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US divided by superhighway plan
Scotsman ^ | June 16, 2006 | Craig Howie

Posted on 06/16/2006 10:20:30 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A MASSIVE road four football fields wide and running from Mexico to Canada through the heartland of the United States is being proposed amid controversy over security and the damage to the environment.

The "nation's most modern roadway", proposed between Laredo in Texas and Duluth, Minnesota, along Interstate 35, would allow the US to bypass the west coast ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach to import goods from China and the Far East into the heart of middle America via Mexico, saving both cost and time.

However, critics argue that the ten-lane road would lay a swathe of concrete on top of an already over-developed transport infrastructure and further open the border with Mexico to illegal immigrants or terrorists.

According to a weekly Conservative magazine published in the US, the US administration is "quietly yet systematically" planning the massive highway, citing as a benefit that it would negate the power of two unions, the Longshoremen and Teamsters.

Another source claimed the highway was a "bi-partisan effort" with support from both Republicans and Democrats that would reduce freight transport times across the nation by days.

Under the plan - believed to be an extension of a strategic transportation plan signed in March last year by the US president, George Bush, Paul Martin, the then prime minister of Canada, and Vincente Fox, the Mexican president - imported goods would pass a border "road bump" in the Mexican port of Lazaro Cardenas, before being loaded on to lorries for a straight run to a major hub, or "SmartPort", in Kansas, Oklahoma.

Border guards and customs officers would check the electronic security tags of lorries and their holds at a £1.6 million facility being built in Kansas City, before sending them on to the road network that links the US cities of Chicago, Minneapolis and Detroit with Ottawa, Winnipeg and Vancouver across the Canadian border.

Rail tracks and pipelines for oil and natural gas would run alongside the road.

Following the release of a 4,000-page environmental study, construction of the first leg of the Trans-Texas Corridor is reportedly due to begin next year, backed by US state and governmental agencies and a Spanish private sector company, Concessions de Infraestructuras de Transporte.

Tiffany Melvin, the executive director of Nasco, a non-profit organisation which has received £1.4 million from the US Department of Transport to study the proposal, said: "We're working on developing the existing system; these highways were developed in the 1950s and we have number of different programmes we're working on to provide alternative fuels and improve safety and security issues.

"We get comments that we are working to bring in terrorists and drug dealers, but this is simply not true.

"This is a bi-partisan effort that will ultimately improve our transportation infrastructure.

"Trade with China is increasing greatly, and the costs of our transportation system are ultimately born by the consumer.

"We do offer links to Canada and Mexico, but we are working on the trade competitiveness of America. We are planning for the future."

Eric Olson, the transportation spokesmen for the California-based Sierra Club, a national environmental awareness organisation, said the road would cause significant damage.

"Something on that scale would have a massive environmental impact," he said.

"Building a large-scale new highway does not seem like the best solution.

"There is a great need for fixing our existing roads and bridges. That needs to be a priority before we start building new massive road projects."


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1 posted on 06/16/2006 10:20:37 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Take a damn plane if you have to go that far.

Better yet, stay home.


2 posted on 06/16/2006 10:21:49 AM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; Angelwood; ...

General and Trans-Texas Corridor Mega-PING!


3 posted on 06/16/2006 10:22:27 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

One World Dim/RINO BS.


4 posted on 06/16/2006 10:22:27 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This isn't about negating the unions are bypassing ports. It's about making the US, Canada and Mexico part of a big EU-style organization that eliminates the US' borders.

That's why Bush won't do anything substantive about immigration.


5 posted on 06/16/2006 10:23:52 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And the tens of billions of dollars needed to fund this will come from????


6 posted on 06/16/2006 10:24:16 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
According to a weekly Conservative magazine published in the US, the US administration is "quietly yet systematically" planning the massive highway, citing as a benefit that it would negate the power of two unions, the Longshoremen and Teamsters.

Another source claimed the highway was a "bi-partisan effort" with support from both Republicans and Democrats that would reduce freight transport times across the nation by days.

Under the plan - believed to be an extension of a strategic transportation plan signed in March last year by the US president, George Bush, Paul Martin, the then prime minister of Canada, and Vincente Fox, the Mexican president - imported goods would pass a border "road bump" in the Mexican port of Lazaro Cardenas, before being loaded on to lorries for a straight run to a major hub, or "SmartPort", in Kansas, Oklahoma.

Any idea what Conservative magazine this article is making reference to? Just curious.

7 posted on 06/16/2006 10:26:09 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: OB1kNOb
I think the Headline is kinda of amusing. "American divided over Highway" sort of like in the same vein as "America divided on Iraq". Hmm I don't think so. I am sure as we see on here people have strong passions but 90 percent of Americans don't know about and probably don't really care.
8 posted on 06/16/2006 10:29:36 AM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; A. Pole; Willie Green; chimera; doug from upland
According to a weekly Conservative magazine published in the US, the US administration is "quietly yet systematically" planning the massive highway, citing as a benefit that it would negate the power of two unions, the Longshoremen and Teamsters.

As reprensible as some unions, notably these two, have sometimes been, they have been pretty good about ensuring dock-security.

So, the Administration is now more or less openly admitting it is AT WAR against duly-constituted, legal representation, of the U.S. labor for imports.

Sounds like WalMart et al. is behind this scam...and the Administration is in violation of its oathe of office...an office which it has apparently sold to the Import Lobby.

Smooth move, Einsteins.

Political suicide that will tie right into the Illegal Alien issue...and slide it into the populace finally recognizing that the whole of the country is being betrayed and we have a Government that is Of the Aliens, by the Aliens, and for the Aliens.

9 posted on 06/16/2006 10:29:50 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: OB1kNOb

Or why we are all getting our panties in a bunch over more "un-named sources" reports? Anyone got any actual FACTS about this?


10 posted on 06/16/2006 10:33:12 AM PDT by Uriah_lost (http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
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To: Paul Ross

I'd love to eliminate these unions, but not at the cost of hundreds of billions of dollars.


11 posted on 06/16/2006 10:34:18 AM PDT by billybudd
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To: Non-Sequitur
And the tens of billions of dollars needed to fund this will come from????

Isn't gasoline currently taxed by the Federal government?

12 posted on 06/16/2006 10:34:55 AM PDT by MSSC6644
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To: OB1kNOb

I'm assuming the magazine is Human Events, which has done at least one Jerome Corsi story about the nascent North American Union. Either that or Worldnet Daily.


13 posted on 06/16/2006 10:35:34 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The EPA wants/has imposed speed limits in certain areas.

I don't want this.


14 posted on 06/16/2006 10:35:50 AM PDT by greasepaint
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To: Non-Sequitur

"And the tens of billions of dollars needed to fund this will come from????"


The oil we're pumping out of Iraq.


15 posted on 06/16/2006 10:36:02 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If they can get on the highway in Mexico and aren't allowed to leave it until they get to Canada, I'm for it.


16 posted on 06/16/2006 10:36:35 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Islamic Terrorists, the Mainstream Media and the Democrat Party Have the Same Goals in Iraq.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
China's Highways Go the Distance

America's interstates brought prosperity and change. China's are doing the same. Many of those using the new roads are migrant workers who have left villages and farms for jobs in booming urban China. The government estimates at least 140 million rural Chinese have left the countryside for the bright lights of the city.

Gas stations and motels are springing up along the expressways to service the growing traffic volume. Hou's two-week trip cost him $125 a day for gas, a room and tolls. "The toll operators are the only robbers left on the roads," he says


What will happen here:

Many of those using the new roadstrans texas corridor are migrant workers who have left villages and farms for jobs in booming urban China USA. The government estimates at least 140 million rural Chinese latinos have left the countryside for the bright lights of the city.
17 posted on 06/16/2006 10:37:08 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I am concerned that our Interstate Highway system, which is a military highway, will be compromised by the TTC, and built and controlled by a foreign firm.

The interstate highway system was built to move whole armys from coast to coast and border to border very quickly. The TTC will cut across that highway system, severing every major east-west Interstate.

Like the Panama canal being controlled by the Chinese-Panamanian interests, we now are giving away our infrastructure to foreign interests.
18 posted on 06/16/2006 10:37:36 AM PDT by Lokibob (Spelling and typos are copyrighted. Please do not use.)
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To: Uriah_lost

You can FReepmail hedgetrimmer for more links on the NAFTA superhighway and other building blocks of the nascent North American Union.


19 posted on 06/16/2006 10:37:51 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The "nation's most modern roadway", proposed between Laredo in Texas and Duluth, Minnesota, along Interstate 35, would allow the US to bypass the west coast ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach to import goods from China and the Far East into the heart of middle America via Mexico, saving both cost and time.

A Mexican job program paid for by Uncle Sam.

A ten lane highway into the US from Mexico will bring in how many illegals daily.

20 posted on 06/16/2006 10:38:37 AM PDT by RJL
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
would allow the US to bypass the west coast ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach to import goods from China and the Far East into the heart of middle America via Mexico, saving both cost and time.

Anybody seen the plans/funding *completion* dates for mexico's part of this superhighway (from h*ll)???.....a country that *can't* fund free HS educations now has funds for cross-country *superhighway* ??

"We get comments that we are working to bring in terrorists and drug dealers, but this is simply not true.

Guess we'll just post road signs NO terrorists/drug smugglers/illegals.....that'll stop 'em.

21 posted on 06/16/2006 10:38:52 AM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: Lokibob

I seriously doubt that this highway will sever interstates. They'll just use underpasses or overpasses.


22 posted on 06/16/2006 10:39:42 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: hedgetrimmer

So if we don't build the road our illegal immigration problem will be solved?


23 posted on 06/16/2006 10:40:21 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; GOP_1900AD; aruanan
Tiffany Melvin: "Trade with China is increasing greatly, and the costs of our transportation system are ultimately born by the consumer."

Oh, boo hoo! Boo hoo!

Chinese imports of WalMart, Home Depot,Ace Hardware etc. aren't cheap enough for the "consumer."

We sure know it isn't the EXPORT LOBBY pushing for this. Nor is it the poor down-trodden "consumers." Let's do a poll of those "consumers". I am willing to bet that given a choice between retaining sovereignty and jobs, the "consumer"...just might say to hell with this shit! And the Administration that backs it!

I am so sick of these phoneys speaking for the 'consumers.' Let's be blunt about it. They are are trying to divide America. By stressing "consumption" they are trying to get CITIZENS to forget that they are citizens-first, and consumers a distant second (at least that is how a true patriot should feel).

24 posted on 06/16/2006 10:40:40 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This is all about the "North American Union". This plan has been in the works for years but it's been under the radar of the general public. I hope it's not too late to stop this Utopian crap because it will be the end of the country if it's not stopped.


25 posted on 06/16/2006 10:43:11 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Paul Ross
According to a weekly Conservative magazine published in the US…

So, the Administration is now more or less openly admitting…

It's possibly true, but, from an “unnamed magazine” to the “administration… is admitting” is a bit of a stretch.

26 posted on 06/16/2006 10:45:17 AM PDT by RJL
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Tollway taxes on common citizen's travel is a growing global phenomenon.

'Tolls: The Mayors are taking the wrong action'
Thursday, 26 January 2006, 5:37 pm
Press Release: Residents Action Movement
26 January 2006

RAM-Residents Action Movement

'Tolls: The Mayors are taking serious and wrong actions'

"The Mayors of Auckland City, Waitakere City and Manukau City are taking serious and wrong actions when asking Government to give Councils the power to toll existing roads" says Elaine West, representative of RAM ­ Residents Action Movement.

The Mayor of Auckland City, Dick Hubbard, did NOT take a stand at local body elections saying that he would lobby Council and the Government to toll new and old roads across the Auckland region. Yet as Mayor, Dick Hubbard has so far proposed HOT (high occupancy lane tolls) and cordon tolls.

"He should do his homework and check the facts that RAM has already presented to ACC, the ARC, and the Auckland Regional Land Transport Strategy Committee," said Ms West.

TEN TOLL FACTS

FACT 1. Social and Economic Impact of Tolls on Workers Across the Auckland Region. The results of a preliminary study carried out by officials in November 2003 on the Auckland work-stream warned that tolls will likely have a negative impact on those who can least afford them, being - low and middle income earners, students, the elderly, those who do not live close to work and those who are not close to public transportation. In addition, tolls will probably cause house prices to rise near work centres.

FACT 2. Low income workers tend to travel greater distances across Auckland than other groups and will be most disadvantaged if tolls, cordon or other, are introduced.

FACT 3. Tolls will likely have serious consequences for families with children and those with high overheads such as mortgages. And incidental to the study, businesses will likely pass toll charges onto consumers, pushing up the cost of living in food stuffs etc.

FACT 4. The CEO of the MoT and Secretary of Transport Dr ROBIN DUNLOP, has strongly advocated for tolls in the past - as co-author of Road Reform, The Way Forward (1997), and a few years ago within an opinion paper to the World Bank suggesting that New Zealand roads will probably be tolled in the future.

FACT 5. A visiting professor said last year, that it was almost impossible to conduct an audit on Britain's toll regime. Issues involve the deliberate lack of transparency and accountability on the part of Government and private sector investors. The public lose out.

FACT 6. The Mayors are pushing for a toll regime that potentially will line the pockets of Councils, Government and private sector corporations and interests. Predictably, the Government study on tolls due for publication this year will show tolls to be a viable means of raising funds for land transport. Officials are key stakeholders with a vested interest.

FACT 7. I organised and was a representative at a public meeting with ACC, ARC, Transit, Transfund and local iwi (invited) on the Victoria Park Tunnel (SH1) issue in 2003. It was at this meeting that Transit agreed to a tunnel given adequate funding. At the time, Auckland's Mayors, Councils and Government were working on tolls to pay for new roads and changes to the Resource Management Act, behind doors closed to the public.

FACT 8. Over the last 20 years, the New Zealand public demanded successive governments pay for land transport infrastructure using existing road user charges which are petrol taxes. For 20 years, successive governments have ignored the public's request and used around half the billions of dollars collected in petrol excise taxes for other expenditure.

Ordinary people ARE paying their fare share but politicians are continually devising new ways to squeeze more from citizen's pockets. Also, the call for weight given to public transportation funds in comparison to road building for toll production goes unheeded.

FACT 9. Mayors Dick Hubbard (ACC), Sir Barry Curtis (MCC) and Bob Harvey (WCC) seem to have no idea about the toll-trap that New Zealanders will fall into if they go about fund-raising as they propose. Mayors without common sense are useless leaders at best, and at worst, will likely lead us into a financial quagmire from which we cannot escape.

FACT 10. Do the Mayors of ACC, MCC and WCC know that government is investigating getting overseas companies (countries?) to manage New Zealand's toll accounts? If not, then why not and what other facts have they missed before pushing tolls onto the innocent public? Serious factors such as New Zealanders' rights and civil liberties must come into play.

Ms West concludes "Is it a wonder that New Zealanders in their droves, rush overseas to live? These are people this country needs ­ workers, many highly-skilled - families, and young people. They've had a gutsful. And who can blame them? When will politicians listen to the people they represent and get the message?"
27 posted on 06/16/2006 10:45:21 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

AS I understand it, the TTC will be a toll road. And the tolls going to the people that constructed it (Spain). Now, to make a toll road, you need gates, toll booths, and ways to prevent cars from NOT getting on the highway without paying.

Do you really think Spain will allow our Army to drive on their Highway???


28 posted on 06/16/2006 10:45:45 AM PDT by Lokibob (Spelling and typos are copyrighted. Please do not use.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Why would Mexicans want to move to Duluth ?


29 posted on 06/16/2006 10:46:46 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BTTT


30 posted on 06/16/2006 10:49:27 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Non-Sequitur

"And the tens of billions of dollars needed to fund this will come from????"

Your wallet, perhaps?


31 posted on 06/16/2006 10:51:08 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

this article is a parody or a joke right? this is the stupidest idea i've ever heard.


32 posted on 06/16/2006 10:51:35 AM PDT by Element187
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To: Non-Sequitur
And the tens of billions of dollars needed to fund this will come from????

Good Question !!

My question.....where is mexico going to get their tens of billions for their own cross-county superhighway ???

33 posted on 06/16/2006 10:51:38 AM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: DustyMoment

Exactly.


34 posted on 06/16/2006 10:51:52 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

"Why would Mexicans want to move to Duluth ?"

The weather? The Lake Superior beaches?


35 posted on 06/16/2006 10:53:02 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

'Cause they hvae larger tax-supported handouts?


36 posted on 06/16/2006 10:53:24 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
These people are real visionaries dontcha know. Can't they even believe that maybe, just maybe we may have a better form of transportation by the time this stupid thing is completed?

Friggin idiots.

37 posted on 06/16/2006 10:53:25 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: 1rudeboy

This road is the greatest threat to the Republic since the Civil War if you didn't realize it. Actually I suspect that this is a issue that a certain unnamed Congressman will hitch his wagon too once Americans get tired of hearing about immigration.

I think I am going to see if the Scotsman has a letter to the Editors section and advise them that their Newspaper is starting to quote sources from Koolaid ville.


38 posted on 06/16/2006 10:53:56 AM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: Non-Sequitur

"And the tens of billions of dollars needed to fund this will come from????"

Grandma's social security check.


39 posted on 06/16/2006 10:55:49 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats - The reason we need term limits)
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To: MineralMan

You know they're really from out of town when they bring swim wear to Thompsonite Beach.


40 posted on 06/16/2006 10:55:53 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: BnBlFlag

Forget it, Washington Republicans and Democrats alike consider us so unsophisticated, uneducated, uninformed that it's not worth their time to ask for our opinion or approval. Just keep paying your taxes and watching American Idol, and they'll take care of running the country for us.


41 posted on 06/16/2006 10:56:04 AM PDT by Small-L (I love my country, but I despise the politicians who run (ruin) it.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Ah, I forgot about those articles. You're probably correct. Thanks. - OB1


42 posted on 06/16/2006 10:56:22 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

lots of liberals need lawn services.


43 posted on 06/16/2006 10:56:49 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!)
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To: Lokibob
"Do you really think Spain will allow our Army to drive on their Highway???"

You don't frighten us, English pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottoms, son of a silly person!
Ah blow my nose at you, so-called "Arthur Keeeng"! You and all your silly English Knnnnnnnn-ighuts!!!

44 posted on 06/16/2006 10:56:54 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Lokibob
Do you really think Spain will allow our Army to drive on their Highway???

What are they going to do? Send the Spanish military over here to STOP the Army from using the road? We'll send 'em back home with their Euro-statist tails between their legs!

46 posted on 06/16/2006 10:59:13 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Why would Mexicans want to move to Duluth ?

The weather, perhaps?

47 posted on 06/16/2006 10:59:45 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: Rakkasan1

I don't think most Mexicans know about snow shovels...


48 posted on 06/16/2006 10:59:52 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: E.G.C.

bump.


49 posted on 06/16/2006 11:00:01 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Indeed. They won't really need the swimwear unless they they head for the Northwest Corner. The beaches there are so nice...at least until the mutant mosquitos carry you off.


50 posted on 06/16/2006 11:00:36 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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