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Wealthy couples head to U.S. to pick baby's sex (MEGA BARF ALERT)
MSNBC ^ | 06/14/2006 | AP

Posted on 06/17/2006 4:12:36 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

The Chinese want boys, and the Canadians want girls. If they have enough money, they come to the United States to choose the sex of their babies.

Well-off foreign couples are getting around laws banning sex selection in their home countries by coming to American soil — where it's legal — for medical procedures that can give them the boy, or girl, they want.

"Some people spend $50,000 to $70,000 for a BMW car and think nothing of it, but this is a life that's going to be with us forever," said Robert, an Australian who asked that his last name not be used to protect the family's privacy.

He and his wife, Joanna, have two boys. Now they want a girl. Australia only allows gender selection of embryos to avoid an inherited disease.

The United States' lack of regulation means a growing global market for a few fertility clinics. These businesses advertise in airline magazines or post Web sites aimed at luring clients worldwide.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: baby; canada; china; designerbabies; ew; homosexualagenda; ick; ivf; moralabsolutes; omg; sexselection; sickandwrong; weird; wha; yuck
Oh my God...choosing who the child will be before he (or she) is even born. Choosing what kind of child gets to BE born. Eliminating potential 'weirdness' (aka, the unique characteristics that makes everyone unique).

The world is going down the crapper even faster.

1 posted on 06/17/2006 4:12:44 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
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To: DBeers; little jeremiah; mhking; Jim Robinson; darkangel82; Victoria Delsoul; Allegra; fanfan; ...

Moral Absolutes/Canada/OMG ping.


2 posted on 06/17/2006 4:14:04 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Conservatives teach you how to fish. Liberals give you the fish by stealing it from the fisherman.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

One company in Northern VA will only permit the sex section if and only if the couple has one baby of a opposite sex.


3 posted on 06/17/2006 4:15:00 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: DBeers; little jeremiah; mhking; Jim Robinson; darkangel82; Victoria Delsoul; Allegra; fanfan; ...

Moral Absolutes/Canada/OMG ping.


4 posted on 06/17/2006 4:15:21 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Conservatives teach you how to fish. Liberals give you the fish by stealing it from the fisherman.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

You said it.


5 posted on 06/17/2006 4:15:31 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

So which list am I on? Moral Absolutes, Canada, or OMG?
Seriously though, this is sick and unreal.


6 posted on 06/17/2006 4:17:30 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

7 posted on 06/17/2006 4:17:59 PM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: darkangel82

I just said OMG to get my general feeling across to those I was pinging. It's not necessarily a ping list.

But you know...the first thing that came to mind when reading this was Nazi Germany. You know, their euthanization of the elderly and the sick?

This 'prebirth sex change' parallels that situation IMO, for some reason. Anybody else thinking that?


9 posted on 06/17/2006 4:22:35 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Conservatives teach you how to fish. Liberals give you the fish by stealing it from the fisherman.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
American soil — where it's legal

Sorry, but I disagree. If a couple really have their heart set on a boy or a girl, and they have the $$ to make their dream come true, fine by me.

10 posted on 06/17/2006 4:27:18 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,406+ snide replies and counting!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I was just being a smart a** to try and bring some humor to a very serious thread, but I agree, that's exactly what I was thinking.


11 posted on 06/17/2006 4:27:34 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Just killing the babies the rest of the world doesn't want to kill.


12 posted on 06/17/2006 4:57:55 PM PDT by MrEdd (I would have gotten away with it too - if it weren't for those meddling kids and their stupid dog.)
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To: Aikona
Roughly equal number of males and females is necessary for social stability.

Huh? What about the decline in male population during and after a war? Is your statement based upon any evidence or did you just make it up?

13 posted on 06/17/2006 5:02:47 PM PDT by opinionator
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

So why is this an issue with (p)MSNBC? If the couple wanted to come to the US to have an abortion, they would be hailed as heroes!

Yet another indication of the MSM's pro-death bias.


14 posted on 06/17/2006 5:03:54 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

From what I have read, gender selection is ONLY available in the US for couples who already have a child of one gender and for inherited genetic disorders.

You can't just go and say you want a boy or a girl for your first child. The purpose is for family balancing.

I don't see what the problem is if a couple already has several of one gender and wants to complete their family with a child of the other gender. As long as no embyros are destroyed.


15 posted on 06/17/2006 5:16:49 PM PDT by Reddy (America, Bless God!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Oh my God...choosing who the child will be before he (or she) is even born.

I think this is a good thing IMHO.

16 posted on 06/17/2006 5:23:45 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Aikona

Oh, Geez... that's all we need.

Chinese jihadists.


17 posted on 06/17/2006 5:40:09 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: Aikona
"Young males without the possibility to find a mate are a volatile group of people, to say the least."

Not that our dear allies could *POSSIBLY* be planning any adventures in which a few hundred million units of unwed/never to be wed cannon fodder could be useful.... /sarc
18 posted on 06/17/2006 5:46:24 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA.)
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To: Aikona

They just need to go to Canada where apparently all the women will be ;^)


19 posted on 06/17/2006 5:55:27 PM PDT by visualops (If you build it... www.visualops.com ...they won't come. Build the fence!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
People will be less alarmed as sex selection becomes more routine

of course- people used to be shocked at all sorts of things that are commonplace and accepted nowadays.

The client decides whether unused embryos will be frozen, donated for research or destroyed.

Hmmm. More "extra" embryos. Be sure and don't call them babies.

...you're getting a doctor to mix it together and put it back in. ... We're not messing around with God the creator.

Not exactly.
20 posted on 06/17/2006 6:00:10 PM PDT by visualops (If you build it... www.visualops.com ...they won't come. Build the fence!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Who put the "homosexual agenda" keyword? That sort of stuff messes up the keyword searches.


21 posted on 06/17/2006 6:01:06 PM PDT by visualops (If you build it... www.visualops.com ...they won't come. Build the fence!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Cheapening of Life continues. What kind of a man wants their child to be conceived via a test tube anyway (assuming there are no fertility problems that make it necessary)?


22 posted on 06/17/2006 6:13:37 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

If people were sorting out gay gened babies, I guarantee the media take on this would be totally different.


24 posted on 06/17/2006 6:56:42 PM PDT by lonestar67
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To: visualops

*raises hand*


25 posted on 06/17/2006 6:57:22 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Conservatives teach you how to fish. Liberals give you the fish by stealing it from the fisherman.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Hitler dreamed of things like this.

What sick, Godless world. This is what too much money can do to people......


26 posted on 06/17/2006 7:13:40 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Americans need to remember Osama's "strong horse" -"weak horse" analogy. Let's stop acting weak.)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch; Spinsharp

Ping.


27 posted on 06/17/2006 7:15:00 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Conservatives teach you how to fish. Liberals give you the fish by stealing it from the fisherman.)
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To: Aikona
Young males without the possibility to find a mate are a volatile group of people, to say the least.

Young males are a a volatile group of people to begin with.

28 posted on 06/17/2006 7:17:21 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

lol


29 posted on 06/17/2006 7:22:40 PM PDT by visualops (If you build it... www.visualops.com ...they won't come. Build the fence!)
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To: Aikona
Young males without the possibility to find a mate are a volatile group of people, to say the least

I know that I would be pissed.

30 posted on 06/17/2006 7:35:16 PM PDT by SIDENET (I like liberals...they taste like CHICKEN.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

The people running these fertility clinics are reactionary scum, and should bne sued for hate crimes.

Imagine, in this day and age, claiming to offer "sex selection", and only giving two choices.


31 posted on 06/17/2006 9:29:25 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
What's wrong with parents wanting to choose the gender of their children? I went to the webside of The Fertility Institutes, the company mentioned in the article, and they are offering 99.99% accurate gender selection for only $18.5 thousand. That's a pretty reasonable price for an almost certain outcome.

If parents want to balance their families, and are willing to pay the several hundred thousand dollars it takes these days to raise a child through college, then the cost of gender selection constitutes a small fraction of that total cost.

32 posted on 06/17/2006 10:39:34 PM PDT by dpwiener
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To: Reddy

I have three sons. I don't see the problem with choosing to have a daughter next. Or vice versa. It's OK by me if it's for family balancing.


33 posted on 06/17/2006 10:42:09 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Yes, but it won't stop there. First, it's gender. Then hair and eye color....then what? Custom made babies just sounds like a sick idea to me. I have three boys also and I'm so thankful for what God blessed me with. I would have loved to have a girl but don't feel an obsessive need to have one. My family is complete with my beautiful boys!


34 posted on 06/18/2006 12:32:06 AM PDT by derllak
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; ...
Thanks for the ping Ultra Sonic 007.

Canada ping!

Please FReepmail me to get on or off this Canada ping list.

35 posted on 06/18/2006 4:25:23 AM PDT by fanfan (I wouldn't be so angry with them if they didn't want to kill me!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; wagglebee
FYI: wagglebee is now handling the Moral Absolutes Ping List.

:-)

36 posted on 06/18/2006 11:58:18 AM PDT by DBeers ()
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MORAL ABSOLUTES PING

DISCUSSION ABOUT:

Wealthy couples head to U.S. to pick baby's sex

Soon we will be at a point where the eugenicists are killing dozens of embryos for every birth.

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To be included in or removed from the MORAL ABSOLUTES PINGLIST, please FReepMail wagglebee.

37 posted on 06/18/2006 12:04:27 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

I think this particular article is only sick in terms of the fact that the clinic is fertilizing multiple eggs and then "weeding out" the non-keepers. THAT is sad and sick. However, I don't see anything regarding the practice of filtering only the semen to eliminate the unwanted gender and *then* fertilizing the egg (as we all know, only the semen determines gender and the egg is neutral until fertilized).

As the proud mother of 3 boys with baby boy # 4 due to arrive tomorrow, I would absolutely pay $15-20,000 to "buy" a girl next time around (although, physically, I don't think I can do a next time). The heartache and sadness I felt when finding out my new baby was not a girl was horrible. I will always love & adore all of my sons, but I will forever grieve at the loss of a mother/daughter relationship and all that entails. BUT, if given the choice of "tossing" unwanted boy embryos were the only way to get a girl, forget about it! The boys can be filtered at the sperm stage and that's how it should be done (although I'm sure the level of accuracy isn't quite as great).

This is definitely a case of needing to walk a mile in their shoes to understand completely.


38 posted on 06/19/2006 1:09:09 PM PDT by Capagrl (Never argue with stupid people; they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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