:49 AM PDT
by
cinives
(On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
To: Mia T
Kristinn use to live down the street from the Methodist Church as Bill and Hill walked out on Sunday with the Bible with big letters. It always was when Bill was in the biggest trouble.
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posted on
06/16/2006 6:37:51 AM PDT
by
bmwcyle
(Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
To: Mia T
"For ... the so-called Christian right and its allies, their great sin has been believing they were in full possession of the truth." Clinton, a Southern Baptist,
Uh, well, Bill, I'm not a Southern Baptist, but I'd wager most of them believe they possess an absolute Truth. Otherwise, why bother calling yourself a Southern Baptist? Part of the fence-straddling plan to get maximum popularity and votes? And you wanna talk about truth?
Mote --------> Beam.
Miabump
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posted on
06/16/2006 6:48:08 AM PDT
by
FlyVet
To: bmwcyle
with the Bible with big letters--bmwcyle
THE CLINTONS' MOTTO:
'If the camera can't see the prop, you don't have the prop'
A Scoundrel's Pythagorean Imperative
Mia T, 12.14.03

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And the usual droning-when-not-screeching,11 midwestern-twanged-except-when-g-droppin'-preachin'-to-blacks-or-rubes 7 missus clinton was her usual arrogant, banal self, a familiar affect, which she invariably punctuates--just in case--with congruous and correspondingly condescending thematic attire.
Gingham-cum-flag-pin is her standard rube/red-state garb. 8 Predictably, missus clinton donned a mandarin-collared shirt--no flag pin in sight--to pander to the Asian-infused, ultra-left-wing San Francisco set. But she forgot, apparently, to look in the mirror: The image on the screen was more Mao than mandarin 9.
Yet some would argue, perversely, that the Mao look was, in fact, precisely what made her choice of attire absolutely perfect.
This is the first in a series of (oops!) inadvertent disclosures made by the not very swift missus clinton during her chitchat with Jane Pauley in the city by the bay.
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ON THE FICTIONALIZED MEMOIR by Mia T, 2.10.06
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posted on
06/16/2006 6:58:53 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: FlyVet
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posted on
06/16/2006 7:03:47 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
Does it take her a long time to get ready in the morning to be so phony or does it just come naturally?
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posted on
06/16/2006 7:11:02 AM PDT
by
bmwcyle
(Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
To: Mia T
..their great sin has been believing they were in full possession of the truth."
clinton WAS in full possession of the truth. However, 'carrying' it to church is a prop, since it hasn't reached his heart.
According to willyboy, since no one possesses full truth, one cannot be accountable for sinning. Seems like willyboy is 'trying' to give himself and his godless crowd an out. What a tool of satan, he is. Subtly, holding a bible as a 'shield' of protection to sin.
Since victimhood has been exposed recently, it may have lost it's flavor as a shield; they now use the 'bible' while denying the contents. A direct jab at Ann's book 'Godless'. They are using every shield possible to drag down this nation into the pit through lies - being a pawn themselves by the 'father of lies'.
To: Mia T
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posted on
06/16/2006 7:47:00 AM PDT
by
HarleyLady27
(My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
To: presently no screen name
According to willyboy, since no one possesses full truth, one cannot be accountable for sinning.--presently no screen name
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As you imply in the rest of your post, I think his thinking goes more like this:
- Since no one possesses full truth, HE cannot be held accountable for his sinning.
- PREFACE: Why 'THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY'
It is wrong to demonize and cartoonize one another and ignore evidence and to make false charges and to bear false witness. Sometimes I think our friends on the other side have become the people of the Nine Commandments. It is wrong to bear false witness because we all see through [the] glass darkly.-
'All of Us See Through the Glass Darkly' bill clinton sermon at Riverside Church before the start of the Republican convention, 2004
'Through a glass darkly' is bill clinton's favorite biblical metaphor and his fixers' spin-of-last-resort.
When properly misconstrued, the phrase at once captures and effectuates the clinton con perfectly, placing clinton conveniently beyond the reach of criticism, impeachment (figuratively speaking), and, most important, punishment.
- It is wrong to bear false witness because we all see through [the] glass darkly.--bill clinton
Notice the tenuous, self-serving logic here. Notice how clinton slyly implies that because we all see through a glass darkly, we are unable to see the truth (about him)--ever, all charges past, present and future (against him) are necessarily indeterminable and, therefore, false, and it is wrong, therefore, to bring any charge (against him), ever.* So, for example, while all the evidence and all the contemporaneous accounts of all the witnesses support the charge that bill clinton raped Juanita Broaddrick and that hillary clinton aided and abetted that rape, we must throw out all the evidence and all the witnesses and keep two rapists in the Oval Office. Excellent.
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posted on
06/16/2006 7:53:00 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
Notice the tenuous, self-serving logic here. Notice how clinton slyly implies that because we all see through a glass darkly, we are unable to see the truth (about him)--ever, all charges past, present and future (against him) are necessarily indeterminable and, therefore, false, and it is wrong, therefore, to bring any charge (against him), ever.*
BUMP!!
To: HarleyLady27
There's a method to his madness. He--they--are dangerous.
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posted on
06/16/2006 7:57:55 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: mariabush
Sometimes, rarely, The Lord will tell a strong Believer if He doesn't want that person to pray for the concernerned individual any longer. There can be various reasons for that. And, some people can cross the line of no return--though I think it's usually harder than most think.
I think/feel that Shrillery has been so fiercely rebellious against God and devoted to satan for so long--that she has likely crossed that line.
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posted on
06/16/2006 9:49:40 AM PDT
by
Quix
(PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
To: Quix
I agree with your theology, I just hope that you are wrong.
God says, that He is not willing that any should perish. Thank goodness that He a patient God.
I have always felt that when there is no more hope, He will immediately do away with a person.
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posted on
06/16/2006 10:22:37 AM PDT
by
Coldwater Creek
("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
To: mariabush
Thanks, Thanks Thanks.
I don't succeed at 'guessing God's mind' on such matters very often. I think . . . anyway.
Certainly agree with the Scripture and God's patience. Otherwise I'd have been sunk many times.
I don't think He always does away with the person. Though sometimes I've prayed that he
1. Change them; Redeem them
2. Move them away from the situation and hurting others so much
and/or at HIS discretion and priorities . . .
3.take them out of this life.
Have been surprised how often He's done the latter within a few months to a year in a situation that had gone on maybe a decade or more.
I don't understand about His bothering so well with our prayers so much--other than His love and giving us a part in His majestic plan for our benefit . . . so magnanimously.
I do believe He takes some folks out prematurely to what they'd otherwise have had because He doesn't want them to rack up more punishment by staying around longer and doing more horrid things. And, I think our prayers can have a part in that sometimes.
Plenty of mysteries to learn about on the other side.
39
posted on
06/16/2006 11:29:10 AM PDT
by
Quix
(PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
To: Mia T
Endowed by their enablers.
Peddle your nonsense Bill.
Run Hillary Run!
40
posted on
06/16/2006 9:38:55 PM PDT
by
PGalt
To: Mia T
""We have a curious situation in American where the religious right... really do believe they are in possession of absolute truths.... Our number one threat abroad is fundamentalism, absolutism. Terror is their tactic, but it is their ideas, their hatred, their absolute certainty that they are so right that they can kill people who disagree with them -- that is our enemy." HEAR bill clinton
'All of Us See Through the Glass Darkly'
sermon at Riverside Church
before the start of the Republican convention, 2004
I guess Bill answered the question I asked during the 2004 DNC Bidden speech. (See below)
Transcript:
Our friends on the other side love to quote the Bible.
Just as Joshua's trumpets brought down the walls of Jericho, just as American values brought down the Berlin Wall,
So will radical Fundamentalists fall to the terrible swift power of our ideas as well as our swords.
41
posted on
06/16/2006 9:52:26 PM PDT
by
DocRock
To: Mia T
Keep a handy supply of
this
to wash away the Clinton stench!
42
posted on
06/16/2006 10:01:40 PM PDT
by
kstewskis
("Aim small, miss small...." Benjamin Martin to Nathan and Samuel)
To: kstewskis
The Holy water was used and there was a response.
43
posted on
06/16/2006 10:04:41 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: A CA Guy; Mia T
LOL!
Before Holy Water:

During:

After:
44
posted on
06/16/2006 10:54:54 PM PDT
by
kstewskis
("Aim small, miss small...." Benjamin Martin to Nathan and Samuel)
To: kstewskis

Was this a picture of Vince Foster after his death when he dragged himself to that park?
45
posted on
06/16/2006 10:58:08 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: A CA Guy
LOL, you guessed!
You can tell by the brown leaves it's laying next too...
46
posted on
06/16/2006 11:38:04 PM PDT
by
kstewskis
("Aim small, miss small...." Benjamin Martin to Nathan and Samuel)
To: DocRock; jla; All
Excellent! And confirmatory. Thx for the video.
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"We have a curious situation in American where the religious right... really do believe they are in possession of absolute truths.... Our number one threat abroad is fundamentalism, absolutism. Terror is their tactic, but it is their ideas, their hatred, their absolute certainty that they are so right that they can kill people who disagree with them -- that is our enemy."
HEAR bill clinton 'All of Us See Through the Glass Darkly' sermon at Riverside Church before the start of the Republican convention, 2004
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"Our friends on the other side love to quote the Bible. Just as Joshua's trumpets brought down the walls of Jericho, just as American values brought down the Berlin Wall, so will radical fundamentalists fall to the terrible swift power of our ideas as well as our swords."
HEAR Joe Biden 2004 DNC speech
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It is clear that Biden, like clinton, is conflating the Religious Right and the islamofascist terrorist. Otherwise:
- Biden would not have referenced the Religious Right. He would have fingered the terrorists.
- He would not have referenced the Old Testament. He would have quoted the Koran.
- And he would not have used the term 'radical fundamentalists' in his conclusion. He would have used 'terrorists' or 'islamofascist terrorists,' i.e., 'so will the terrorists (or islamofascist terrorists) fall to the terrible swift power of our ideas as well as our swords.'
The clintons and the Left fear the Religious Right politically. At a minimum, the strategy of the clintons and the Left is to marginalize the Religious Right. In the end, their plan is to quash them. The clintons and the Left will continue to attack Evangelical Christians by equating them with the islamofascist terrorists. (How better to get the support of all other Americans?) Their tactic is conflation and their implicit argument is that fundamentalism is both a necessary and sufficient condition for terror; that the Religious Right are terrorists and must, therefore, be quashed.
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47
posted on
06/17/2006 4:38:37 AM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: DocRock; jla; All
BTW, the clintons and the Left are working an alternative scheme simultaneously: to split the Religious Right off from the GOP by offering up a Perot or a surrogate Perot in the form of a 'values' issue.
The clintons' and the Left's ultimate goal is to quash the RR, but short range, they look to minimize the RR's value to the GOP. They will do this by splitting them off in the voting booth and by marginalizing them in the public square.
48
posted on
06/17/2006 4:49:59 AM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
["For ... the so-called Christian right and its allies, their great sin has been believing they were in full possession of the truth."]
This from the mouth of a man who also said "it depends what the meaning of is, is"?
He and his followers are liars and fools and who continue to rob, kill and destroy all good things that this once Christian nation provided by the protections and rights of the everlasting and one true God and his anointed one, Jesus Christ by the American forefathers who knew such evil men would try to destroy America from within. The Clinton's are of them that believe there is no moral absolutes (that is, no God) and therefore continue their assaults on the blood bought Constitutional liberties and privileges afforded to Americans by the Bill of Rights, they and the atheist left continue to destroy America from within and would steal it's sovereign rights and monies with the help of the communist ACLU and the U.N.
49
posted on
06/17/2006 5:11:40 AM PDT
by
ohhhh
(...every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.)
To: ohhhh
on the way out. will respond later... :)
50
posted on
06/17/2006 6:22:27 AM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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