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A Murtha crapshoot?
The Tribune-Democrat ^ | 6/15/06 | Unknown

Posted on 06/16/2006 4:36:30 PM PDT by Coop

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Murtha said his stature in defense, and especially his ongoing battle with President Bush and top Republicans over the war in Iraq, makes him a strong candidate for the House leadership role.

“So much on the national level right now is related to defense that it is a logical step,” Murtha said. “And what we have to do now is show the public that there will be change.”

Some Republicans see Murtha’s war activism and his push for the high House seat as being divisive in his own party.

The GOP’s position: Keep it up, Jack. A divided Democratic Party is good for all Republicans who are running for national offices.

That may or may not prove true. But this is a fact: The Democrats have not had the House majority since 1994.

Murtha himself must fend off Republican challenger Diana Irey, a Washington County commissioner, to keep his 12th district seat.

An Irey upset in November seems unlikely, but is not impossible – especially considering Murtha’s polarizing stance on Iraq.

It will be interesting to see if Murtha’s early pitch for the majority-leader position has a positive or negative effect on his party’s efforts to regain control of the House, or on his own political standing locally and nationally.

(Excerpt) Read more at tribune-democrat.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 12th; cutandrun; district; iraq; irey; murtha; murthawatch; pennsylvania; traitor; ushouse
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Murtha himself must fend off Republican challenger Diana Irey, a Washington County commissioner, to keep his 12th district seat.

An Irey upset in November seems unlikely, but is not impossible – especially considering Murtha’s polarizing stance on Iraq.

May not sound like a rousing endorsement of her chances, but I'm encouraged that media folks are starting to take notice. What was completely ignored by this author is that Murtha's district only went for Kerry with 51%. That 2-3 points can easily be overcome by the anger Murtha has generated.

Defend your Marine Corps and fight back against Jack Murtha.

www.irey.com

1 posted on 06/16/2006 4:36:33 PM PDT by Coop
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; acsrp38; angcat; armydawg1; AuH2ORepublican; b4its2late; bboop; bert; ...

Ping


2 posted on 06/16/2006 4:37:28 PM PDT by Coop (Jack Murtha - Semper Treasonous)
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To: Coop

I think he's from blue collar coal country in West Pa. Those folks are usually good old red blooded patriots who may be tired of Jack's bloviating.It would be wonderful in Irey beat him. She is also much easier to look at.


3 posted on 06/16/2006 4:39:57 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Coop
Bump & Dump Murtha!

http://Vets4Irey.com

4 posted on 06/16/2006 4:41:16 PM PDT by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! NOW.... PLEASE STAY THE COURSE!)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
I think he's from blue collar coal country in West Pa. Those folks are usually good old red blooded patriots

Then how did he get elected?

5 posted on 06/16/2006 4:44:03 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Coop

She's a very attractive candidate. What kind of a chance does she have if things keep improving and looking better for the good guys in Nov?


6 posted on 06/16/2006 4:45:03 PM PDT by TatieBug
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To: Coop

Knocking off Murtha would be sweet.


7 posted on 06/16/2006 4:45:09 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: lexington minuteman 1775; TatieBug; Cobra64
Yes, his district is south and east of Pittsburgh.

Everyone, please FReepmail me if you'd like on or off the Irey/Murtha ping list.

8 posted on 06/16/2006 4:45:48 PM PDT by Coop (Jack Murtha - Semper Treasonous)
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To: Coop

Not sure where I saw it, but, "Run For The Back Jack" will be on at least one of the Sunday morning "news" shows.

Probably more than one. As the elections near and his level of panic rises, I'm sure he'll be a Sunday morning regular.


9 posted on 06/16/2006 4:46:46 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
I think he's from blue collar coal country in West Pa. Those folks are usually good old red blooded patriots

Then how did he get elected?

10 posted on 06/16/2006 4:46:48 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Coop

11 posted on 06/16/2006 4:48:47 PM PDT by Bommer (Attention illegals: Why don't you do the jobs we can't do? Like fix your own countries problems!)
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To: Coop

"I'm encouraged that media folks are starting to take notice."

Absolutely, the more the media get her name in front of the people of the 12th District, the better her chances.

http://www.irey.com/


12 posted on 06/16/2006 4:50:26 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: Coop

I live in Murtha's home base, and seeing Murtha go down would be a pleasure. But it isn't going to happen.


13 posted on 06/16/2006 4:52:37 PM PDT by Despot of the Delta ("Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience")
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To: Cobra64

Those folks are good old die hard union members; that's how.


14 posted on 06/16/2006 4:53:41 PM PDT by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: Cobra64

He probably got elected because those folks have voted Democrat since FDR, and have not realized the Democrat party they knew, has left them?


15 posted on 06/16/2006 4:54:00 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Coop; smoothsailing; W04Man; CMS; The Sailor; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; ...
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Murtha sides up with Code Pink

Code Pink has given $650,000 to the terrorists in Fallujah, participated in war crimes tribunals against America and has called American soldiers "killers" on their website among many treasonous actions. They display signs like "Maimed for a Lie" at Walter Reed Army Medical Center where wounded troops are healing.
Text of Code Pink's statement on meeting Rep. Murtha:
Thank You Congressman Murtha! CODEPINK co-founder Gael Murphy and DC coordinator Allison Yorra met with Congressman Murtha to thank him for his courageous stand on Iraq. We presented him with our pink badge of courage and pink flowers sent by CODEPINK members nationwide.


Murtha's "Cut & Run" Comments on Iraq:

"there's no progress at all"

"it's worse than it was prewar"

"we should immediatley redeploy"

"War cannot be won on the ground"

"I have said it's a civil war"

"We cannot win this militarily. Our tactics themselves keep us from winning,"

Murtha's Comments on our Troops:

"Would you join (the military) today?," he was asked in an interview. "No," replied Murtha

"And I think you're saying the average guy out there who's considering recruitment is justified in saying 'I don't want to serve'," the interviewer continued. "Exactly right," said Murtha

"we have become a catalyst for violence" in Iraq

Marines "killed innocent civilians in cold blood." at Haditha

"I will not excuse murder, and this is what happened"

"This is worse than Abu Ghraib"

"Hopefully, this is an isolated incident. But we're supposed to be selling ideas of America, ideals of America, and we're losing that war."

"These kind of things have to be brought out immediately," he told "This Week," "because if the Marines got away with it, other Marines might think it's okay."

"What they're saying to me is we're stretching the military too thin. The army is broken, and we couldn't deploy to a second front if we wanted to."

"The troops don't know what to do. They don't have the direction they need in order to supervise the prisoners,"


16 posted on 06/16/2006 4:57:07 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Support the troops by exposing the threats to them like hanoi kerry, cut and run murtha, Code Pink,)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

You're right we're red-blooded patriots. I, unfortunately, am one of Murtha's constituents. An acquaintance of mine is the wife of Murtha's field representative in my hometown. I asked her the other day if she'd seen "Flight 93." Her response was no, that she would be too upset, that she had never seen "Schindler's List" either for the same reason--because she might cry throughout the movie. She also told me once the only novels she reads are ones with happy endings.

I think this attitude typifies the kind of people who support Murtha's approach. Hide from harsh reality, bug out, cut and run. Maybe the bad people will just go away if we pretend they're not there. I almost called this woman a wimp to her face, but I bit my tongue. I hope western PA people are getting sick of Murtha's constant whining and hysterical outbursts. In my mind, he's becoming a joke. And I can't believe western Pennsylvanians want to be represented by a defeatist and a laughingstock.


17 posted on 06/16/2006 4:58:46 PM PDT by WestSylvanian
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
He probably got elected because those folks have voted Democrat since FDR, and have not realized the Democrat party they knew, has left them?

Ding, Ding!!!!!! We have a winner. That's the nuts and bolts of it, plus all the defense contracts he brings in.

18 posted on 06/16/2006 4:59:33 PM PDT by Despot of the Delta ("Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience")
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

That's so disgusting on so many levels. Ugh!


19 posted on 06/16/2006 4:59:59 PM PDT by StarCMC ("The word of muslims will never, ever override what our U.S. Marines say." - TheCrusader)
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To: Despot of the Delta

Hopefully you are wrong.


20 posted on 06/16/2006 5:01:45 PM PDT by StarCMC ("The word of muslims will never, ever override what our U.S. Marines say." - TheCrusader)
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To: Coop; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

My thanks to you both.

I find the mere fact that he hasn't been
run out of town on a rail fascinating.

Maybe this time...

Irey bump!


21 posted on 06/16/2006 5:02:38 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Despot of the Delta

I hope you're wrong like a lot of people were wrong about Tom Daschle.


22 posted on 06/16/2006 5:04:20 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Good job Tonk!!!


23 posted on 06/16/2006 5:04:58 PM PDT by tubebender (Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

I read that, and I see red.

Amazing that such traitorous comments comne out of the mouth of a former Marine.

And I say former on purpose. He has become semper infidelis.


24 posted on 06/16/2006 5:05:35 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Coop
This worthless POS is proud that he "advised both President Reagan to CUT AND RETREAT from Beirut and President Clinton to CUT AND RETREAT from Somalia". This garbage is worthless for our Country. Eat Sh*t and get Diarrhea hump head.
25 posted on 06/16/2006 5:07:58 PM PDT by fedupjohn (If we try to fight the war on terror with eyes shut + ears packed with wax, innocent people will die)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Heh -- I have seen some Marines on this board calling him and "EX-Marine" -- it fits doesn't it??

semper infidelis -- LOL!!!!


26 posted on 06/16/2006 5:09:44 PM PDT by StarCMC ("The word of muslims will never, ever override what our U.S. Marines say." - TheCrusader)
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To: jazusamo

They've been voting for the man for 30 yrs and that isn't going to change. One BIG factor here they despise any kind of change. They still live in the 50's 60's and 70's here.


27 posted on 06/16/2006 5:11:15 PM PDT by Despot of the Delta ("Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience")
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To: Coop

You Diana Irey folks need to get Congresswoman Jean Schmidt a few apologies from some other conservatives.

She had Murtha pegged from the beginning; she coined the "cut and run" line about him; she called the dems exactly by the numbers.....and then she got hung out to dry.

Female candidate Irey needs to conference with Jean Schmidt.


28 posted on 06/16/2006 5:35:19 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: StarCMC

He has become the Antimarine.


29 posted on 06/16/2006 5:42:15 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Good. The more he flaps his jaw, the more he shows his true (ugly) colors. It can only help the Irey campaign.


30 posted on 06/16/2006 5:49:31 PM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Bommer

You forgot one.

31 posted on 06/16/2006 5:50:05 PM PDT by oyez (Appeasement is insanity)
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To: MizSterious

Yeah, until they figure it out, they're their own worst enemy.


32 posted on 06/16/2006 5:55:56 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping, Tonk.

Makes me wish I could vote in Mrs. Irey's district.

I can't do that, but I can send some more money to her, and I will!


33 posted on 06/16/2006 5:57:23 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Despot of the Delta
I live in Murtha's home base, and seeing Murtha go down would be a pleasure. But it isn't going to happen.

Based on your comment, I'd say I know more about your district than you do. But thanks for the input.

Perhaps later you'll decide to be a part of the solution instead of, well, you know...

34 posted on 06/16/2006 6:07:45 PM PDT by Coop (Jack Murtha - Semper Treasonous)
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To: Cobra64
Then how did he get elected?

Becahse it was over three decades ago. And he's pro life and used to be pro military. He's lurched left considerably the past few years.

35 posted on 06/16/2006 6:09:00 PM PDT by Coop (Jack Murtha - Semper Treasonous)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; StarCMC

Former Marine is the correct term for regular veterans. Murtha is an EX-Marine like Lee H. Oswald or Clayton Lonetree.


36 posted on 06/16/2006 6:11:14 PM PDT by Coop (Jack Murtha - Semper Treasonous)
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To: Despot of the Delta
One BIG factor here they despise any kind of change. They still live in the 50's 60's and 70's here.

Bush took 49% of your district supposedly still living in past decades.

37 posted on 06/16/2006 6:12:32 PM PDT by Coop (Jack Murtha - Semper Treasonous)
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To: xzins
She had Murtha pegged from the beginning; she coined the "cut and run" line about him; she called the dems exactly by the numbers.....and then she got hung out to dry.

She was simply reading a letter from a Marine (I think one of her constituents).

38 posted on 06/16/2006 6:13:30 PM PDT by Coop (Jack Murtha - Semper Treasonous)
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To: StarCMC

Whether Rep. Murtha’s understanding of the Haditha incident is spurious or not, leaking information about the investigation from his committee sources or others, and providing accompanying graphic oratory, demonstrates a sense of fulfillment for him. Regardless of investigation findings, he has constructed a theatrical prop to advance his agenda that our military of failed individuals is failing in prosecuting the “Three Block War” in Iraq. If the allegations are proven, they represent symptomatic behavior, and if false, then a shameful cover up has occurred.

Any current or former Marine experiences deep sorrow for what might be a family tragedy. It is so difficult to maintain values of courage, honor, and commitment against the continuous, invasive influence of a civilian world wholly dedicated to self. The proper response would have been expressions of compassion and prayer for those who might have failed and those who might have died needlessly.



Rep. Murtha’s actions validate his credentials to be considered an ex-Marine.


39 posted on 06/16/2006 6:14:39 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Coop

Danny Bubp...one of our area state legislators.

Who then went mum on her along with the rest of the conservative movement.

But everyone uses "cut and run."

BTW, she won against a newly returned Iraqi vet.


40 posted on 06/16/2006 6:17:39 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: Coop
Perhaps later you'll decide to be a part of the solution instead of, well, you know...
 

When I'm done with grad school I will take care of the problem. And Mr. Know-It-All, maybe if you came and spent sometime in Johnstown you might get a firm pragmatic and realistic view of just how it is here.

41 posted on 06/16/2006 6:18:32 PM PDT by Despot of the Delta ("Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience")
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To: Despot of the Delta
Been there already, thanks. (PA-12 and grad school)

I don't know it all, not by a longshot. But I know more about this race than you do. By a longshot.

42 posted on 06/16/2006 6:22:00 PM PDT by Coop (Jack Murtha - Semper Treasonous)
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To: xzins

I'm not sure I'm following you. This state legislator, he's the Marine who sent her the letter she read, yes?


43 posted on 06/16/2006 6:22:56 PM PDT by Coop (Jack Murtha - Semper Treasonous)
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To: Coop

Correct.

He's a Col. in the Marine Reserve (a Lawyer.) But when she went public, he went mum. In his defense, he might not have given her leave to read to private letter. On the other hand, he might have "cut and run."


44 posted on 06/16/2006 6:27:28 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: Coop

It's all about jobs here and Murtha brings the big defense pork barrel bacon. Now I'm not in tune with Washington, Greene, and Fayette counties, but Westmorland, Somerset, Cambria, Indiana, and Armstrong are pretty much Murtha.


45 posted on 06/16/2006 6:29:03 PM PDT by Despot of the Delta ("Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience")
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To: Coop
A note to those who think Murtha is undefeatable (not you Coop): one thing to keep in mind that although Murtha has been in Congress forever, he has NEVER faced competent or well-funded opposition. Sure, he's fit his district well - in the past - but Republicans have literally never seriously contested the 12th District during Murtha's tenure, until now.

There is no chance that Diana Irey will raise or spend even 20% as much as Mad Jack this time around, but Irey IS spending enough to get her message out, and every time the traitorous scumbag opens his mouth, it counts as more free advertising for Irey.

In politics, spending a lot of dough doesn't guarantee success, but NOT spending it guarantees failure. Irey's hopefully got enough - and will get more - and will be hammering away from now until November.

46 posted on 06/16/2006 6:48:58 PM PDT by PermaRag
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To: Coop

There you go. Ex then is for one who repudiates, who decides to be infidelis.

Murtha the Ex-marine infidel. If the shoe fits...


47 posted on 06/16/2006 6:50:46 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Coop

Judging from his appearance, murtha may not be a problem too much longer, re-elected or not. Not that I'm wishing anything bad on him, but nobody lives forever.


48 posted on 06/16/2006 6:55:10 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Coop
A Murtha crapshoot?

Jack Murtha engages in a crapshoot every time he opens his mouth.

49 posted on 06/16/2006 6:57:24 PM PDT by RichInOC (...I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I just couldn't resist.)
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To: Coop
The only consolation should the majority of the population go over the edge and put these people in control of national security is the reality that tens of millions of citizens in blue cities will summarily be atomized before their leaders can apologize to those who detonate the bombs.
50 posted on 06/16/2006 7:04:30 PM PDT by mmercier (so it goes)
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