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1993: Murtha Called For Retreat from Somalia on House Floor!
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Posted on 06/17/2006 11:32:39 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear

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1 posted on 06/17/2006 11:32:43 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Successful Attack against US forces - pull out of Beirut. Rep Murtha called for it.

Successful Attack against US forces - pull out of Somalia. Rep Murtha called for it.
2 posted on 06/17/2006 11:33:43 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!
4 posted on 06/17/2006 11:34:55 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Texasforever

Best line of the day!


5 posted on 06/17/2006 11:35:23 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Coop; freema; Just A Nobody; smoothsailing; 2111USMC; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; ...

Murtha PING!


6 posted on 06/17/2006 11:35:29 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Murtha F'r bump


7 posted on 06/17/2006 11:36:53 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: TexasTransplant; Texasforever

Seconded!


8 posted on 06/17/2006 11:42:07 PM PDT by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Can we get us a Captn. Jack Tatoo?


9 posted on 06/17/2006 11:42:24 PM PDT by JOE6PAK (FAKE, but ACCURATE!)
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To: Texasforever

I think he might have tried but screwed it up.


10 posted on 06/17/2006 11:45:08 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: Texasforever

ROFLMAO


11 posted on 06/17/2006 11:45:30 PM PDT by MJY1288 (THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
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To: Texasforever


OMG!
ROTFLOL!


12 posted on 06/17/2006 11:47:24 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: onyx
I'm a baaad boy again.
13 posted on 06/17/2006 11:48:05 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Coop




Diana just hit the jackpot.


14 posted on 06/17/2006 11:48:32 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Texasforever


Ha ha ha ha ha.
Yes, and it's just the way I love you most.


15 posted on 06/17/2006 11:49:19 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: onyx


16 posted on 06/17/2006 11:52:25 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever



LOL! Exactly!


17 posted on 06/17/2006 11:53:35 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Texasforever

LMAO


18 posted on 06/17/2006 11:54:30 PM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

These people need to be purged. But the electorate is too stupid to figure it out.


19 posted on 06/17/2006 11:59:35 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Ole "Cut and Run" Murtha is a consistent advocate for defeat, if he's anything.


20 posted on 06/18/2006 12:02:44 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Doin' A Murtha



21 posted on 06/18/2006 12:05:09 AM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: Texasforever

He didn't, and we're stuck with Murtha Sr.'s "quagmire."


22 posted on 06/18/2006 12:06:28 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
MURTHA URGED SOMALIA PULLOUT IN 1993

NewsMax broke this story back on 11/21/2005.

Sorry, Sweetness and Light.

23 posted on 06/18/2006 12:07:27 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: DTogo
Murtha could change my views on late term abortion.
24 posted on 06/18/2006 12:07:32 AM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Murtha is a woosy.


25 posted on 06/18/2006 12:11:21 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Texasforever

74 years later?


26 posted on 06/18/2006 12:13:37 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DTogo

No time is better than the present.

Don't put off till tomorrow what you can do today.


27 posted on 06/18/2006 12:29:05 AM PDT by TheZMan (Proud supporter of the anti-conservopussy movement.)
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To: Texasforever

judging the outcome...no pun...it did'na amount to two jabs and a side-shuffle...


29 posted on 06/18/2006 2:42:09 AM PDT by Gunny P (Gunny P)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

ping


30 posted on 06/18/2006 3:17:12 AM PDT by Cruz
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Where were all the "do-nothing while in office, then whine, blame others democrats" during Kosovo and Somalia???


31 posted on 06/18/2006 3:18:11 AM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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To: Texasforever

Ding ding ding! We have a winner! LOL!


32 posted on 06/18/2006 3:37:57 AM PDT by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out...)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

MURTHA URGED SOMALIA PULLOUT IN 1993

NewsMax broke this story back on 11/21/2005.

Sorry, Sweetness and Light.

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Huh? I'd say Murtha broke the story when he spoke from the floor of the House and then bragged about his influence elsewhere.

(BTW, NewsMax never mentioned Murtha's House speech, just his TV appearances. So you're not even factual correct.)

But apart from that, if you'd click on the link and actually read the story cited, you will find that it is about the 9/11 Commission report, which cites both the pullbacks from Beirut and Somalia as inspiration for al Qaeda. Which are the two very events Murtha wants to replicate.

Sheesh.

And even if I did steal a NewsMax story, which I didn't, it would be only fair turnabout. They have been stealing my stuff without attribution for years. As has WND.

But thanks for your uninformed smear.


33 posted on 06/18/2006 3:50:35 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Murtha is a woosy.

No ... no ... Murtha is a former Marine and war hero. He's been a hawk on military issues up till now ... that's why his 'cut & run' strategy where Iraq is concerned has such validity. You can find out all about it in the NY Times, Washington Post, LA Times, at NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN ... check it out.

34 posted on 06/18/2006 3:52:51 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: onyx

This is Hugh!


35 posted on 06/18/2006 3:57:22 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Minus_The_Bear

I Murtha French?...doesn't he ever want to take a stand and fight......God help us all if they regain power..


36 posted on 06/18/2006 4:04:41 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
But, but BUT. Bush the Elder sent troops to Somalia to provide security for a UN Humanitarian mission to deliver aid to STARVING Somalians. According to The Media, it was a Crisis of Epidemic Proportion, a famine because of Drought and Something MUST Be Done. The fact that a civil war was raging & was as much, or more, a contributing factor to starvation as the dry spell got lost or glossed over in the orchestrated whine to Do Something.

Predictably, the humanitarian 'aid' resulted in being a fresh, new supply of freebie goods for budding black market, Uzi/ AK-47-toting entrepreneurs...so the 'aid' ended up, again, predictably, further contributing to The Crisis. 1993, being in one of my 'don't give a damn' decades, I didn't think the US should have contributed troops to the UN/ Somalia in the first place.
37 posted on 06/18/2006 4:17:08 AM PDT by elli1
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

Hugh who?


38 posted on 06/18/2006 4:20:35 AM PDT by thile44 (Simplicity is too complex.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Sam Hill; Minus_The_Bear; All
Sorry, Sweetness and Light.

No apologies necessary. . .S&L credits their posting from National Reveiw blog.

EEE / Am most appreciative for this posting 'reminder' from SamHill- no matter it's source/date. The more this is shared; the better. . .

This IS a critically important message. . .and which apparently from the silence of Repubs - has all but been forgotten (?) - as has been a post-mortem warning in the 9/11 report that America's pullout from Somalia galvanized Al Qaeda for it's mission to destroy/conquer America; so as to establish our country as a Muslim nation.

(that seems to be lost in conversation as well. . .because it lacks a politically correct slant?)

from S&L as well:

[The author, Stephen Spruiell, goes on to cite the Frontline story "Hunting Bin Laden" to demonstrate how the pullout of Somalia may have inspired Bin Laden.

But we don’t need to take PBS’s word for it. We have the official bi-partisan 9/11 Commission’s Report:. . .]

Repubs need to begin a drumbeat here. . .challenge with the truth EVERY conversation by Murtha. . .Kennedy...Kerry... and Demrats, et al as they whine/demigogue, for our withdrawal from Iraq.

These Demrats/Libs. ..need to be challenged as to what this short history tells us about Military strategy being decided by non-altruistic, politically insecure; self-serving and short-sighted politicians. . .

. . .and what it portends for our Country (and 'ergo' the world-at-large) for America to pretend to victory; while embracing 'weakness' and defeat as per Clinton's critical decision for withdrawal in Somalia - a strategy they would-if-they-could repeat for Iraq - and a disastrous, typical-Democrat. . .group-think decision that gave rise and realization to our 9/11.

Our Repubs need. . .can. . .serve our Country better; by reminding/educating at every opportunity, the truth beyond the Muslim hatred - i.e. how that hatred translates to their vision of a Muslim America.

Liberals never tire of whining 'Americans do not understand, 'WHY' we are in Iraq. . . Typical Liberal arrogance.

That said, we do need to expand the dialogue. . .

39 posted on 06/18/2006 5:01:44 AM PDT by cricket
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To: cricket

What gives the aBhole Murtha his credibility? Is it only due to his Viet Nam service? This guy should get NO print inches at all. What a d*ck!


40 posted on 06/18/2006 5:05:10 AM PDT by szweig
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41 posted on 06/18/2006 5:07:30 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

BTTT


42 posted on 06/18/2006 5:19:49 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Murtha must be of French ancestry. He is always in favor of surrendering.


43 posted on 06/18/2006 5:35:24 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal (8)
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To: cricket

FWIW, here is the S&L article posted here at FR:

9/11 Commission: Somalia Retreat Inspired Bin Laden -- Beirut, Too
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1651168/posts


44 posted on 06/18/2006 5:41:36 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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Ping


45 posted on 06/18/2006 6:51:17 AM PDT by Coop (Jack Murtha - Semper Treasonous)
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Thanks for the link. . .:^)

.I do hope some Washington Beltway Repubs are tuning in; because while this may be partly 'old news' it is a history that Demrats are desperate to re-write.

And as history goes for many of us; and certainly moreso 'out there'. ..a truth obscurred easily as the 'new' piles in. . .and on.

These 'facts' do need to be framed in a offense/defense to Murtha and every Lib Demrat who want only to drum up 'fear and loathing' for this war effort.

. . .and a 'thanks' as well, to Minus-the-Bear for giving it Freeper attention.

46 posted on 06/18/2006 6:57:41 AM PDT by cricket
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To: Coop

And look what the pull out from Somalia brought us. Osama bin Laden says in one of his videotapes that it proved Americans were paper tigers and couldn't handle body bags (paraphrase).

And now Somalia is a worse mess than ever.

Thanks, Murtha. You may well have influenced American policy in a way that directly led to 3,000 deaths.


47 posted on 06/18/2006 6:57:58 AM PDT by Peach (Iraq/AlQaeda relationship http://markeichenlaub.blogspot.com/2006/06/strategic-relationship-between.)
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To: Coop

And I'd like to correct what I just wrote.

We keep talking about 3,000 deaths. But it's been much more since we entered a war to defend ourselves.


48 posted on 06/18/2006 6:58:31 AM PDT by Peach (Iraq/AlQaeda relationship http://markeichenlaub.blogspot.com/2006/06/strategic-relationship-between.)
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To: Coop
Bump & Dump! http://Vets4Irey.com
49 posted on 06/18/2006 7:04:56 AM PDT by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! NOW.... PLEASE STAY THE COURSE!)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

THIS IS THE 2006 ELECTION WINNER.

Commercial: John Murtha bravely served his nation. He was a Marina, yada yada.

Then....Somalia 1993, American soldiers' bodies dragged through the streets. Then flash to his pullout speech, then cut to OBL's reaction.

Just b/c he was a hero 30yrs ago, doesn't mean he's right today. He was wrong in 1993, he was wrong in 2005, and he's wrong today. If we listened to him, Al Z might still be alive.

Don't repeat the mistakes of the past.


50 posted on 06/18/2006 7:04:59 AM PDT by Explorer24 (DNC: Do Not Capitulate, Do Not vote Dem.)
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