Posted on 06/18/2006 5:50:31 AM PDT by Valin
I would have to be willing to take a $25,000 pay cut each year. He tried to sweeten the deal by offering my younger daughter reduced tuition, but I reminded him that he had offered her a free tuition two years ago and we had said thanks but no thanks then (my daughter considered their AP and math offerings to be significantly below those of the public school.)
But here's the wild part, he wanted to know if my assistant that I've worked with for over 5 years would be interested in the position!! He was unconcerned that she did not hold a degree. I kind of chuckled and told him she was a free and independent person and if he had her number give her a ring. So I guess he did because she just called me and told me he offered her the same position for $8k less than he offered me. The salary he offered her was actually 2k less than she earns now as a public school assistant.
Interesting huh?
Exactly my point. But there are certain ones that don't want people to have any say in it, but to still take the money.
Tuition for my daughter at the local Catholic high school would run me about $6000 per year. If I can deduct that tuition it would reduce my state income tax by about $360. If you can't afford the tuition without the tax deduction then it's doubtful that you could with it.
The long and the short is that when people talk about tuition vouchers, they're talking about a state subsidy of private schools. And if the state gets into the job of subsidizing private schools then they should have a say in how they are run. And given that say then how long before private schools have many of the same problems public shools have?
Whoa, interesting. People here like to say that the private schools have higher salaries, but they don't--I checked into a private school once and they offered $11 an hour for experienced teachers. They hire mostly college students to teach--my sister taught there for a few years. I don't think teacher salaries will go up dramatically any time soon. Also, the retirement benefits will go down (out of necessity for part of it). We had a LOT of teachers retire this year and now prospective teachers can pick and choose their position. All of our new hires in recent years have been great though. I know a couple this year will be great too. It'll be a chance to start fresh for us. Now if only the one die-hard liberal here would....:)
I was just floored that they offered the same position to someone with a 2 year college degree and 5 years assisting.
I only know of one private school among the many that I've checked with offering higher salaries, but their benefits package isn't great (except for the 401K). We had one school here where the teachers didn't get paid for months because some of the operators were skimming money.
I tend to agree with Sam that the "give a damn" factor has decreased in recent years. I'd also suggest that the family structure was stronger at the turn of the century than it has been since the implementation of some of the "Great Society" programs and the "cultural revolution" of the 60s and 70s.
I've also read that in the early part of this century, some of the schools in the immigrant communities were taught in the native language, rather than in English, which I thought was interesting.
I do agree that students in poor schools need strong academics, and it seems that the most successful programs in those areas have a strong academic and a strong disciplinary component.
The people who most need the government schools now probably don't pay taxes to begin with (or a very minimal amount) and wouldn't be able to pay the tuition, even on a sliding scale.
At one point in our history, parents did pay tuition for their children, but so many people couldn't afford it, and their children were not educated.
Some of the private schools in this area offer reduced tuition for the children of teachers, and some offer free tuition for those children.
The pay isn't as high, and the insurance, retirement, & other benefits are pretty well non-existent. The teachers I know who have left public school to teach in the private schools had good benefits through their husband's jobs, and the reduced tuition was a big draw, along with the improved discipline in their students and religious component in the education for their children.
" tend to agree with Sam that the "give a damn" factor has decreased in recent years. I'd also suggest that the family structure was stronger at the turn of the century than it has been since the implementation of some of the "Great Society" programs and the "cultural revolution" of the 60s and 70s" surely this is a result of prosperity, including welfare. But also, the union movement and other changes really changed the attitudes of teachers.
I also spent many years in school and nice collection of letters. Of curse mine started Dear Mr. & Mrs W This is to inform you that Steven was caught......
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Prosperity weakens family structure? Why then are poorer schools more likely to be failing?
I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to say.
But also, the union movement and other changes really changed the attitudes of teachers.
Popular psychology has changed the attitudes of teachers and parents. Punishment and strict discipline declined, and adults have become more concerned about students' rights to "self-expression" and needs for "self-esteem." I don't think any of that has helped.
I don't think it's a simple problem, and I don't think it has one cause. I tend to think there are a number of cultural factors interacting.
I've just switched from "blond moments" to "senior moments."
Oh, yea! I guess we can add "old people" to that list of "Open Season on..."
bald, formerly blond old people season then.
Ah, now that's another subject:
Bald = GOOD!
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Excellent Article. The only way you can successfully teach propaganda is for the instructor to be dumb enough to believe it......
bald is beautiful
None o fmy relatives are bald.
Boolean algebra lesson--Therefore, we are not beautiful.
OOOPS!!! Wait! My great great grandma was bald and had a thick mustache. Her picture scares away future in-laws sometimes.
Thinness and youth are beautiful.
Therefore, fat and age are NOT beautiful.
PFFFFFFTTTTTTHHHHHHHHT!
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Geez, I misspelled moustache.
I think you've been spying on me! I'm the opposite of tall, dark, and handsome--I'm short, light and ugly.
I was talking about ME!!!
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